Thankfully I don’t think she’ll appear.
Wouldn’t make sense when RTD has stated this is a reset for the series.
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Thankfully I don’t think she’ll appear.
Wouldn’t make sense when RTD has stated this is a reset for the series.
I dont think she will be back, but I would not object if she did, I liked River. Have a thing for Alex Kingson.
Reports this morning that Millie Gibson (Ruby) has already left Doctor Who and Varada Sethu will be replacing her in season 2 with Ruby in only 2/3 eps.
Kinda par for the course with RTD. Major cast change in every season.
Season 1 - 9 & Rose
Season 2 - 10 & Rose
Season 3 - 10 & Martha
Season 4 - 10 & Donna
New Season 1 - 15 and Ruby
New Season 2 - 15 and Varada
Ruby's story does seem like a one and done. Clara came in with a big mystery and when it got solved she should have left. I loved Clara but she stayed too long. Maybe with Ruby's story done there is no need for her.
Or she is a timelord and she regenerates into Varada, but the Bi-Generation keeps Ruby alive. Ruby grows old and becomes Mrs Flood to make sure young Ruby does meet up with the Doctor in some sort of timeloop.
Kinda par for the course with RTD. Major cast change in every season.
Season 1 - 9 & Rose
Season 2 - 10 & Rose
Season 3 - 10 & Martha
Season 4 - 10 & Donna
New Season 1 - 15 and Ruby
New Season 2 - 15 and Varada
Ruby's story does seem like a one and done. Clara came in with a big mystery and when it got solved she should have left. I loved Clara but she stayed too long. Maybe with Ruby's story done there is no need for her.
Or she is a timelord and she regenerates into Varada, but the Bi-Generation keeps Ruby alive. Ruby grows old and becomes Mrs Flood to make sure young Ruby does meet up with the Doctor in some sort of timeloop.
So far the return of RTD is terrible..the so called reboot doesnt work for me..i dont care if its woke ot not the stories itself are just not that interesting and intriguing..
Even if you think the episodes have been shit quality wise - It has been a ratings smash, critically well received with high AI scores and the majority of the fandom have loved it. His return has objectively not been terrible for Doctor Who which was completely in the shit following the Chibnal era. The fact he’s managed to piss off the Mail and the usual gaggle of anti-woke cnuts on YouTube so much they have to spend their days review bombing rotten tomatoes whilst doing it is but an added bonus.
That not a bad explanation, but all the reports I have seen say she was dropped and it was as bit of a shock, but thats RTD for you.
Huge red flag if the robots are enjoying it.
Hopefully true as she seems to be a terrible actor. Yeah it's Dr who and you don't need to be amazing but something better than high school play would be good.
The Great Intelligence is a big fan too.
Saw the singing and thought, "Russell's watched STRANGE NEW WORLDS too (or BUFFY reruns)"
Some reports saying Millie was fired for being a diva, others saying she quit due to poor conditions and problems with production staff ala Ecclestone.
Could be Disney wanted someone else that they knew in the role. I have a feeling Disney have more control than people think
Could be Disney wanted someone else that they knew in the role. I have a feeling Disney have more control than people think
I am re-watching Doctor Who and I have got to The Giggle.
I had thought about Mrs Flood, could she actually be the Doctor? Could she be Tennent's Doctor after a few regenerations
I had thought about Mrs Flood, could she actually be the Doctor? Could she be Tennent's Doctor after a few regenerations
Tennant's doctor regenerates into Ncuti i believe. He stated he was the way he is because Tennant took time out with Donna.
Mrs Flood is likely River or else another Master perhaps
yeah but all this bi regeneration stuff who knows. 2 Doctors 2 TARDIS's which we know Tennents Doctor uses because at the end of the Giggle they talk about it.
I doubt very much its River,
The BBC today confirms that Ncuti Gatwa will depart Doctor Who after his second season as the Fifteenth Doctor, set to air in 2025. Matt Smith, renowned for his role as the Eleventh Doctor, will once again step into the TARDIS, this time as the sixteenth incarnation of the Time Lord, mirroring David Tennant’s celebrated Doctor Who return last year.
Was not expecting a Smith return
https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/matt-smith-returns-as-16th-doctor-101138.htm
Was not expecting a Smith return
https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/matt-smith-returns-as-16th-doctor-101138.htm
That's from April 1st mate.
Only saw it today , fell for that hook line and sinker
it's ok, we all fall for something at some pointFirst episode of the new season was OK, nothing special but a good start. 6/10
Episode 2 was a huge improvement, loved it.
I liked the first episode. A fun little adventure.
I agree though that episode 2 was the better of the two.
I agree though that episode 2 was the better of the two.
There were bits of episode 2 I really liked, but the full on dance number at the end lost me. I always struggle with that sort of belief suspension burden. Not a bad start to the season and still pretty optimistic for the remainder.
I thought they were both terrible. Hate the Americanisation and Disneyfication of the show.
I don't want to go down the root of the show that it's just far too camp now and more interested in ticking boxes than delivering good TV.
I understand the show has always been camp of course it has but perhaps theres good camp and bad camp and Davies is not really capable of making good camp TV anymore.
I think Ncuti has the makings off a great Doctor Millie Gibson cannot act to save her life though and I suspect that's why they have replaced her so soon.
I'll keep watching as I'm a fan but disappointing is the word so far on my view
I understand the show has always been camp of course it has but perhaps theres good camp and bad camp and Davies is not really capable of making good camp TV anymore.
I think Ncuti has the makings off a great Doctor Millie Gibson cannot act to save her life though and I suspect that's why they have replaced her so soon.
I'll keep watching as I'm a fan but disappointing is the word so far on my view
I wouldn't go as far as terrible but the first episode was not great and the second turned into fecking Glee. RTD has credit in the bank though, so I'll give it time.
It's well made, well cast, well acted but with one glaring flaw - it's too postmodern for my taste. There's only so many times you can wink to the camera before it becomes impossible to suspend disbelief. Scifi has to take itself completely seriously or I can't.
Terrible is a bit harsh, OK first EP was a quirky one. Second was way better.
I agree with @lsd that Ncuti has the makings off a great Doctor Millie Gibson cannot act to save her life
Just my opinion. Doctor who has always been a bit cringe and over the top but this combines those two elements and adds the Disney stuff on top and it becomes far too much for me.
I agree that Ncuti and Davies are good but I'd prefer they went back to a bit of the older elements which won't happen because of the Disney takeover.
First episode was cringe second was absolutely awful. I agree with the Glee comparison and you never go full Glee. If it doesn't pick up soon I think I might quit.
First episode was meh. Not bad, I just didn't really like the whole baby concept.
Second episode was quite good in patches but very samey to the Toymaker, and again not sure I fully bought into the concept of the embodiment of music essence or whatever they described it as. It was a bit like Flux with the villain being the embodiment of space or time or whatever the feck.
I thought the whole song and dance about a twist at the end would mean we'd get a little twist at the end of the episode, but nope. Bit weird really. Like, if it had been worked into the story somehow, like if the villain had control over people through music and controlled them do it, it'd have been interesting and a dark edge to it, but it seemed pointless doing it once the episode had essentially finished. Although I'm sure it's a slight nod to the predicted twist at the end of the series (Susan). But if so I thought they'd add a little teaser at the end of the song and dance to at least justify it.
Second episode was quite good in patches but very samey to the Toymaker, and again not sure I fully bought into the concept of the embodiment of music essence or whatever they described it as. It was a bit like Flux with the villain being the embodiment of space or time or whatever the feck.
I thought the whole song and dance about a twist at the end would mean we'd get a little twist at the end of the episode, but nope. Bit weird really. Like, if it had been worked into the story somehow, like if the villain had control over people through music and controlled them do it, it'd have been interesting and a dark edge to it, but it seemed pointless doing it once the episode had essentially finished. Although I'm sure it's a slight nod to the predicted twist at the end of the series (Susan). But if so I thought they'd add a little teaser at the end of the song and dance to at least justify it.
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Oh, I'm fully with you on that. The show constantly changes, but there are core elements you need to retain. Hopefully, it'll calm down and get back to the basics soon.
They won't go back to how it was. They're purposefully taking it in a different direction. RTD pitching it as fantasy opposed to sci-fi. I suspect we'll have numerous song and dance routines, lots of childish stories and creatures, lots of Toymaker-esque "not of this universe" villains etc. It is what it is tbh. It had got stale before so I'm not opposed to it taking a different direction and trying to just take it for it is.
Been trying to persevere with this but...it's just not good anymore. The latest episode had a good premise to it but didn't explain anything and upon looking up what it all means apparently RTD has left it up to the viewer to decide. feck off.
I actually have liked all the episodes so far. The last episode being open-ended is meh to me. It was a good experience watching it.
The only one I've been meh on was Space Babies.
The only one I've been meh on was Space Babies.
Space Babies and The Devil's Chord were terrible for me.
Boom was fantastic and this weekend's 73 yards was very very good for the first 30 minutes, then went to crap in the last 15.
Boom was fantastic and this weekend's 73 yards was very very good for the first 30 minutes, then went to crap in the last 15.
The whole babies space babies things he kept saying with correcting himself was annoying.
"Is there something wrong with me?" says the baby
"No, there's nothing wrong with you. You're perfect exactly the way you are" replies the Doctor.
I know they're trying to make a social commentary, but, it doesn't work in this context. There absolutely is something wrong with the babies. They quite literally cannot fend for themselves, feed themselves, or do anything independently of themselves to survive. They're entirely and utterly dependent on someone else to not die.
literally no one in their right mind would say, "yeah, let's expand these group of babies with yet more utterly dependent children in baby bodies."
"Is there something wrong with me?" says the baby
"No, there's nothing wrong with you. You're perfect exactly the way you are" replies the Doctor.
I know they're trying to make a social commentary, but, it doesn't work in this context. There absolutely is something wrong with the babies. They quite literally cannot fend for themselves, feed themselves, or do anything independently of themselves to survive. They're entirely and utterly dependent on someone else to not die.
literally no one in their right mind would say, "yeah, let's expand these group of babies with yet more utterly dependent children in baby bodies."
Last two have been far better than the opening two. Loved 73 yards, although I'm not entirely sure it made an awful lot of sense.
Wasn’t that impressed with the first few episodes, but am a fan of latest episode. Real sense of mystery, though it did lose its way towards the end of the episode. It had a good plot and kept viewers intrigued, but I’m not entirely satisfied with the resolution of the episode. I think I loved it until the ‘election campaign’ chapter of the episode started then lost interest.
The last episode was very good for thirty minutes even though Millie Gibson cannot act to save her life but then it just went down the road to nonsense.
Has to be said despite Ncuti being fantastic the writing has been every bit as bad as during the Chibnall era in fact possibly even worse.
Not sure Davies coming back was a good move when his ideas have been so terrible
Has to be said despite Ncuti being fantastic the writing has been every bit as bad as during the Chibnall era in fact possibly even worse.
Not sure Davies coming back was a good move when his ideas have been so terrible
Doctor Who always frustrates me, as for years now it seems to be nearly good but somehow isn't.
I really, really liked the recent specials and had high hopes for this series, but it seems so disjointed.
Space Babies was meh, but a reasonable episode once I got over the babies thing. The second episode felt like a special, but just a re-hashing of the Toymaker special and not as good. Could have been later in the series. The song and dance at the end that didnt contribute to the episose was weird. Boom was meh, but i cant see how others liked. 73 yards was nearly good but felt rushed and parts unexplained, could have been a two parter really to make the Mad Jack bit more threatening.
Overall not sure there's even enough new stuff or change to justify the whole rebrand. The episodes seem very similiar to the pasr few series in style and quality. The recent specials showed Tennants Doctor doing some visual stuff with the sonic which was cool, but we havent seen that since, which seems like a waste. And the anti-gravity glove seems like it has since been forgotten about (presumably could have been used when the door was open on Space Babies). And no other innovations since I can think of. The nods to social justice have been in the show for years and is nothing new either. Ruby's foster family haven't had any character development, and the fact that Ruby is in a band and has a social life hasnt been mentioned, she's just become generic Doctor's Companion, except for the mystery behind her origin/birth mother.
I hope whatever twist they have coming with the actress Susan Twist, Ruby's backstory and the neighbour who knew what a Tardis was will salvage the series, but so far its just been typical Doctor Who. I watch it, I enjoy it, but always left frustrated it isnt just a bit better.
I really, really liked the recent specials and had high hopes for this series, but it seems so disjointed.
Space Babies was meh, but a reasonable episode once I got over the babies thing. The second episode felt like a special, but just a re-hashing of the Toymaker special and not as good. Could have been later in the series. The song and dance at the end that didnt contribute to the episose was weird. Boom was meh, but i cant see how others liked. 73 yards was nearly good but felt rushed and parts unexplained, could have been a two parter really to make the Mad Jack bit more threatening.
Overall not sure there's even enough new stuff or change to justify the whole rebrand. The episodes seem very similiar to the pasr few series in style and quality. The recent specials showed Tennants Doctor doing some visual stuff with the sonic which was cool, but we havent seen that since, which seems like a waste. And the anti-gravity glove seems like it has since been forgotten about (presumably could have been used when the door was open on Space Babies). And no other innovations since I can think of. The nods to social justice have been in the show for years and is nothing new either. Ruby's foster family haven't had any character development, and the fact that Ruby is in a band and has a social life hasnt been mentioned, she's just become generic Doctor's Companion, except for the mystery behind her origin/birth mother.
I hope whatever twist they have coming with the actress Susan Twist, Ruby's backstory and the neighbour who knew what a Tardis was will salvage the series, but so far its just been typical Doctor Who. I watch it, I enjoy it, but always left frustrated it isnt just a bit better.