Doesn't really matter, Barcelona wouldn't do a player swap Ter Stegen for De Gea. They aren't going to be interested in him.
De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal
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Perhaps top 20 in the world?
I see you've never watched him play then. He's nowhere near as far off as you think.Ter Stegen is better with the ball at his feet than the vast majority of keepers, if not the best. He's a quality goalkeeper to boot. De Gea is world class overall, but bang average with the ball on the ground, I can't see Barca wanting him over Ter Stegen for that reason.
Depending on whether it's important to you or not there's a number of keepers where De Gea looks light years behind in terms of distribution - Neuer, Ter Stegan, Ederson, Alisson. Maybe even Kepa at Chelsea as well (not seen a lot of him though)
So no major club would want him then? Guess we could live with him for another 5 years then.
Depends on the tactics really. He seemed fine on the ball under LVG. Not quite Romero but we didn’t look at our place, just less passing through the lines.
Statistically they all had similar stats before moving to possession based sides.
He doesn't give away possession for Spain unless Im missing something?
Not sure I dont watch a lot of Spain, you can see though regardless of what team he's in goal for he's no where near (technically) as good as those I mentioned
It would be interested to see how he performs post Mourinho if our next manager wants us to play out from the back more
If this is the case, then surely it must simply be about money, and not any desire to actually leave or concerns about the manager/transfers or whatever else. That’s promising for us. I’m sure we’ll get a deal done eventually.
Hopefully!
As much as I'll be happy if he signs a new deal, it does question his ambition though.
The best keeper in the world in his absolute peak years does seem to be coinciding with some absolutely mediocre years albeit at a top club.
The last contract he signed can be understandable with a look at the future ideas of the club w.r.t changes in management and new talent being ushered in after a tough transition but right now, the club doesn't seem to be anywhere near a league title let alone competing at the highest level in Europe. I don't see that changing in the next 2-3 years at least unless we massively improve our squad (maybe a discussion for another thread).
And considering all this, if he does decide to stay, with the big bucks still being a guarantee to come his way, in a neutral way, I do feel he is missing out on establishing a legacy the likes of Schmeichel, Buffon, Casillas etc got to make for themselves. Sure, there are still a hell lot of years ahead of him, but another long term contract would be odd at least for me to digest.
Him being snubbed year after year with some of the top awards and not being immediately recognized as the top GK in the world in many arguments outside the Man United fold is a bit disappointing to see.
Hope the point being made is not taken into some passionate argument or comparison of the love for club among various fans. Cheers
The best keeper in the world in his absolute peak years does seem to be coinciding with some absolutely mediocre years albeit at a top club.
The last contract he signed can be understandable with a look at the future ideas of the club w.r.t changes in management and new talent being ushered in after a tough transition but right now, the club doesn't seem to be anywhere near a league title let alone competing at the highest level in Europe. I don't see that changing in the next 2-3 years at least unless we massively improve our squad (maybe a discussion for another thread).
And considering all this, if he does decide to stay, with the big bucks still being a guarantee to come his way, in a neutral way, I do feel he is missing out on establishing a legacy the likes of Schmeichel, Buffon, Casillas etc got to make for themselves. Sure, there are still a hell lot of years ahead of him, but another long term contract would be odd at least for me to digest.
Him being snubbed year after year with some of the top awards and not being immediately recognized as the top GK in the world in many arguments outside the Man United fold is a bit disappointing to see.
Hope the point being made is not taken into some passionate argument or comparison of the love for club among various fans. Cheers
His agents probably feel he shouldn't be earning less than Sanchez.
I'd say the majority of the squad probably feel that way.
Watching the double save (twice!) by Ter Stegen vs Seville (4-2), it still amazes me that he's not considered the BEST GK in the world by a long margin...
De Gea became a different man during/after the WC...
De Gea became a different man during/after the WC...
Some talk of Navas going to Juve. If that happens then Dave's only realistic option is PSG. Hopefully these feckers are hit by a severe transfer ban before the summer.
Someone mentioned last night that Sergio R & B were throwing him under the bus for the first goal. I agree that he should have rushed out but as a teammate you shouldn't be saying it in public. Sign of things to come if you leave for Spain/France/Italy, Dave. That would never happen at United.
Someone mentioned last night that Sergio R & B were throwing him under the bus for the first goal. I agree that he should have rushed out but as a teammate you shouldn't be saying it in public. Sign of things to come if you leave for Spain/France/Italy, Dave. That would never happen at United.
Eh?
Rio Ferdinand used to lambast VDS when he made a cock up on the pitch or didn’t come out for a cross in front of everyone. I’m sure Dave got that treatment from him too. I miss having players like that.
De Gea has had big weaknesses throughout his career.
At his best he’s the best shot stopper in the world – Maybe the best I’ve ever seen but his confidence is rocked at the minute.
Where I think he falls short of the best is his lack of aggression in coming out and dominating his area. He’s not only well behind the top keepers in that regard but well below average. He improved a bit when he filled out physically but is still susceptible to being caught on his heels. He rarely gives away penalties or gets caught off his line but that comes at a greater cost IMO – he faces far more good chances as a result. That Gundogan goal vs City is immediately shut down by a top keeper – Everyone blamed Matic and the defending but De Gea was unbelievably late in closing the distance – It was his mistake. It’s a weakness and I think teams have been exploiting it all season – We’re conceding a lot of goals from the same sort of areas.
Fully agree with this.
Dave is reluctant to get off his line, which in the PL isn't too much of a hindrance, but in Europe & at international level definitely is - he needs to improve that part of his game imo.
Our players need to communicate with each other more, maybe then they'll have a better understanding of what everyone else is doing and take accountability for their own actions.
Reacting on the pitch is fine, so is a hairdryer in the dressing room. I'm talking about the blame game in post-match interviews, that's unnecessary.
It's been a massive problem in most PL games.
I agree. Just like Jose's manner of setting his team up is conservative, so is De Gea's manner of being a goalie. A goalie who comes off his line like a sweeper relieves defenders for balls played over their heads.This in turn gives them more confidence to push higher.
I wouldn't say most PL games, but this season more than any other it has affect us & him more frequently.
That's because his shot stopping isn't as good as previous seasons at the moment. Despite 1-2 amazing saves, he's been a bit off colour, almost like he plays for Spain.
Shot stopping is his only strength. He is below average or even mediocre at everything else. So if he is not making amazing saves, he appears a very ordinary GK.
I agree with this and have said it for a while actually. He doesn't command the box, his communication isn't great, and his physicality is pretty poor.
Add that to our timid defenders and no wonder we have such a dysfunctional defence.
I've come to terms with him leaving, our whole defence needs a drastic shake up, and we need to move towards a sweeper keeper.
Some of the things I’ve read about ter Stegen in here...
He’s top 5 in the world for me, in a little bracket underneath Dave and Oblak.
He is also the very best in the world with his feet, just ahead of Ederson.
On DDG, Dave’s the best shotstopper in the world and one of the best I’ve ever seen, going through a bit of a rough patch right now but he’ll be back. I’m desperate for him to stay.
He’s top 5 in the world for me, in a little bracket underneath Dave and Oblak.
He is also the very best in the world with his feet, just ahead of Ederson.
On DDG, Dave’s the best shotstopper in the world and one of the best I’ve ever seen, going through a bit of a rough patch right now but he’ll be back. I’m desperate for him to stay.
If he's stayed in England this long, then he's more likely to sign a new contract. I'm sure he's just holding out to make sure he's paid as much as possible. I'm sure he will be the highest paid GK in the world, if he is not already.
We all know what you've said, Judas
If he does leave season after next, hope we give Henderson a fair chance. Might need a season in the Premier League before he's fully ready but he's flying high at the top of the Championship for Sheffield United and has been amazing for England U21's.
I see your point but you can just as easily turn it around and praise his ambition for staying and helping bring back the club that has built him up into one of the worlds best to where it can compete for the biggest titles again. For example I think winning the PL after going through this shitshow that the club is currently in would surely be a greater accomplishment for him compared to making 2 saves/month in Juve or PSG and getting the winners medal at the end of February every single year.
With that name he needs to be outstanding to win over the united fans.
Loads of revisionism in this thread because of a dip in form following four or five years of brilliance.
How would the keepers that DDG is now being negatively compared to fare behind our shambolic back line?
We need to sort the team out ahead of Dave, not worry about his so called deficiencies.
How would the keepers that DDG is now being negatively compared to fare behind our shambolic back line?
We need to sort the team out ahead of Dave, not worry about his so called deficiencies.
I hope this too. Not convinced Pickford is that great tbh.
How is he with the ball in his feet? I've not seen anything from him this season, but I was impressed with him previously and rate him high.
I think you're massively underrating the Italian league there. Lots of excellent teams, just that Juventus' are the best.
Let me be controversial. De Gea is the crutch or band-aid which allowed the Glazers to justify not spending too much on new players. Without De Gea, we would be shipping goals like nobody's business and the Glazers would have no choice but to spend.
Lol the we havent spent money brigade again
Yeah no.
We really haven't.. Just the most expensive striker in the league. The most expensive midfielder in the league. 50+m on Martial, Di Maria and Fred.. Sanchez is probably the highest paid player in the league.
If only we had more money to get in better players.
It is pretty impressive what we have managed to do on a shoestring budget
Not that simple. This is not a Jose vs Glazer thing. I think both have done badly actually. What I mean is that the interest of the Glazers is to make United sufficiently successful to draw in advertising revenue. De Gea does such a good job that they can do it with minimum spend. I am saying they don't spend, just not ambitiously enough. As in spend to overhaul and not limp by with no fat at all in case an injury crisis hits.
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