Declan Rice | signs for arsenal

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My honest feeling is that if Rice and Caicedo were both available and both wanted to come to Chelsea, we would choose Rice. But Rice doesn’t want Chelsea anymore. There’s no reason Chelsea would let Arsenal have a free run at him for so long, if there was a chance Rice would accept a move to Chelsea. We would have been in there and it would have been a bidding war.
I know it shouldn’t be a factor, but I do wonder how much Mount leaving has an impact on Rice’s decision not to want Chelsea anymore. May be a reason why Rice chooses city over Arsenal too.
 
So are City going to bench Rodri for Rice or is Rice going to follow the same career path as Kalvin Phillips? Can't see Pep starting both Rodri and Rice. Too defensive.
Rice will play where Stones has been playing. Stones has done great but rice would be more suited. Stones will probably drop back into the back 3 with Walker potentially leaving.
 
Don’t get the move for City. Rodri is arguably the best in the league at sitting right in front of the defense and controlling matches from deep. So why spend £100m or more on Rice who occupies the exact same area? When you’ve also just spent £50m on another DM in Phillips who they don’t even use.
Rice can play the Gundogan role, as for Phillips that £50m can be covered by a couple of fake sponsors and leave him sat on the bench
 
I still think we bid using Mctominay once the price is settled.
I think they'll just buy Scott when they've sold Rice, I don't see us ever spending what they want before selling:

a) more players
or
b) the club
 
I still think there will be another twist. This isn’t over.

Also I can see us bidding adding player plus money like people said once the price is set.

It will be up to Rice then to decide.
 
In a more attacking team that enjoys more possession and higher quality colleagues he'll be 20 goals/assists a season.

He strikes the ball well, is excellent at carrying it on driving runs - his main limitation is a range of passing and how quickly he moves the ball at times.

Last year he had the highest number of 'progressive carries' of whatever it's called in Europe at one point, and was alongside Lanzini in the top 5 for pass accuracy, ball retention.

He's a very good player and not quite what many outsiders seem to think.

He's a full all-rounder who , with goals, would obviously be stratospheric in price. If he adds the goals, £90m-£100m will look cheap.
I don’t know that he’s 20 GA/s player but time will tell as he’s obviously going to end up in a more attacking team.

Guaranteed he’s got a fantastic engine and can drive with the ball. I’ve got slight question marks about him at a technical level, but seems like Arteta, Ten Haag & Pep don’t…..and they probably know a bit better than me
 
Arsenal moving from Rice to Caicedo doesn't really drop their level at all IMO so if I was an arsenal fan I wouldn't be too concerned. Be interesting to see what Pep does with Rice if they do get him. I don't see him as anything other than a 6 (or that Stones role), though I guess stones is 29 so maybe that's part of the thinking... I dunno, just seems a weird one. Though I guess they did get Grealish to sit on the bench for a year so not a whole lot different to that.

Yet there'll be people on here claiming that City don't have like 7 subs who'd all start for every other team in the league.
 
Is this how helpless other teams felt in the early noughties?

We would beat them on the pitch. Not in the transfer window. Once the Chelsea takeover by Abramovich happened, we were no longer the biggest sharks in the transfer market.
 
If he goes City then he will do the John Stones job.

Rice won't replace Rodri.

Walker leaves I'd say.
 
fecking City.

Win the treble then drop hundreds of millions on players they don’t even need.
 
These lot lose Gundogan and possibly Silva, so they just go and replace with the most coveted CM in the market. Every move they make turns my hate for the Glazers up a few notches.
 
He'll be a bargain in City's accounts for sure.
 
City are like Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how good they are or how much they win, they continue to strengthen and improve. That's something we've never been able to do since the Glazers took over. The decline of our team in Fergusons last few years in charge was sad to see. Didn't even bother replacing Ronaldo with anyone decent
 
City are like Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how good they are or how much they win, they continue to strengthen and improve. That's something we've never been able to do since the Glazers took over. The decline of our team in Fergusons last few years in charge was sad to see. Didn't even bother replacing Ronaldo with anyone decent
This is revisionist at best. Ferguson use to say this every other transfer window. Best example was the fact that we won the league in 07 and went out and bout Hargreaves, nani, Anderson and tevez and won the CL following season. Bought berbatov the season after that too.
 
If City and Arsenal want Rice I don't see him choosing a move to United over either of them.

The only thing that might change his mind is that Mount is one of his best friends but I don't think that will be enough to convince him to turn down staying in London with Arsenal or bigger wages and more chance of success at City.
 
This is revisionist at best. Ferguson use to say this every other transfer window. Best example was the fact that we won the league in 07 and went out and bout Hargreaves, nani, Anderson and tevez and won the CL following season. Bought berbatov the season after that too.

Our team sheets in his last few seasons could look pretty laughable for one of the richest clubs at that time I think was the posters point. Not in 07/08…
 
Tuchel, Pep, Arteta, Ten Hag seem to rate Rice more than the fans whilst the fans & arguably less quality or quantity rate Caceido.
 
If City and Arsenal want Rice I don't see him choosing a move to United over either of them.

The only thing that might change his mind is that Mount is one of his best friends but I don't think that will be enough to convince him to turn down staying in London with Arsenal or bigger wages and more chance of success at City.

I don't see him choosing anyone but City. It does look Edu has fecked this one for us but OTOH it would've been quite simple for City to get the word to him to hold on for them and then this would've always been the outcome anyway.
 
McTominay + Maguire + ca 45 m sounds pretty good to me. Provided EtH thinks Rice + Casemiro is the pair we need. You could question the creative passing element of that pairing.

In any case, signs are Rice has his mind set on Arsenal.
 
City are like Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how good they are or how much they win, they continue to strengthen and improve. That's something we've never been able to do since the Glazers took over. The decline of our team in Fergusons last few years in charge was sad to see. Didn't even bother replacing Ronaldo with anyone decent

Good point. I've been saying this for years. You rebuild from a position of strength, not when the team is aging and on the slide. City understand this and Guardiola is pretty adept at moving players on. United, on the other hand, have twice in my lifetime allowed great teams to age, stagnate, and fall away.
 
Good point. I've been saying this for years. You rebuild from a position of strength, not when the team is aging and on the slide. City understand this and Guardiola is pretty adept at moving players on. United, on the other hand, have twice in my lifetime allowed great teams to age, stagnate, and fall away.
from memory i think it took 3 years for Ronaldo's money to be spent. Listen its game over if City has entered as they always get their man, or its another Ronaldo moment.
 
Reminds me of Henderson. A player who would has served us well through that period over some of the others we brought in. Worth 100m plus? 80%of those under 15 who follow the PL would mention rice as a player for their club to buy…surely surely a scouting dept can beat this!
 
City are like Real Madrid. Doesn't matter how good they are or how much they win, they continue to strengthen and improve. That's something we've never been able to do since the Glazers took over. The decline of our team in Fergusons last few years in charge was sad to see. Didn't even bother replacing Ronaldo with anyone decent
They’re not strengthening though. They’re about to lose two of their most important players
 
Don’t get the move for City. Rodri is arguably the best in the league at sitting right in front of the defense and controlling matches from deep. So why spend £100m or more on Rice who occupies the exact same area? When you’ve also just spent £50m on another DM in Phillips who they don’t even use.
They're trying to prevent a strong rival from obtaining a important upgrade to their team. It's a tactical move they're attempting.

Arsenal under the Kroenke's are susceptible to having their transfers hijacked and the blame will be placed on Edu but when you're up against the likes of City and even Chelsea backed by Sheikh Mansour and Roman/Boehly, you will have problems completing deals efficiently.
 
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from memory i think it took 3 years for Ronaldo's money to be spent. Listen its game over if City has entered as they always get their man, or its another Ronaldo moment.

Ronaldo, or Alexis.... I think they also wanted Bellingham. They do not always get their man.
 
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