I didn't even get the slightest bit of excitement when that opportunity fell to him, says it all.
Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances
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His crossing was abysmal even when there were players in the box, not to mention the fecking corners.
No one is really saying that.
Everybody was shite? The back four did the job with the clean sheet. The midfield was totally lost as they didnt have a target man to play to. He was the focal point of the attack, and yet he was constantly playing in the middle of the field. When Nani and Evra were having possession on the left flank, he came up, and all 3 cluster feck in the same area. He is a striker and his responsiblity is to take up positions, for the midfielders to find him. His positioning is creating a lot of confusion, can't you tell?
I've seen both sue the ball far better. Same as both fullbacks. Since our trip to Munich our ball usage as a team has flown out the door. I'm baffled as to why
our full backs were pretty much wank today, I mean going forward.
IMO the problem was that we looked defeated before the game actually started. no urgency, no cutting edge. I was just surprised that Blackburn didn';t show up in the first half.
Calm down, he was good though.
In fairness he did run quite a bit today. What he didn't do, however, was instill any kind of confidence in anyone. He just looks so goddamn negative all the time. The pass to pick you out wasn't perfect, and got intercepted. Fine, get on with it. Is there really any point in waving your arm petulantly at the player who played? Do you not think he is aware that the pass was shit?
And, as people have said time and time again here, GET IN THE BOX. It's really really frustrating to watch! His style, whatever, he's playing as a lone striker. And is just about our only thread in the air, besides our center-backs.
Because this is a thread about Berbatov.
This is something a lot of you fail to realise whilst crusading on his behalf.
I haven't once blamed the defeat on Berbatov, nor have I said that all other players on the pitch were fantastic.
Who is this thread about? Remind me.
Thanks, "get to feck" R Nick.
Prick.
I couldn't really give a shit whether you don't fancy him as a player. He hasn't been as good as his ability would suggest since he's joined. I have no problem with people saying that.
What does bother me however is the fact that you lot seem to revel in his bad performances, and are so spoiled by our success that when we occasionally fall short, that you seem to desperately need to seek out scapegoats. Of which he seems to be the only one you behave like a petulant little child over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was all Berbatovs fault. Well, as far as I could see he played way better than Nani, Scholes and Giggs. At least he as able to pass the ball.
Scholes gave an appalling display today. I can't see him wanting to stay on for another year if this is his level when it really matters.
Scholes gave an appalling display today. I can't see him wanting to stay on for another year if this is his level when it really matters.
It is almost understandable as to why Ronaldo chose to move on... Previous years with Ronaldo, he would need to be the midfield and striker for games like this when nobody had their shit together.
Hypocrisy... overload... does not... compute.
In the last 10 he was the catalyst for most of our good attacks.
The Berba hatred is not just about today, its the culmination of 2 years of mediocrity where he's failed to deliver when its been requested of him. Since day one his style has never worked for United. He slows/destroys the counter attack, sits deep, offers very little in terms of presence in the box and expects the ball to be handed to him on a silver plater.
More like a free role. His responsibilities were no-where near what you'd expect from a midfielder.
But whatever, claim that one if you will. It's hardly a point that's central to most of the bullshit I have a problem with in this thread.
No, everyone isn't frustrated by his performance at all, but some of us are frustrated by the fact that some on here are unable to come onto this forum without jumping into a thread to criticise him after every match.
It's tedious to say the least and most of the time completely uncalled for too. Have any of you any idea just how ridiculous you really sound at times. Berba was good today, some of our players weren't too good at all.
I'm not saying he was the worst one. Well, actually in the second half I thought he was. In the first he was decent.
A) The game was lost in central midfield. A midfield made by Scholes and Giggs would have probably humilated Blackburn a decade ago, but things had changed till then. We started well but we (rightly so) ran out of steam. I am not blaming SAF entirely, I mean we have tried all combinations and yet we still looked shite in central midfield. Its only fair that SAF would rely on his old guard and yet, it failed too.
B) Something must be terribly wrong when you are desperate to score a goal and you end up with Berba and Park as the most advanced players. Lets face it, Park is hardworking and a club man while Berba is technically gifted but none of them are scorers. We could have as well sticked Rio and VDS upfront and hoped for the best.
We need a big big change. Certain players need to retire, other need to be sold and some real quality need to be brought in.
B) Something must be terribly wrong when you are desperate to score a goal and you end up with Berba and Park as the most advanced players. Lets face it, Park is hardworking and a club man while Berba is technically gifted but none of them are scorers. We could have as well sticked Rio and VDS upfront and hoped for the best.
We need a big big change. Certain players need to retire, other need to be sold and some real quality need to be brought in.
Not exactly true, what's with people saying everyone was shit when Berba has a poor game, load of nonsense really.
"I haaaaaate him! I wanna 'nother one instead!"
I generally have to agree with this. He seems to be a bit of a thinker and that is a problem when to be part of the attack you have to rely on instinct. He'd be better off sitting behind two fowards supplying them with sublime passes.
Did he play up front or not? I claimed he was in midfield. If he was not in midfield, he was either in defence or up front. What was it?
So can we establish whether he's a playmaker or a striker then?
Because if he's a playmaker, we need to enforce our front line. And if he's a striker, he's a bit rubbish tbh.
One thing is umprompted name-calling on erroneous grounds (Dans never read a post of Nick defending Berbatov), another thing is having proven yourself a twat.
Who played well in the second half?
Our central defenders were ok, I suppose. Park looked lively but ineffectual. Anyone else?
That's exactly it.
He doesn't make the runs that Rooney does but I don't think that's laziness he's just not that kind of striker. He is severely lacking in confidence and unfortunately he doesn't seem to have the mental toughness to get over that. He seems to be very self critical when he makes a mistake but instead of trying harder he just gets frustrated with himself.
I don't how many more chances he will get, he has the quality but time is running out for him to prove himself I feel
He was the most creative player on the pitch for us, can't blame him for this
Round peg, square hole. In the mold of Veron.
I thought his second half performance was disgraceful frankly, either throwing a strop or giving away the ball.
I thought his second half performance was disgraceful frankly, either throwing a strop or giving away the ball.
To me it seemed like he was one of our most hard working players out there today and gave his all. You could see how much he cares judging by his frustration.
Think a step further. I'd claim him a free role in this game. We're clearly hoping that wings and midfielders will arrive in numbers and that Berbatov'll help the right moves along for us to create chances. He certainly did, at times.
Take a long hard look at yourself
Nice pass for Valencia in the first half.
Apart from that he was shit.
Hes not a United player. He cant take the pressure of being a key player for a top team - his head went after about 65 mins when things were not going for him.
Apart from that he was shit.
Hes not a United player. He cant take the pressure of being a key player for a top team - his head went after about 65 mins when things were not going for him.
STAY ON TOPIC PLEASE PEOPLE.
God forbid the Berba Army move this thread in a "the rest of the team was crap too" direction. That is their only defence after all. Wouldn't be right letting them get away with it.
God forbid the Berba Army move this thread in a "the rest of the team was crap too" direction. That is their only defence after all. Wouldn't be right letting them get away with it.
Nani was just as poor to be fair, but at least he has potential, unlike someone...
Talking about Nani Livvie not Berbacrap
Scholes did his job well.
A voice of reason.
People seem to think that everyone in here bashing Berbatov is basing that solely on his under-par performance today. That we've watched him be terrible in a single game, and are such retards we've made our minds up based on that.
Newsflash: He's been disappointing for two years. What's driven it home today is that his lazy, useless performance really stood out in a game where we probably threw away the league title. The game where he finally needed to exorcise his demons, he instead indulged them.
People don't want Berbatov out because of one poor performance - they want him out because of two years of consistently poor performances, where he failed to show up in the big games (eventualy being simply dropped for them), doesn't work in a 4-3-3, works poorly in a 4-4-2. He doesn't fit this United time and it merely leads to him becoming frustrated, at which point he flounces about sulking and wandering about offside.
It spoke absolute volumes that when he was curled up on the floor holding his face we didn't even bother to put the ball out. We just played on as if he wasn't there.
Newsflash: He's been disappointing for two years. What's driven it home today is that his lazy, useless performance really stood out in a game where we probably threw away the league title. The game where he finally needed to exorcise his demons, he instead indulged them.
People don't want Berbatov out because of one poor performance - they want him out because of two years of consistently poor performances, where he failed to show up in the big games (eventualy being simply dropped for them), doesn't work in a 4-3-3, works poorly in a 4-4-2. He doesn't fit this United time and it merely leads to him becoming frustrated, at which point he flounces about sulking and wandering about offside.
It spoke absolute volumes that when he was curled up on the floor holding his face we didn't even bother to put the ball out. We just played on as if he wasn't there.
Our CB's played well, I thought Neville did too, he made a great block in the second half, Park added some spark, *starts clutching straws* Keeper was good!
Yea fair enough, too far, apologies.
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