Dimitar Berbatov | 2009/10 Performances

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Pogue Mahone said:
:lol: I've just got an amusing mental image of you watching "players who practise to hold up the ball before releasing it for a team mate" in your imaginary training sessions.

Anyway, regarding the option Berbatov chose, I'm glad he did what he did. What with us winning a penalty an' all.
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And how many times are we going to win that penalty? Think about that.
 
Sunny Jim said:
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its intresting that we think Bebratov had a better game on Sat than against Blackburn. look at the chalkboard from the Supurs game. only 23 passes, 17 sucessful.
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Against Blackburn, Bebatov played in the first half more as an attacking mid than as a striker. This explains why he made a lot of passes, if I'm not mistaken he had more successful passes than any other player on the pitch in the firs half: over 30. Actually, he had a very good first half against Blackburn - had Valencia taken that golden chance, we would have been top of the league now.

In the second half, Berbatov faded, started to play as a lone striker after Macheda was substituted, missed one good chance and was scapegoated by the media and the caftards. We missed Fletcher in that game and personally I think that SAF made a mistake by not bringing him in the second half. The whole team was poor, not only Berbatov but he was made responsible for the dire performance as if we hadn't had such performances against Burnley, Brum, Fulham, Villa at home - games in which he didn't start.
 
marchi-91 said:
And how many times are we going to win that penalty? Think about that.
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Huh?

If we didn't win the penalty Evra was clean through, with Scholes free on the edge of the 6-yard box to score a tap-in.

Evra might have fecked up though. So might Scholes.

Similarly, Nani might have fecked up if Berbatov squared it for him instead of playing Evra in (as he did when Carrick rolled a ball across the box later on in the game)

Who knows? It's all completely hypothetical but if you can't appreciate that Berbatov played an important part in our first goal then you're either blinded by your own preconceptions or you don't really get football.
 
Reading a lot of the press this morning and they're giving Berbatov pretty good ratings for his performance.

There's two league games left and he'll play in the both. Time to make himself a hero yet!
 
Commadus said:
Berba Fan Lexicon

Average Performance = Very very Good
Above Average Performance = Man of Match
Great Performance = We haven't actually got here but if we did I think their heads would explode gushing forth superlatives.:D
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it works in both ways tbh. from time to time he has a good game and there are brigades bashing him afterwards.

Dunno which agenda is more annoying
 
Commadus said:
Berba Fan Lexicon

Average Performance = Very very Good
Above Average Performance = Man of Match
Great Performance = We haven't actually got here but if we did I think their heads would explode gushing forth superlatives.:D
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Mate. What the feck.

He's a United player. Just get behind him. No one is criticising posters who make genuine, constructive criticisms. But your type of post is fecking embarrassing. It shouldn't be a case of "Berba Fan" and "Berba Hater". Can't you see that? Just support the centre forward that we're relying on to help us win the title.
 
Commadus said:
Berba Fan Lexicon

Average Performance = Very very Good
Above Average Performance = Man of Match
Great Performance = We haven't actually got here but if we did I think their heads would explode gushing forth superlatives.:D
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Oh look, I've spotted a cnut!
 
Name Changed said:
Paul Scholes, Darren Fletcher and Ryan Giggs are anything but average midfielders.
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Apparently, we've had an "average" midfield ever since Roy Keane fell from grace.

In the past two matches, Paul Scholes has been the best in the country. That comes after a season, where 80% of the time, he was excellent. Giggs was also fantastic before his broken arm. Fletcher needs no explanation. Carrick has had a poor season - he will pick it up though. Gibson has had a good break through year. Factor in Anderson and Hargreaves, plus one or two of the younger lads, and it's clear that we have good quality and depth in that area for next season.
 
Manchester United No2 Mike Phelan admits Dimitar Berbatov needs to be driven to produce top quality performances.

Berba impressed in Wayne Rooney's absence for United's 3-1 win over Tottenham on Saturday.

Phelan said: “A lot’s been said about Berba and we know the qualities Berba’s got. All we ask from Dimitar is a little bit of something else that we haven’t seen for a while and he can do that, we’ve seen him do it in the past and when we keep pushing him and pushing him and he responds the right way, he’ a handful for anybody (is) Berba and I thought in particular in the second half he did well up front.

“Berba’s a great talent, there’s no question about that. As coaches, as managers, we demand more from great talents. If you look at the likes of the Giggs’, the Scholes’, we demand from them as well and they produce. Berba’s no different in that respect and when he shows the form that he’s in today, he’s enjoyed himself and he’s created opportunities, he’s been unlucky with a couple of shots and we’re pleased for him.”
 
This thread has gotten more volatile than the old Hargreaves one a couple of years back.
 
AllhailManUtd said:
I disagree, if he isn't playign well he only has himself to blame. All this nonsence about our midfield not being good enough and what not... its absolutely rubbish, other players are doing just fine with our midfield, we are second place in the PL, made it to the quarters of the champions league, we could have hardly done all that if our midfield was rubbish.

Berba is hardly in an position to scream at our better players i.e. Nani, nani contributed much more than him. Its ok when you are Ronaldo or Rooney, the best players, if you are a player who has no significant impact on our performances you are hardly in a position to scream at someone who has done the business far more often this season.

Also, he was just average yesterday, not bad not great either.

And why are people who question his contribution not united fans? If anything they are concerned about the effect of a non performer on the welfare of the team. Strange the conclusions people come to.
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Incredible isn't it, maybe they only came to see Berbatov:rolleyes:
 
Commadus said:
Berba Fan Lexicon

Average Performance = Very very Good
Above Average Performance = Man of Match
Great Performance = We haven't actually got here but if we did I think their heads would explode gushing forth superlatives.:D
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I know that you were trying to be negative towards Berbatov, but if you re-read what you've written there you'll see that you basically summed up what people like yourself say.

Personally I think Berbatov's been a good player for us, I don't quite understand the negative hype around him. If he added some more goals it'd be nice but other than that I'm happy with his performances. He's not really helped by having a crowd that's on his back instead of lifting him.

@Sunny Jim

I think his stats look worse there because they're his passing stats. He dribbled a lot more on Saturday, imo.
 
Commadus said:
Berba Fan Lexicon

Average Performance = Very very Good
Above Average Performance = Man of Match
Great Performance = We haven't actually got here but if we did I think their heads would explode gushing forth superlatives.:D
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100% agree - anyone that is purely a Berbatov fan will think along those lines.

Those with first loyalty to United will see the performances for what they are.

Saturday's performance was pretty much everything we want from a lone striker except for the goals. He isn't suited for the role but, if and when he is called upon to fill that role and he gives us what he did on Saturday, as a United supporter, say well done Berbatov. More of that please and next time chip in with a goal, we like our strikers to score more.

The rating of the performance is so subjective - if say Macheda or Diouf had played the way Berbatov had, they'd get even more praise. If that was Teveth instead, harrying and hounding the Spurs, there would be wet knickers about.

Even the press that normally are critical of Berbatov have given him marks for it. So when you start making claims that people are over inflating the contribution on Saturday, maybe, just maybe it's more of a case of your own biases trying to downplay it.

It was in a must win game and he played his part well. Lets move on and hope that he can continue that against Sunderland and Stoke.
 
Shimo said:
100% agree - anyone that is purely a Berbatov fan will think along those lines.

Those with first loyalty to United will see the performances for what they are.
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Those with first loyalty to United will support the fecking team and whoever Sir Alex picks!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Umm... I'm guessing you've never played football?

You know, it can be quite effective to draw defenders to you before releasing a pass. As we saw on Saturday.

Some of you 'tards are beyond help, you really are...
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Pogue, you're a great poster, you really are. But at times you sink into a really bitchy attitude with anyone who doesn't see things exactly your way.

Berbatov is under pressure for a reason, Phelan acknowledges it, so doubtless so does SAF, and there's a good chance Berbatov will go this transfer window.
 
redwhiteblack said:
Pogue, you're a great poster, you really are. But at times you sink into a really bitchy attitude with anyone who doesn't see things exactly your way.

Berbatov is under pressure for a reason, Phelan acknowledges it, so doubtless so does SAF, and there's a good chance Berbatov will go this transfer window.
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He did confidently predict that Nani would be off last season, under similar circumstances.
 
Feed Me said:
Apparently, we've had an "average" midfield ever since Roy Keane fell from grace.

In the past two matches, Paul Scholes has been the best in the country. That comes after a season, where 80% of the time, he was excellent. Giggs was also fantastic before his broken arm. Fletcher needs no explanation. Carrick has had a poor season - he will pick it up though. Gibson has had a good break through year. Factor in Anderson and Hargreaves, plus one or two of the younger lads, and it's clear that we have good quality and depth in that area for next season.
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Good summary of our midfield. However some posters seem to use the apparent 'lack of a world class midfielder' as a means of circumnavigating the obvious deficiencies in our team caused by the inclusion of Berbatov. I've seen this level of denial somewhere else, but I can't for the cough RAWK cough life of me think where
 
I missed the 1st half of the Spurs game. But I did watch the 2nd. I noted a massive increase in effort from Dimi.

Between minutes 62 and 67.
 
Red Defence said:
Yer bumpin lad admit it.....bin watchin yer bump it fer a few days now.

Dunno why yer all still witterin bout Berb. Gi the lad a bit o peace fer fs an let im get on wi playin footy. :rolleyes:
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I do admit it. And I fully support giving him some peace and quiet to play footy.

evra said:
You're quite odd in these Berba threads A-Grade.
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I was joking mate. :D
 
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