Donald Trump - GUILTY!

Thankfully this is the end of Trump's chances to become President. People are underestimating how damaging a guilty verdict is with most people especially those not too into politics.

In no way, shape, or form is this the end of his chances to become POTUS.

It should be, and it would be, if the average voter were reasonable, but the average voter is not reasonable.

The average Trump voter is absolutely, positively unhinged and parted with reality long ago; none of this will deter them from voting for Trump in November. All it does is make them double down on Trump because they'll run with the standard delusion that the trial, jury, and judge was rigged against him.

It might sway some fence-sitters in Biden's direction but don't think for a minute that Biden is home dry all of a sudden.
 
Didn't think so. This case has little barring on Trump's chances of becoming president.
I am sure MAGA won't be affected but all others are unlikely to vote for a felon. As I understand, MAGA not enough for Trump to win.
 
It's actually the only case that will have potential impact on the election.

True but my belief is that impact will be very small. If Jan 6th didn't change people's mind this minor case won't have much of an effect.
 
I am sure MAGA won't be affected but all others are unlikely to vote for a felon. As I understand, MAGA not enough for Trump to win.

Sorry but you really don't understand Trump or American politics. Willing to bet as soon as next week there will be fresh polls saying Trump is leading.
 
True but my belief is that impact will be very small. If Jan 6th didn't change people's mind this minor case won't have much of an effect.
One can partially attribute the negation of the predicted 'Red Wave' in '22 to the revulsion & backlash of J6, Trump just didn't happen to be on the ballot that day.
 
Sorry but you really don't understand Trump or American politics. Willing to bet as soon as next week there will be fresh polls saying Trump is leading.
You have been consistently erroneous in your posts today, yet try to claim the intellectual high ground.
 
Your predictions vis a vis how the electorate will parse are somewhat fantasy. You don't seem to understand American politics that well.

I made no predictions, and even I did they wouldn't be in error until after the election. You said I have been "consistently erroneous" today. Please show me an error or retract your statement.
 
Guilty of 34 charges, or in other words, one third of a Manchester City:nervous:

Leaving the electoral speculations aside, isn't it good that the US justice system gave a very subtle but promising hint pointing to nobody being above the law and everyone being able to be convicted, prosecuted and found guilty on all charges?
 
I made no predictions, and even I did they wouldn't be in error until after the election. You said I have been "consistently erroneous" today. Please show me an error or retract your statement.
Your predictive flights of fantasy are there to be read as well as your assessment of someone else for not being up to snuff re: the American political landscape. Take your pick.
 
Your predictive flights of fantasy are there to be read as well as your assessment of someone else for not being up to snuff re: the American political landscape. Take your pick.

Once again please show me an actual error I've made. Should be easy since you said I've been "consistently erroneous"
 
The Democrats have succeeding in making their biggest opponent the most talked about man in the world for the next 6 months
 
Not so sure. Think this galvanises Trump's support base. They'll make a martyr of him and he will win the election by a good margin.
I was referring to the legal process, not how the vote will go. The legal system worked; finally, he’s paying a price for his actions. We will see if he pays a political price.

If someone was truly on the fence, this 34/34 verdict shouldn’t lead him/her to vote for Trump.
 
You think so? I don't know. This might help him because he's playing the victim card.

I guess i tried to banwagon the optimism. But that is why I said "hopefully".

Reallity is that this guy will not see jail, any money that will lose will be paid for his stupid moron Magaloons, he will continue to feck around with impunity and before this veredict, I don't think he had much independents or that they will not vote him. Despite the information that some people would rethink in voting him, I am sure they were saying that "meanwhile". Now they will say "yeah, nah" and vote him anyway. IMO, there is NO person that was about to vote this piece of shit yesterday that will not vote him today, because I refuse to believe that any normal person with any moral compass would vote him after all what he said and did and they know that is a criminal. But is their criminal

This leaves him with a not enough base to win a normal election but unfortunately he has in front a decrepit old man, with the effects of inflation crippling the day by day of people despite that the macro economy looks good and that is dealing with the Israel genocide, that true enough will not affect the big portion of his electorate but is munching away a little bit of support here, a little bit of support there, because democrats needs to cater a broad spectrum. And he is losing independents and mobilized democrats that he had in 2020 left and right.

Trump is not winning because he is winning support and is popular but because Biden is losing much more voters.

And to circle back, right now, only one can hope, because reality is that Trump will become POTUS
 
The Democrats have succeeding in making their biggest opponent the most talked about man in the world for the next 6 months
So, if the election will be Trump's in a landslide, why are seeing virtually every qualitative poll put the race within the margin of error & no separation? Are you counting on this sentence being the catalyst for the ultimate landslide?

Why should the Dems worry about the fallout from the conviction?
 
They're back up a bit on this very page.

I know what I wrote but I see no error. Since you stated that I was "consistently erroneous" please point the errors out to me. I like to know my mistakes. I'll settle for at least one.
 
I know what I wrote but I see no error. Since you stated that I was "consistently erroneous" please point the errors out to me. I like to know my mistakes. I'll settle for at least one.
Here's a couple...

Your prediction that this conviction will have no significant impact on the election for one. Your dismissal of J6 not having an impact in Nov 22 is poor assessment / that it won't matter in November is another prediction.
 
Guilty of 34 charges, or in other words, one third of a Manchester City:nervous:

Leaving the electoral speculations aside, isn't it good that the US justice system gave a very subtle but promising hint pointing to nobody being above the law and everyone being able to be convicted, prosecuted and found guilty on all charges?

If the guy doesn't go to prison and become POTUS, how that would be above the law? This conviction labels him as a criminal and a felon. But in his world that means nothing. I would love to be convicted as a criminal and a felon if I could be a multimillionaire/billionaire with no real life consequences, just a label

Till there is no jail time, he stills above the law in my eyes
 
Here's a couple...

Your prediction that this conviction will have no significant impact on the election for one. Your dismissal of J6 not having an impact in Nov 22 is poor assessment / that it won't matter in November is another prediction.

Since that is a prediction about a future that hasn't happened yet it can't be called in error. But in the next two weeks or so we'll see new polls and if we don't see any meaningful change I'll say that proves me right. I didn't make an predictions about "J6 not having an impact in Nov 22" so once again I can't be in error. So we are back to square one, please show me an actual error or admit you were wrong.
 
So, if the election will be Trump's in a landslide, why are seeing virtually every qualitative poll put the race within the margin of error & no separation? Are you counting on this sentence being the catalyst for the ultimate landslide?

Why should the Dems worry about the fallout from the conviction?
This is one of the problems with Trump. No matter the outcome of the trial, you will hear about the fallout of democrats. If he were acquitted, you would hear “the democrats will pay the price for this”. He is now found guilty in freaking 34 counts, and you hear the same.

Trump is always looked at differently and he’s over analyzed, and it’s frankly tiring.
 
The grift must go on....


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Since that is a prediction about a future that hasn't happened yet it can't be called in error. But in the next two weeks or so we'll see new polls and if we don't see any meaningful change I'll say that proves me right. I didn't make an predictions about "J6 not having an impact in Nov 22" so once again I can't be in error. So we are back to square one, please show me an actual error or admit you were wrong.
Someone can find fault of a future prediction & label it 'erroneous' at any time. Obviously time will tell.

You offered your 'J6' opinion as an assessment, I am saying that is incorrect.

Are you from the US?