Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances

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Valencia seem's to be escaping well. We had one good chance, one which Berba created, and he fecked it up. Just like van der Vaart did last night it was an awful finish. Didn't test the goal keeper at all. Both corners open, his legs were open. Horrible finish. Cost us the game.
 
For all of you who are complaining that Berbatov is the subject for criticism rather than Vidic, Rio and co in a thread about...................Berbatov.

I mean, come on. Are you really all that stupid?
 
I can't believe that anybody who's witnessed Tevez' pig-ignorant media handling, considering that he thought the fans would think no ill of him, would miss him.

I don't like the idea of him in our team because of that.

If Heinze weren't shit I'd ask if you wanted him back as cover in case O'Shea struggles with fitness.

I think a lot of Tevez' media shit was down to his bloody agent but still we had Tevez here who loved the team and was quality and we screwed around with him for Berbatov.

Anyway i think JayWalker's assessment was the most honest and well put here.
 
I think Berba's time is up with us after this season. Today's game pretty much highlights this, Berba played very well yet continuously showed us why he doesnt fit our style of play. He is clearly a very good player but is just so out of place, both parties would benefit if he leaves, perhaps he can involved in an exchange deal of some sort.
 
What a fecking bunch of twats you all moaning people are. He clearly was one of the best players out there today and he nearly set up a winning goal if Valencia did not feck it up. He had also as a partner a young learning striker who is not the best match for him. But I guess you all need a scapegoat and it is the usual victim that is singled out. You should all be ashamed of yourself, he is clearly a quality player who is lacking some confidence these days and tries hard to step up but without the support of the fans who are supposed to be some of the best around it is very difficult to do so.
 
Agreed, he worked well with Macheda as we expected he would. The service from the midfield was fecking shite throughout, but of course Berbatov takes the blame for that as well. I doubt even Rooney would have done much better with what he was getting.

The service argument is a fecking retarded one. If he was an out and out striker, Inzaghi, Owen type player fair enough, but Berbatov is supposed to be the guy that creates opportunities for others as well as pose a threat himself. He's on the fecking pitch to make things happen. He has never taken control of a game, and when we needed him most today he sulked and moaned like a bitch. His attitude is fecking useless. I now loathe this mother fecker and god knows I've tried to appreciate him.
 
I'm no fan of Berba but the price tag arguement is stupid. We paid £30 million for him because thats what Spurs wanted, Berbatov didn't set his own price.

I didn't mean it as a dig at Berba... more a dig at Fergie. He got this one wrong... The Tevez/Berba saga was one of his biggest cock-ups in a long time.
 
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As for service - if you don't make yourself available, how is a midfield supposed to serve you?
The same old dim witted excuse. The midfield today would not have served anyone. Not even C. Ronaldo at his best. They were more shit than the forwards today. To claim Berba made them poor is wide of the mark. He like they, were solely to blame for their own poverty of quality today.
 
I am not the manager. It's not my job to sort the ineffective lazy bastard out.

I am a supporter who doesn't see enough effort and I am voicing my opinion.

Fine, but you lay it at his door step. What if it's not his fault and he's being told to play to his style and strengths, and it doesn't always come off for him or the team? You're spouting vitriol at him without giving this enough thought, and it's unfair.

I lost count of the amount of times he was behind our deep lying central midfielder, Scholes. Berbatov played in midfield. A striker gets inside the box. He did not play as a striker.

A midfielder also helps out at back, didn't see Berba do that.

He wasn't what we'd call a striker, but he wasn't a midfield player either.
 
Someone like me? And what is that exactly, someone who doesn't jump from thread to thread basing one of our players over and over again and then having a go at the people who don't join in?

Sloooooooow.
 
Stop defending Berba for the sake of it, every player can't be worthy of wearing the United shirt.

His poor excuse of standing still on a football pitch, "it's my style" doesn't fecking hold. Run you lazy fecking tower of shite.
 
He was the only one who looked like creating something for feck sake, get a grip everyone, jesus christ. It wasnt his best game, not by a mile, but he was the best of a bad bunch in my eyes. Our team is just not good enough to challenge on all fronts and thats that and if anybody even dares to call me a muppet for saying that, you can feck off.

Everyone else was absolute dogshite.
 
Shhhh, no one wants to hear that. It's so much more fun to blame him for everything that goes wrong. That said, being our best player today might not be saying much..

I like Berbatov, but at this point I'm really starting to wonder if he has the mental ability to play for Manchester United. I don't think he's lazy, nor do I dislike the fact that he plays deep (he's done some fantastic work for us up there when he hasn't been played as a lone striker). But his body language at times seems to portray a lack of confidence and, perhaps, a lack of determination. If you don't have confidence, you're going to fail at Manchester United. I'm not sure what to think of him really.

This.

There is no other explanation. You dont lose your ability. But fact is he doesnt look like he can cut it under constant scrutiny and spotlight here at united.

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I was just on the phone with roman abramovich about a 15 mil deal and he told me to go feck myself

Criticism is fine. But childish potshots are well childish.
 
Thing is Berba was good in the first half. But he isn't a lone striker. He can't lead the line. He can never play there. So once Macheda went off he was always going to struggle.
Berba on his own is never ever ever ever ever ever a good idea.


Bad subs again.
 
Shhhh, no one wants to hear that. It's so much more fun to blame him for everything that goes wrong. That said, being our best player today might not be saying much..

I like Berbatov, but at this point I'm really starting to wonder if he has the mental ability to play for Manchester United. I don't think he's lazy, nor do I dislike the fact that he plays high up the pitch (he's done some fantastic work for us up there when he hasn't been played as a lone striker). But his body language at times seems to portray a lack of confidence and, perhaps, a lack of determination. If you don't have confidence, you're going to fail at Manchester United. I'm not sure what to think of him really.

This is it. He's obviously not a bad player and I was convinced he would add a different dimension to our game. But, when we need goals, we can't afford for our striker (whoever he is) to play the game permanently behind most of our midfield. He faded badly in the second half and began to make a number of mistakes. Spending so much time on the floor too was not impressive.

But, it would be a mistake to blame him for everything. Like it or not he created the best chance of the game. Others played badly too and I think Ferguson is as much to blame for Berb's failure so far as anyone. As things stand though, and if we could get reasonable value for him, I would let him go. Sometimes these things don't work out but with he doesn't score enough in the games we really need him to.
 
Eriku, R Nick, Erica.

Do you see how many people are getting fed up with him?

Just because you loved him once and someone disagreed with you then, doesn't mean you are not allowed to see the reality. You don't HAVE to stick to your guns out of some retarded loyalty to your weakening position on the lazy fecker.

My god, you're quite the wannabe condescending cnut aren't you?

All I've done is pointed out your pathetic hypocrisy in bashing Berbatov wherever you go and yet calling somebody all sorts for mentioning Carrick's name in this thread. You don't actually seem to be concerned with what's best for United, you just want to act the twat on here and argue with people, ignoring the points they make to you and just harping on with the clichéd shite about Berbatov.

He was one of our best players in the first half, and in the second half pretty much everyone was shite, so why single him out and seemingly take joy in proclaiming his United career over? Get to feck will you, you fecking pathetic wanker.
 
This.

There is no other explanation. You dont lose your ability. But fact is he doesnt look like he can cut it under constant scrutiny and spotlight here at united.



Criticism is fine. But childish potshots are well childish.

:lol: Sorry, it was a lighthearted joke, I thought he played well in the first half, created a few openings but the second was one of his worst in a United Shirt, people said he would do it in a 4-4-2 , well.
 
Nani may have been trying but it wasn't fecking working was it? But then he has had his turn as scapegoat of choice I suppose.



Disagree. I am extremely impressed with Nani's contribution both offensively and defensively in recent months. However, even he beats the defenders with constant ease, he is going to look very bad, if no striker, ie that useless crap, is willing to take up good positions in the box to receive the cross. Can't believe nobody is complaining about how pissed poor his positioning is, and that coming from a striker. Give me Frazier Campbell any fecking day.
 
I think a lot of Tevez' media shit was down to his bloody agent but still we had Tevez here who loved the team and was quality and we screwed around with him for Berbatov.

Anyway i think JayWalker's assessment was the most honest and well put here.

He hardly convinced much last season. That said, his quality's always been apparent. But he loved the club? If he did he knows that you don't go to City without the supporters getting annoyed... and you don't have pops at Ferguson, that are also contrary to your own statements a year ago.

Good riddance, even if it turns out Berba will never be our man.
 
Oh my gosh.

Now remember, children, someone's going to have to pick up those toys you're throwing all over the floor. Now drink some warm milk, give mummy a cuddle and go to bed, you'll feel better in the morning. There there.

As for Berbatov? Good in the first half. Terrible in the second. To be fair, everyone was shit after half time but he was particularly awful. That miscued volley summed up his afternoon.
 
I didn't mean it as a dig at Berba... more a dig at Fergie. He got this one wrong... The Tevez/Berba saga was one of his biggest cock-ups in a long time.

I would say in terms of pound for pound, even compared with Veron, he's the biggest mistake Fergie has ever made in the transfer market. People can say he didn't set his price etc etc, but if that's what Sir Alex and David Gill thought was worth paying for him then they look foolish. There are more effective players who cost half Berbatovs amount. If he'd cost half the amount I'd still be fecking disappointed with him. He's pathetic.
 
While clearly Berba was not the cause of the poor performance and it was a poor poor performance all around but he really is not contributing in any useful way. When Rooney is injured and we depend on him he's doing nothing. He just does not score enough.
 
Thing is Berba was good in the first half. But he isn't a lone striker. He can't lead the line. He can never play there. So once Macheda went off he was always going to struggle.
Berba on his own is never ever ever ever ever ever a good idea.


Bad subs again.

Berbatov was fecking excellent in the first half. It's not his fault we didn't play a fecking centre forward in the second.

And before anyone says he himself is one, clearly SAF doesn't consider him so. We've lost the points today because we had feck all at the sharp end of the pitch.

Our over reliance on Rooney was there for all to see.
 
We really have some scum "supporters."

Ahhh jeeezzz. If we raise one point against a player we're all scum. I got news for you:

1.We are all allowed opinions, that's the point of this forum.

2. Berbatov was on the deck in the 2nd half and no one cared. Both Blackburn and United carried on as he lay on the pitch. If it had been Rooney or almost anyone else I am 99.9% sure that the ball would have been fired into row Z by the United players so fast your head would be spinning. To me that spoke volumes for the confidence they have in him to do the job he's paid to do, which is be a part of the attack.

That being said, he wasn't complete shite today, just in the second half. Unfortunately you can't show up for 45 minutes and call yourself United quality. He appears to be toothless.
 
A midfielder also helps out at back, didn't see Berba do that.

He wasn't what we'd call a striker, but he wasn't a midfield player either.

Yes. Berbatov was in both the left back and right back positions on numerous occasions actually.

He played in midfield. If you think he played as a striker, then I'd advise you to watch the match again.
 
I see the morons have identified their scapegoat...again.

Man of the match after Giggs imo.

You can be motm and shite at the same time, if the whole team has underperformed. I don't blame the draw on Berbatov, I'm just sick of being dissapointed everytime I see him play.

I have never seen a less inspired player, his lack of passion and commitment is an offense to our history and pride.
 
one man team clearly. How can a draw be attributable to one player?

You tell 'em you
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My god, you're quite the wannabe condescending cnut aren't you?

All I've done is pointed out your pathetic hypocrisy in bashing Berbatov wherever you go and yet calling somebody all sorts for mentioning Carrick's name in this thread. You don't actually seem to be concerned with what's best for United, you just want to act the twat on here and argue with people, ignoring the points they make to you and just harping on with the clichéd shite about Berbatov.

He was one of our best players in the first half, and in the second half pretty much everyone was shite, so why single him out and seemingly take joy in proclaiming his United career over? Get to feck will you, you fecking pathetic wanker.

Yup. Pure wummery or he's just bigging up himself without using his brain.

I'm sure you've reached this conclusion too, but I'll proffer what I'm going to do; ignore the feck out of this bloke .
 
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