De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal

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First off, I reckon De Gea is not gonna sign and will go next summer.

Main reasons? Well firstly, I reckon the 3 amigos is getting dismantled next year. Herrera will return to Bilbao, Mata somewhere in Italy or Spain. Secondly his girlfriend Edurne is a TV personality in Spain and hasn't moved with him from Madrid. He'd be in Manchester without his mates and without his girlfriend. Thirdly we've failed to capitalise on his presence all these years, in terms of bringing any significant success.

Inter Yer Nan said:
PSG will more likely go for Oblak. He'll be a lot cheaper and the thing with Dave wasn't necessarily a preference of Real over United (he's an Atletico) but moving back to Madrid. I think for him it was Real Madrid or Manchester United and now he's settled three more years in Manchester.
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I reckon we'll go for Oblak and we'll offer De Gea back to them to sweeten the deal.

Atletico Madrid have actually established themselves in Spain as a big club now, only half a step behind the giants. They finished top 3 in the last 6 seasons. Hell, they've had more success than us in that period. They have a new stadium. They managed to keep their big stars and recruit big too.

Griezmann
Diego Costa
Koke
Saul
Lemar
Gelson Martins
Godin
Gimenez
Oblak

..that's arguably as good or better team than ours. He might have to take a pay cut but he'd be at living home, with his family and girlfriend around him, playing for the club he supports, and with no less chance of success than what he has here.

It'd make total sense for him and we'd not be in a bad spot with Oblak too.
 
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Adisa said:
Says who? He would have a year left on his deal while Oblak has a 100m release clause.
Until Dave signs a new contract, his future is far from secure.
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theriddler said:
In the case De Gea didn't sign a new deal, he'd have a year to go on his contract. As great as he is, I don't see a keeper with a year to go on his deal costing more than 100 million, which is what Oblak's clause is.
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Like I said I suspect with De Gea it was as much about going to live in Madrid where I understand his girlfriend still lives. Obviously nothing is set in stone until he signs an extension which I am very confident he will. He's also got form with making sure United don't get screwed a.k.a he wouldn't pull a Coirtois.

I am relaxed about it and suspect he'll be signing a new 4+1 extension on a wage bump in the next few months.
 
MadMike said:
First off, I reckon De Gea is not gonna sign and will go next summer.

Main reasons? Well firstly, I reckon the 3 amigos is getting dismantled next year. Herrera will return to Bilbao, Mata somewhere in Italy or Spain. Secondly his girlfriend Edurne is a TV personality in Spain and hasn't moved with him from Madrid. He'd be in Manchester without his mates and without his girlfriend. Thirdly we've failed to capitalise on his presence all these years, in terms of bringing any significant success.



I reckon we'll go for Oblak and we'll offer De Gea back to them to sweeten the deal.

Atletico Madrid have actually established themselves in Spain as a big club now, only half a step behind the giants. They finished top 3 in the last 6 seasons. Hell, they've had more success than us in that period. They have a new stadium. They managed to keep their big stars and recruit big too.

Griezmann
Diego Costa
Koke
Saul
Lemar
Gelson Martins
Godin
Gimenez
Oblak

..that's arguably as good or better team than ours. He might have to take a pay cut but he'd be living home, with family and girlfriend around him, playing for the club he supports, and with no less chance of success than what he has here.

It'd make total sense for him and we'd not be in a bad spot with Oblak too.
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I think Mata will go but if Herrera may stay another season provided he features enough this season. I'm sure Dave has more friends at the club too.

I think they are much better than us but suspect they can (at a push) only offer half of what we will offer him. I also don't think they will desire that swap that much considering how good Oblak is and how popular he is with his team mates and the fans. Only if Oblak agitates for a move but that seems far fetched that there's a possible Oblak-De Gea swap. I think they'd be powerless if someone really wanted Oblak and it would be his decision whereas I think we have more control over Dave's destiny.
 
MadMike said:
Main reasons? Well firstly, I reckon the 3 amigos is getting dismantled next year. Herrera will return to Bilbao, Mata somewhere in Italy or Spain. Secondly his girlfriend Edurne is a TV personality in Spain and hasn't moved with him from Madrid. He'd be in Manchester without his mates and without his girlfriend. Thirdly we've failed to capitalise on his presence all these years, in terms of bringing any significant success.
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They're his mates within the club, but if you look at his non-United social media activity, he's usually spending time with other people that aren't Ander Herrera or Juan Mata. I would doubt Mata and Herrera leaving would have any impact on his desire to stay or leave. He was at the club a few years before either arrived.

The 2nd one is the biggest factor, most likely.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
I think Mata will go but if Herrera may stay another season provided he features enough this season. I'm sure Dave has more friends at the club too.

I think they are much better than us but suspect they can (at a push) only offer half of what we will offer him. I also don't think they will desire that swap that much considering how good Oblak is and how popular he is with his team mates and the fans. Only if Oblak agitates for a move but that seems far fetched that there's a possible Oblak-De Gea swap. I think they'd be powerless if someone really wanted Oblak and it would be his decision whereas I think we have more control over Dave's destiny.
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On the first bit, I don't think that matters, If De Gea decides to go and doesn't renew we can always trigger Oblak's release clause. Offering him back to Atletico as part of a deal, is to basically circumvent the hassle of triggering release clauses and ensuring everyone gets a good deal. We get a top keeper, they get a top keeper, De Gea returns to Madrid and Oblak gets a financial windfall.

On the second bit, we have 0 control if he doesn't sign his contact. We'd have to sell next summer or lose him for free the one after.

Ultimately all this is just in my head. It's just how I feel it will go. And with regards to money, he's set up for life and he'll still be getting millions per year for another decade at Atleti. I don't think it'll be that important to him now. Otherwise he'd move to China or something.

EDIT: Herrera is 100% gone, imo. We signed Fred and renewed Fellaini. He can't play the Pogba role (in case Pogba goes) and Pereira is being nurtured for the Matic role. He's literally been made surplus to requirements this summer and I think both sides know it. Otherwise he'd already been offered a contract.
 
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MadMike said:
On the first bit, I don't think that matters, If De Gea decides to go and doesn't renew we can always trigger Oblak's release clause. Offering him back to Atletico as part of a deal, is to basically circumvent the hassle of triggering release clauses and ensuring everyone gets a good deal. We get a top keeper, they get a top keeper, De Gea returns to Madrid and Oblak gets a financial windfall.

On the second bit, we have 0 control if he doesn't sign his contact. We'd have to sell next summer or lose him for free the one after.

Ultimately all this is just in my head. It's just how I feel it will go. And with regards to money, he's set up for life and he'll still be getting millions per year for another decade at Atleti. I don't think it'll be that important to him now. Otherwise he'd move to China or something
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He could have let his contract wind down in 2015 and go on a free (I think Real wanted that) but didn't. My guess is that he'd do the same again.

I'm very relaxed about it personally. in 2015 I gave him next to no chance of staying, I was about 50/50 in 2016 and then since then I've grown more and more confident he's here into his 30's. I'm at about 95% now which obviously means nothing ha but it's just how I feel.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
He could have let his contract wind down in 2015 and go on a free (I think Real wanted that) but didn't. My guess is that he'd do the same again.

I'm very relaxed about it personally. in 2015 I gave him next to no chance of staying, I was about 50/50 in 2016 and then since then I've grown more and more confident he's here into his 30's. I'm at about 95% now which obviously means nothing ha but it's just how I feel.
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Well, I hope you're right but I feel 95% the opposite right now.
 
Unless something big happens in terms of us actually becoming a force again, I don't see him staying.
Honestly can you blame the guy?
 
Ballache said:
Unless something big happens in terms of us actually becoming a force again, I don't see him staying
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This is what I worry about, can anyone seriously see us improving on last year because I can't (as much as I'd like to say differently).

Once he does see we aren't going forward this season surely he's going to look around and think I need to be winning league titles and challenging for the CL every season.

I can remember seeing a few months back that apparently he had agreed to a new 5 year deal then it all went quiet, anyone know what happened after that?
 
This window isn't exactly going to make him think we're trying to win major trophies.
 
Seems like there's been a briefing. All my worries of De Gea leaving in the near future left as soon as Courtois signed for Madrid.
 
What are his options? Athletico who will not pay as good as us or PSG

Safe to say, he will stay with us for atleast 4 more years.

Surprised ,he hasn't been considered for captainship
 
This is like the third time we've been confident since last season began.
 
If it's Stone reporting it then I'd say it's come from the club themselves, hardly surprising. It's been discussed to death but there are very few options for him in the near future who would pay as well as we do, PSG has been touted but they'll probably end up going for Oblak now. He's been our best player for about half a decade now, he should be at least on similar wages to Sanchez, our most consistent and easily our best player, excellent news if he signs.
 
Wonderful news, but isn't he already the highest paid GK in the league?
 
DesiBD said:
Wonderful news, but isn't he already the highest paid GK in the league?
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Depends, there have been a lot of high profile keeper signings since his last extension: Kepa, Alisson and Ederson could all potentially be on more money currently.
 
Madrid signing Courtois is probably the best transfer for us this summer, as now it's a cert that De Gea is here to stay, if there were any doubts before. Only potential place would be returning to Atletico one day, which I doubt especially as they generally have quality goalkeepers anyway. Wonder how long he'll stay at the top level. Hes at 316 appearances for us currently, seems to average between 45-50 apps a season, is 27 now. Another 7 seasons would put him to 34 which is still normal for a goalkeeper, and that's another 315 apps so hed be on 630 (or 5th on our all time appearance list). Think he'll go down as our greatest goalkeeper of all time since he'll stay far longer then any other too probably.
 
AltiUn said:
Depends, there have been a lot of high profile keeper signings since his last extension: Kepa, Alisson and Ederson could all potentially be on more money currently.
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Unlikely that any of them are getting the £200k per week that DDG is getting. GKs are typically not top earners. I think he's still the best paid GK in the league and probably the world, by some distance.
 
Obvious being briefed by the club. Very very good news if it's true. For my money if De Gea keeps this up he'll of been our best ever goalkeeper.
 
JMack1234 said:
Obvious being briefed by the club. Very very good news if it's true. For my money if De Gea keeps this up he'll of been our best ever goalkeeper.
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IMO despite the lack of titles we've had during his time here, if he gives us another 4/5 years he isn't far off "legend" status for me.
 
AltiUn said:
IMO despite the lack of titles we've had during his time here, if he gives us another 4/5 years he isn't far off "legend" status for me.
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For me, the fact that De Gea has played in relatively poor teams for the majority of his Man Utd career makes him in line to be the greatest we've had but i'm sure this debate will rumble on for a little while...
 
bosnian_red said:
Madrid signing Courtois is probably the best transfer for us this summer, as now it's a cert that De Gea is here to stay, if there were any doubts before. Only potential place would be returning to Atletico one day, which I doubt especially as they generally have quality goalkeepers anyway. Wonder how long he'll stay at the top level. Hes at 316 appearances for us currently, seems to average between 45-50 apps a season, is 27 now. Another 7 seasons would put him to 34 which is still normal for a goalkeeper, and that's another 315 apps so hed be on 630 (or 5th on our all time appearance list). Think he'll go down as our greatest goalkeeper of all time since he'll stay far longer then any other too probably.
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He’s probably very close to being the most appearances for a non UK/Ireland player at the club.

I already think he’s the best keeper we’ve had. I guess greatest and best is two separate categories but I would doubt there will be any debate to either 5 years from now.
 
Cutty said:
Once he does see we aren't going forward this season surely he's going to look around and think I need to be winning league titles and challenging for the CL every season.
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Thank you mystic meg. He stuck with us through Moyes and LVG and has repeatedly expressed his love for the club .

He's staying.
 
Sounds like speculative journalism now Courtois has signed for Madrid. Would it be that outrageous for DDG to say he wants to return to Atletico, or go to Barca? I hope he stays his whole career but realistically he hasn't yet signed a new deal, we had better get the paperwork ready sooner rather than later.
 
bond19821982 said:
What are his options? Athletico who will not pay as good as us or PSG

Safe to say, he will stay with us for atleast 4 more years.

Surprised ,he hasn't been considered for captainship
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He got the armband when Pogba got subbed, so probably he is the third captain after Valencia and Pogba.
 
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