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He didn't have to join 6th placed Utd over CL winners Madrid and Barca 2 years ago.
Shouldn't that tell you something?
A very good point.
He didn't have to join 6th placed Utd over CL winners Madrid and Barca 2 years ago.
Shouldn't that tell you something?
That he choose money over Madrid?He didn't have to join 6th placed Utd over CL winners Madrid and Barca 2 years ago.
Shouldn't that tell you something?
It wasn't even money since his contract was leakedThat he choose money over Madrid?
Truly, the only way United can compete withPepSpain is by offering stupid money
So the answer to your point that he might want to play for a more successful club is that he left serial winners Juve to join a Mourinho team who finished 6th and didn't even have CL football to offer.
Those are facts.
Don't go in summer, it's a furnace. Otherwise, recommendable.I've never been to Barcelona, I'm sure it's lovely.
The facts are we are in an even better position now since he joined!They were facts two years ago. The two years since then hasn't exactly been a sunshine story for him at club level.
The context is, what is more plausible:
Or
- Raiola going rogue and trying to arrange a transfer against the wishes of his client because it is a fact that pogba is irreversibly happy to stay in Manchester
- Raiola acting with the blessing of his client.
Eh, it's true enough that you were a surprise, but the rest of the post is incorrect. Barca never had any sort of agreement, and Madrid weren't willing to pay what United did. As Raiola said later on "Madrid didn't need Pogba. United did"Now you're just guessing to prove a point.
Utd got him out of left field.
He'd probably win more trophies, earn more money and get to play better football with better players in a nicer city if he moved to Barcelona.
Sure mate. Sure. Objective United fan believing that nonsense.Objective United fan.
When you throw in all the add-ons and image rights, it rounds up to the equivalent of ~€12-13M a year(after tax) Which was the figure Di Marzio reported at the timeIt wasn't even money since his contract was leaked
£165,588 a week isn't chasing the money now!
Barca did. They were caught meeting Juves representatives the year before and even posed for pictures together. It was election year and he was an election promise.Eh, it's true enough that you were a surprise, but the rest of the post is incorrect. Barca never had any sort of agreement, and Madrid weren't willing to pay what United did. As Raiola said later on "Madrid didn't need Pogba. United did"
It wasn't even money since his contract was leaked
£165,588 a week isn't chasing the money now!
Unfortunately yes.Like Coutinho? Suarez? Must be easy choice for them between Barca and Liverpool
I'm in a busy place, what he's saying?Very reliable. Great news
I'm in a busy place, what he's saying?
Yep, that football leak crowd..well...leaked it.Is that all Pogba is on? Hardly.
What Pogba told everyone last season, ignore the fecking media. He's happy here, hasn't asked to leave or for a pay rise.
They used his name for political reasons during the elections. Raiola played along. They never had any agreement with either Juventus or the player for the following season. They didn't even try to sign that summer because they already knew he was too expensiveBarca did. They were caught meeting Juves representatives the year before and even posed for pictures together. It was election year and he was an election promise.
Yep, that football leak crowd..well...leaked it.
Theres bonuses involved but thats true with any top player
Moratta confirmed they turned down an 80m euro bid from Barca yet 89m pounds was too much?They used his name for political reasons during the elections. Raiola played along. They never had any agreement with either Juventus or the player for the following season. They didn't even try to sign that summer because they already knew he was too expensive
Juventus sold him for €105+5M. Yes, €80M isn't exactly close. I think Barcelona might have been willing to pay Pogba the wages he wanted given their recent track record. IMHO it was the other way around for us. Transfer fee not a big problem but wage demands were. Which is why we didn't fight you for his signing -player agreed to the contract you offered and turned down ours(according to Di Marzio some €4-6M less per year after tax). We weren't willing to go that far, so it was pointless to even talk with juventus. British media made it into a circus all summer long, while spanish media, and especially those close to Perez, discarded Pogba pretty much within a week of Di Marzio breaking the news of Pogba to United, and Di Marzio himself went about all summer mentioning nobody was competing with United and the deal was doneMoratta confirmed they turned down an 80m euro bid from Barca yet 89m pounds was too much?
I mean, if we're using the logic that a club doesn't bid unless the player agreed to go there...
Sure mate. Sure. Objective United fan believing that nonsense.
Being unconvincing isn't the same as being lucky. Sure getting luck involved some luck but we weren't that lucky to hold that position most of the season due to pure luck.You can think what you like, but last season wasn't convincing. Let's see this season eh?
You can bet once the season starts they'll start shitting on him again.Why are all the oppo fans hanging around in here like flies around shit?
Thought they would want Pogba to stay considering how rubbish they say he has been..
It'd be funny to see everyone lose their shit even more, that's it. I'm not particularly bothered whether he stays or leaves given his performances these last two years - the only player I'd love to see leave United is De Gea and it doesn't look like that'll happen anytime soon, unfortunately.Why are all the oppo fans hanging around in here like flies around shit?
Thought they would want Pogba to stay considering how rubbish they say he has been..
If he continues to play like he did during the second part of last season, we'll have every reason to mate.You can bet once the season starts they'll start shitting on him again.
Yeah but hypocrisy is golden here. Once oppo fans heard he supposedly wants to leave he became a world beater.If he continues to play like he did during the second part of last season, we'll have every reason to mate.
Let's say Pogba is in the top 3 midfielders in the world right now. After the wc, his stock is rising.
Mourinho has not developed a great bond with our players yet. He didn't do himself a favor for publicly criticizing Pogba last season. Also criticized other players.
If Mourinho does not improve there may be a time when a decision will have to be made. Our flagship playet Pogba or aging, griping Mourinho. Let's just say that players would rather play for Pep or Klopp than for smirking Mourinho.
It is a fact. Mina was bought for around 10mil and sold for 30mil. Also, those "other" players you refer to either did not play in the WC or had a lukewarm performance. Pogba and Mina do not fit into either category so their values were inflated. You are just trying to ignore the facts to fit your narrative.That's not a fact and it actually tells you very little about the market because in the mean time other players move for "normal" fees.
According to Mundo Deportiva Raiola is trying to force a move to Barcelona before august 31.
Don't see it happining honeslty, but that would suck.
According to Mundo Deportiva Raiola is trying to force a move to Barcelona before august 31.
Don't see it happining honeslty, but that would suck.
According to Mundo Deportiva Raiola is trying to force a move to Barcelona before august 31.
Don't see it happining honeslty, but that would suck.
Di Marzio could have been led a merry dance again here
French media outlet RMC stating Pogba has no intention on leaving United and wants to stay and become a leader at the club..
Oddly enough it's not getting a mention?
Doesn’t adhere to the narrative that the club is imploding in on itself. Those with an axe to grind always drown out the people with more moderate sensible views.
Pogba though.
And I would have RNC as reliable more than anyone else for French playersFrench media outlet RMC stating Pogba has no intention on leaving United and wants to stay and become a leader at the club..
Oddly enough it's not getting a mention?