As a Liverpool fan I know you're used to seeing your best players be taken away. It won't happen at United though.
Di Marzio: Barca make bid for Pogba
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As a Liverpool fan I know you're used to seeing your best players be taken away. It won't happen at United though.
You are making it way too fun for them.
Liverpool fan?
Raiola getting ready to start throwing chairs around?
His "those who want to leave can leave" mantra always includes the stipulation that said player/players mustn't be getting sufficient gametime. Arguable with Martial, perhaps; not so in Pogba's case.
Both players look likely to stay now anyway.
It's a relief to see posts like these.
May be so, but when we signed Pogba, he said he was coming home, after leaving Juve, so it looked like he was where he wanted to be.
Why not sort things at your job like grown men, discuss it with your boss, and try to sort it out?
Agreed. Were running out of time in this respect. I have no idea how we've managed to keep De Gea all this while. There's a weird disproportionate between how good he has been and how good we have been.
One thing I've always wondered is how these situations change their relationship in and around training etc? What does Pogba say if Jose confronts him in the corridor about it? Is Lingard in Pogba's ear telling him to stop the bullshit? Would be interesting to know.
Issue here is that we heard about Pogba's Barca interest just after the world cup and the supposed meeting with Abidal in Miami or wherever,.
To be honest with you, I would like to see him stay for 10 years but we all know that he will be gone next summer (unless Mourinho leaves and a better coach comes).
Madrid will look for a Kroos/Modric replacement, as Barcelona continue their midfield spending.
We know that sooner or later, Pogba will leave as he is unable to make us top of the league and will leave because of Mino.
I would rather wait for next summer, replacing him properly and kicking Mino's a** far from this club.
But IF Pogba pushes for a move now, it will be clearly a big blow as the market closes in three days and we won't be able to replace him.
To be honest with you, I would like to see him stay for 10 years but we all know that he will be gone next summer (unless Mourinho leaves and a better coach comes).
Madrid will look for a Kroos/Modric replacement, as Barcelona continue their midfield spending.
We know that sooner or later, Pogba will leave as he is unable to make us top of the league and will leave because of Mino.
I would rather wait for next summer, replacing him properly and kicking Mino's a** far from this club.
But IF Pogba pushes for a move now, it will be clearly a big blow as the market closes in three days and we won't be able to replace him.
He posted a video having fun with Bailly..
I'm pretty sure I've never said that Pogba was crap or anything of the sort. Having said that, I don't think he's looked like an 89 million pound midfielder either. Just like how you've been harsh on Van Dijk (and will probably do the same towards Alisson), when a player has a world record price tag thrown on them they get treated differently. It's not all his fault. United have had an identity crisis post Ferguson and I think that's continued with Mourinho.
You'd be mad to sell him though. Commercially he is probably your most important player, and it sends out the wrong message if you start selling high profile players to Barcelona. United should be looking to build their side around Pogba whilst trying to figure out how to get the best out of him.
Usually when you've got a club like Barcelona sniffing around one of your bigger stars it's because they've been given the impression that the player wants to move clubs, so maybe Pogba would like to leave. It's not a completely unreasonable thing to say.
Ask him how on earth Pogba is worth less than Dembele.
The show pony is going to leave, he doesn't have the grit or the botttle to stick out and carry a club. If not this season, the next. The only thing you hope for is to get adequate enough replacement because without him, Lukaku and Sanchez are going to be chaisng cobwebs while our midfield and defense are playing hot potato next to our own box.
How is it?
It gives security to Pogba for 6 years knowing he will earn ridiculous wages. All a player has to do is go AWOL these days to get their move, even if it delays it by a transfer window.
It's true. The alarm bells would be ringing much louder here if we didn't have De Gea as a one man defense. Last year, despite our good defensive record, we were pretty mediocre defending as a team - we only ended up with the 2d best defense in the league because of good ol' Dave. We gave up 11.89 shots per game last year, 7th fewest in the league, and 1.12 expected goals per game, only the fifth best in the league (behind City, Chelsea, Spurs, and Pool). Without the transcendent brilliance of Dave, we would have finished mid-table. Things must improve, or we will lose our stars to elite teams.
IF Barca were to offer Dembele and Mina with cash then thats surely worth looking at as long as we can sign Savic,surely in that scenario the team is absolutely improved!
Go awol and it kills your marketing appeal, its why you see few superstars actually do it.
Utd are stupidly comfortable, just look at this summer if these stories are true. We simply said no and that's that.
Pogba would have to go to extreme levels to get a move anytime soon and thats the agents fault.
His contract was already out of date 12 months after signing it and it still had 5 years to run!
Did anyone really expect this not to happen? as long as Raiola is his agent it'll happen every season, no matter where he plays.
It's time we stuck it to Barca. Offer Umtiti 300k pw and do them like PSG did when they fecked around with Veratti.
We out to buy every class midfielder in Europe! and then some more!.
I can't believe this is a serious thing.
You mean paying the 500M on his clause?. Thank god we renewed him before the World Cup
I can't believe this is a serious thing.
You mean paying the 500M on his clause?. Thank god we renewed him before the World Cup
That was from Bailly!
You must have missed my earlier post in the thread asking for you not to sell Pogba. As for Rob's post I can only assume he meant it would be hilarious losing him because YOU lot rate him. A bit like snatching Baldrick's turnip and chucking it in the river.
How many years did Ronaldo have on his contract before his move to Madrid, Suarez signed a new contract just before he moved to Barcelona. Van Dijk had a five year contract before he signed to Liverpool. The length of a contract means nothing these day. It's just in place to protect the value of the player if a transfer has to happen.
Whether United fans like to admit it or not we aren't anywhere close to winning the league let alone the Champions League. Top brackets players will always look at Real and Barcelona, especially if they're foreign. If he wants to leave he will eventually get his move. But Barcelona will have to pay up, just like they did with Dembele and Coutinho (they have shot themselves in the foot with what they paid for those two).
It's an easy story to write as he hasn't come back from training when Jose has called upon players to return to help the club. I'm not sure he really wants to leave. Di Marzio gives credit to the story but I think he's been relatively poor this summer. He was made to look stupid with his Benzema rumour.
Let Pogba slide on now as long as Barca are fleeced for every penny. He will huff along with martial and drag everyone else down with them. Road the both of them.
Organise a loan for SMS from lazio with option to buy as per some article I read today as he is every bit as good as Pogba with no doubt a better ‘head down ass up not bothered about hair colour attitude’.
They just don’t make many French footballers like cantona or uncle pat anymore...
Organise a loan for SMS from lazio with option to buy as per some article I read today as he is every bit as good as Pogba with no doubt a better ‘head down ass up not bothered about hair colour attitude’.
They just don’t make many French footballers like cantona or uncle pat anymore...
If we have another shit season, he’ll push for it next summer. Can’t see him staying for his contract unless we start competing for the highest honours and most likely Jose going.
This is why a bit of tasteful rival wumming is so difficult these days. No point dangling bait when you regularly have united fans jumping the shark on it themselves.
Yeah can only see this being bad news for Mourinho.
If it comes down to a clash between Mou and Pogba, the board will go with Pogba every time. He's their meal ticket, as Gorilla Monsoon would have said.
But Liverpool and Utd didn't flat out refuse to sell their players.
Sir Alex promised Ronaldo a move and Suarez was shown the door because of the WC feck up.
Utd do not want to sell.
I’d imagine Woodward is slightly concerned that two of our most marketable players and fan favourites are at odds with the manager. He hasn’t exactly been a wonderful success, so it wouldn’t surprise me if we aren’t much better this season if Woodward pulls the trigger.
Again, if a player desperately wants a move, he'll get it rather sooner than later.Liverpool FC - Statement August 11 said:
When media, pundits turned against pogba last year, Jose was supporting Pogba all along until Seville match!!
Even we were all complaining about Pogbas attitude in big games Jose was on Pogba side !!! So what is this falling between two of them ?
He isn't going anywhere. Not this summer and not this late of window. Next summer could be different thing but if he does, we will get from him 3 seasons and make profit like 40-80M.
I think we'd agreed to sell Suarez before that World Cup. I think he'd been given assurances as far back as December 2013 that he'd be allowed to go in the summer.
That largely depends on him as well though. He's one of the 2-3 biggest stars of the team, arguably the biggest, but he hasn't performed to that level. In both his two seasons he's shown his talent only sporadically and he hasn't performed consistently well.
First year he was eclipsed by Herrera in midfield. Second season he missed 2 and a half months through injury, came back in November missed another 3 matches due to his red card at Arsenal and then from January on-wards he both played very badly and argued a lot with Mourinho to the point where he got dropped for McTominay.
Of course it's normal wanting to win trophies, but his own individual performances are not deserving of that so far. He's not performing above his teammates and being held back, if you will. I mean he can always go to Italy and walk the league with Juve, if it's trophies he wants, but since he decided to come to the Prem he must have known how competitive and hard this league is and how much you have to graft for a trophy.
Personally I want him to give us one or two seasons of his best self. Two seasons of total focus to the team cause. I'm not talking about haircuts and superficial stuff like that, I'm talking about being focused and mature on the pitch and doing what his manager tells him. At the end of that period if he still wants to leave, then he can bring a good offer and he can go.
This is not rant btw
Realistically i dont see us winning anything this year so most likely Pogba will be off at the end of the season anyways.
I dont blame him, he could play for Barca, Juve , Real etc where he is almost guaranteed to be winning titles.
What a bunch of loathsome cnuts. More than a club my a*se.
Let's make an offer involving Darmian for Messi + Dembele.
Let's make an offer involving Darmian for Messi + Dembele.
Or the board could heavily invest in the team leading to us actually challenging for the league and champions league then the chances of Pogba and De Gea leaving are greatly lessened.
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