Errrr... you may want to visit the Telles thread for the latest on that
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Dean Henderson | Sold to Palace
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We'll have Hendo crying on the bench then. Great.
It’s because our players are on too much money. Henderson is on a big contract and would need to be one of the highest earners at Forest if they sign him.
Look at Martial. His performance merits a lower PL team at best he’s fecking shite and always injured yet he’s still here because he’s probably worth 60k a week and we’re paying him 200k+
Look at Martial. His performance merits a lower PL team at best he’s fecking shite and always injured yet he’s still here because he’s probably worth 60k a week and we’re paying him 200k+
I hope you don’t run a companyIt's what to expect when you do things in the wrong order
Don't include him, we have Heaton, Onana and Kovar (plus maybe Suzuki?).
The only way to get out of this crap situation of over inflated wages is to show we are prepared to pay amd not use them but it will seriously jeopardise their career.
I understand the message you are trying to send but we shouldn't go out and spend on Suzuki when we have Hendo rotting in the reserves on his wages.
I'd ideally like Onana, Heaton and Kovar but it looks like ETH planned for it to be Onana, Heaton and Suzuki. If we can't sell Henderson, plans will change again. Hope we get it over the line.
To be honest, Forest have played a blinder here. If we were smart we'd have sold Dean before we bought Onana, now we've bought Onana they know we aren't going to keep Dean so they've tried to sneak a loan in instead of buying. Shot ourselves in the foot really.
It’s like all the football clubs in the world got together and made a secret pact. Everyone is allowed to get paid on the market except us. City pulling in £120m for undebuted academy players while nobody wants to pay us for an England international keeper.
If we weren’t smart we would have sold Henderson before signing Onana and placed all our eggs in one basket with Onana. Inter would have known this and refused to budge on their valuation. If Onana talks broke down we still have Henderson.
Selling Henderson before buying would have been mad and was never going to happen
It’s probably agent driven too. I’m pretty sure Forest are getting advised they can do the deal this way. If it’s a loan we should require a premium on the fee as we won’t be collecting the funds upfront.
Eitherway any deal below £25m is a bad deal for Henderson.
Hardly? Saw we sold Henderson first for 20 million we were in an even worse situation with another goalie gone and then Inter demanding more money for Onana? We've absolutely done it the right way round, they are just having the brass neck to ask about a loan deal like West Ham did.
They aren’t the only club out there and they must know a loan takes Dean to a year left in his contract which collapses his value on top of that.
It’s a ridiculous offer
Getting fed up of no feckers wanting to give us money
Loan again the cnuts. The one guy I thought we get decent money for as well.
It was funny all those amounts people had us making in sales this summer. If we even make £25m in total I’ll be shocked.
Forest have called our bluff by waiting for us so it looks like they will save a lot of money again. Did they even pay all his wage last time?
It was funny all those amounts people had us making in sales this summer. If we even make £25m in total I’ll be shocked.
Forest have called our bluff by waiting for us so it looks like they will save a lot of money again. Did they even pay all his wage last time?
Exactly. Crazy to even think we should have sold Hendo before getting Onana.
Anyway, in this instance, either it's a loan with obligation to buy or they can get fecked. Even if it means sending Hendo on loan elsewhere.
Do you sell your house and live on the road while waiting to find out if your offer on the new house was accepted?
United did nothing wrong with the onana transfer.
Certainly seems that way. But honestly, everyone is hell bent on taking us to the cleaners whether it’s buying players or selling them. Even if our players are internationals and have plenty of experience in the league itself, nobody is willing to buy them or cough up even some decent money.
Forest do have to balance the books a bit after their spending in the last couple of windows so if we are getting a permanent deal from them for Elanga I could see a loan with an obligation to buy for Henderson. Could well be they would like to sign him but can't make it work in this window and it still helps us if we get his wages off the books now plus a loan fee and have a guarantee of a sale next summer at an agreed price.
Not really, he will just stay as number 2 and we won’t need to purchase another keeper. They are taking the piss trying to loan him for the 2nd time. This isn’t some kid looking for minutes
So long as a loan with obligation counts towards some form of FFP reprieve then I'll be all for it. I don't want a sulky, potential leak-machine in Henderson sticking around.
£20million now for both of them, with a £20million obligation for Henderson by the end of next season.
Obligation or get the feck out.
They can absolutley do one with the loan offer.
I wouldn't be so fast to dismiss it. The simple fact is that we don't have another bidder and Forest do have other options. I do not want this moaning, whinging, fecktard lingering around the place like a bad fart. His value won't increase sitting in the stands as our 3rd choice keeper and running down another year of his contract.
Just get the feck out
Not really, we'll just tell them to feck off and if they really want him they'll buy him.
Just offer him to every Premier League side with a 20% discount offer from the one Forest was ready to make before we got Onana.
Henderson is a good keeper. They can feck off with that loan offer. We’ll sell him to the championship on the cheap before accepting that
If Forest only want to Loan him after having a year to look at him up close, it doesn't say much about Henderson.
But no doubt if/when United turn the move down he will use it as fuel to hate the club even more.
But no doubt if/when United turn the move down he will use it as fuel to hate the club even more.
Meh, probably just Forest being cheapskate as a posturing move. They’ll cave.
Well a legacy of Woodward handing out 200k+ contracts to everyone and their mum.
Signing some academy kid for £15m and paying them £40k a week is far more palpable than paying someone £200k a week and no fee. Over 4 years that's £23m total cost vs £40m.
So if Forest offer a loan fee of say 3M plus covering his wages with an obligation to buy for 15M next summer you would tell them to feck off and sell him to a Championship club for probably 5M max if we are being ambitious? Not to mention the fact he is never giving up his 100k a week wages to play for 10k a week and there is no way that egotistical little weasel would drop out of the PL.
No one said obligation, I’m talking straight loan here. It’s stupid to let him run down his contract and reduce his fee.
The fact that cost is being used to justify and not ability is probably the problem. Players like Henderson should cost more than an academy players because they have proven their worth.
If we seriously allow a loan deal for Henderson to a club who have already had him on loan last season it will be the most inept move this board has done.
Or there’s not a single other team in the world interested, which I find hard to believe. Someone will be happy to take a PL quality GK who will play for at least the next 5-10 years for around £20m.
I dont want him around either but I think Id rather selling him even cheaper than have Forest get away with chancing their arm with a loan.
Loaning with obligation to buy will only affect FFP for next summer right?
Exactly and if on the off chance nobody else wants him i would let him sit on our bench for two years rather than roll over to Forest like this.
We need to stop letting teams play us like this, it's beyond a joke now.
I don't buy forest are skint we all know if we let them have Henderson on loan again they will then go out and sign 30 million on a french full back or someone
They are negotiating in bad faith, Henderson is being a d#*k with seeking to maintain an u realistic wage that he chanced on because of an incompetent previous structure. So I say feck them both, break all lines of communication with them, bring Henderson back and threaten to freeze him out for the remaining two years if he can not find a club willing to take him for a fee. If Forest aren't going to buy then there really is no point in dealing with them.
No more loans for him, just a full buy out or the freezer for him. This is agent driven in the hopes of driving his fee down or eventual free agency.
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