That's not how FFP works...unless United have decided to pay the entire transfer fee for Mount and Onana in one lump sum this summer.
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That's not how FFP works...unless United have decided to pay the entire transfer fee for Mount and Onana in one lump sum this summer.
Think £20M is probably just about right. Maybe a couple of seasons back he would have been worth more, but while Forest seem to like him, his stats were poor last season and I doubt many other clubs do.
Unfortunately, yet again, our lack of decisiveness comes back to haunt us. Once it became clear we were keeping DDG we should have sold him while his stock was high after his great loan at Sheffield United. Or kept him and saved ourselves on most of DDGs £20Mpa salary. Either would have been fine, but doing neither just wasted another X million squid.
Unfortunately, yet again, our lack of decisiveness comes back to haunt us. Once it became clear we were keeping DDG we should have sold him while his stock was high after his great loan at Sheffield United. Or kept him and saved ourselves on most of DDGs £20Mpa salary. Either would have been fine, but doing neither just wasted another X million squid.
Don't they still have Navas on their books? Surely he's still better than Henderson.
Navas was only on loan and nah Navas was alright for them but had a fair few ropey moments too
20M is a fee for people who negotiate on the clubs behalf being bad at their jobs. He's English, premier league proven and is in a decent situation contractually. James Trafford totally untested in the highest domestic tear has gone essentially for the same amount to Burnley.
It's not the worst deal but it's still nowhere near being a good one.
It's not the worst deal but it's still nowhere near being a good one.
He should be going for at least £30m but considering how shite we are at selling £20m wouldn’t be the worst deal in the world.
Using City outgoings as a benchmark isn’t really fair. The numbers are bent.
£20m plus £5m in add-ons and a 20-25% profit sell on clause I think is fair enough for all parties.
He’s on far big wages than Trafford.
Well it's obviously not just about the transfer fee when you look at the total cost of a signing. Burnley are apparantly offering Trafford a 40k per week contract while Henderson is on a 100k contract that any buyers surely has to match for him to sign. Over a period of e.g. 4 years (contract length) that difference equates to roughly 12.5 million, meaning that Henderson will be a significantly more expensive signing then Trafford..
Onana will be 1st choice and Henderson has to go to prevent him causing toxic environment in the dressing room again.
His ego is much bigger than Maguire
His ego is much bigger than Maguire
20m for an unhappy player who's ego is more outsized than some of the top talents in world football.
Can't complain.
Can't complain.
5 years ago if we were in the same situation this lad would have been the Utd #1
football at the top end has moved on and I’m glad to see us finally moving with the times instead of always being a few steps behind.
football at the top end has moved on and I’m glad to see us finally moving with the times instead of always being a few steps behind.
This has to be factored into it. No way a club will pay a bigger fee than 20m for him and pay him 100k a week. That's a 50m outlay on a keeper over a 4 or 5 year deal.
Huge, especially if you end up relegated, which could happen to Forrest.
I just checked and his contract expires in 2025. That’s 2 years left on the deal. I’d be remissed if I didn’t think he’s worth £30m!
Matt Hargreaves has done a good job ever since he’s come in. He needs to get that asking price up.
Matt Hargreaves has done a good job ever since he’s come in. He needs to get that asking price up.
The post you're quoting is wrong, but your explanation has nothing to do with FFP either. Transfer fee cash flow doesn't impact FFP accruals.
Hmmm maybe if it was a 1 year contract...hence paying the entire fee in one lump sum this summer?
Either way FFP isn't stopping United from buying more players this summer.
We shouldn't be accepting any less than 25m.
I agree. Surely this will be done very soon.
£20m plus some add ons is fine.
Really we should have given him a run as 1st choice if we cared about selling him on and knew DDG wasn't right but hindsight is hindsight. If you think about it, selling any academy player for anything close to that level (especially one who doesn't seem to have a future here) is good business.
Really we should have given him a run as 1st choice if we cared about selling him on and knew DDG wasn't right but hindsight is hindsight. If you think about it, selling any academy player for anything close to that level (especially one who doesn't seem to have a future here) is good business.
I’d be more than happy with £20m baring in mind Onana is rumoured to be about £45m-£50m
20m is a good fee considering what he earns and the fact that his contract expires in two years time meaning that we are fast approaching a dangerous time where we have give him away just to earn a fee if he stays one more season. Twenty million pounds if invested in South America, where our scouts identified Alvarez, Caicedo etc, could bring us someone with a lucrative upside - a project signing of sorts. Getting that much for a wantaway player who isn't as good as he thinks is brilliant.
£20m is decent considering his awful wages
Yup, just accept and move on. Yes we're shit at selling but these players are on horrific wages and that pushes the fee down.
Agreed. Take the money and run.
for FFP purposes it doesn't really matter how you make payment, that's purely a cashflow matter, all transfers are amortised over the length of the contract anyway.
Only on paper that’s true.
However your cash at bank and what you pay upfront will always be the actually reality. So that’s what they have to monitor. Obviously we always have the credit card too.
Full of good news today.
FFS! We won’t be shifting anyone on at this rate.
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I’m sure it won’t be hard to shift him. Who’s Sheffield United and Luton’s GK?
West Ham too.
West Ham too.
It's what to expect when you do things in the wrong order
Signing a GK when you don't have one isn't doing things in the wrong order.
No. We had to buy a new goalie.It's what to expect when you do things in the wrong order
I don't particularly care, it's up to him to find himself a move at this point. He's made his bed, if he wants to just sit on the bench all season, be my guest.
Luton don't have a no.1 keeper yet but for the price we will be looking for and his wages, there's no way Luton will go in for Henderson, apart from a loan deal on subsidised wages.
His wages would probably be an issue at Sheffield United too.
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I was going to say this. Luton are linked with Heaton but that signing don't make sense for us and Henderson will be way too expensive to buy outright.
A loan deal would be our only option.
No - selling Dean and then trying to negotiate a price for a #1 GK would have been doing things in the wrong order. We would have had minimal to no leverage in negotiations with Inter thenIt's what to expect when you do things in the wrong order
Yeah all we can shift is Telles for a pittence
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