Having kept more clean sheets than anyone else in Europe’s top five leagues this season it is safe to say De Gea is a match winner.
De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal
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Maybe just maybe you guys should try to make him feel loved . Works very well at Utd .
Deserves every single penny and I'd throw in some shares too. Easily our best player and one of the best players in the league.
Just give him the key to the city and be done with it.
After you said that he can't win us a game my suggestion is that you watch football some more. It's a simple game.
Or leave this thread cause you're having an absolute, absolute mare.
Haha, I banged my head with you whilst catching up on this thread.
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What if we have no shots on target, yet go 1-0 up by an own goal, and DDG makes 2 truly world class saves that no other goalkeeper in the world could make, who wins us the game?
You know what if we change the term 'wins us the game' and change it to 'who contributed most to the 3 points we gained', then does that change your answer?
He literally won us tens of games by keeping the ball out of the net in situations that 99.9% of the other top keepers in the world would not be able to. Look at our PL finishes in the past 6-7 years and easily drop us 3-4 places down each year if not for De Gea.
How is this even an argument?
How can anyone argue about GK winning a game or not after seeing what Karius did in CL final ? He literally led Liverpool to lose on his own.
RAWK loves downplaying the quality of our players and even there they acknowledge DDG is world class and we have been saved by him a lot of times. And then we have posters here claiming DDG has never won us a game/will never win us a game
Is it too soon to thank Ronaldo for embarrassing De Gea and by that curbing Madrid's interest?
Keeping Liverpool from winning the CL and helping us keep our best player in a span of a month. What a legend.
Keeping Liverpool from winning the CL and helping us keep our best player in a span of a month. What a legend.
He isn't the highest paid GK, Neuer earns more than him.
But true fans will remember. Like any other magnificent saves he made before to bail United out.
Fair to say he won't be going to Madrid this summer.
Thank goodness, although I doubt he was ever really interested in Madrid after the fax debacle anyway.
The state of some... He's been our best player for years. Then he has a couple of bad games for Spain and some of you think he's average?!
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Dont think anyone said hes average. Average for Spain though is putting it nicely tbh. My main thing is I'd struggle to defend him being the best goalkeeper in the world now, which he was for the last 4 years of club football IMO. Doesnt really matter in the end, thank feck hes still ours and if anything this just makes it more likely he'll stay for good.
It just sucks for his reputation. Has the talent to go down as one of the all time best goalkeepers, but flopping for his country will keep him only a club level legend.
He keeps flopping on the world stage = great club level keeper, but for example the likes of Buffon don't even put him in the top 5 active keepers. It will always come to haunt him in keeper discussions and it's hard to defend for us even though we are blessed with him performing well for our club. It's not just been 4 matches either.
For me, De Gea is excellent, possibly the best, in one particular area, but is still lacking in many of the aspects of what you may demand from a modern keeper. Execellent shot stopper, very poor at leaving his line, and average distribution of the ball and command of his area. He still can improve a lot. Behind a better defence, the weaker aspects of his game would be more magnified.
Seriously?He is now the same age as Schmeichel was when he joined us.
So he is best years are ahead of him and hopefully he can improve the few weaknesses he has.
I'm delighted he's had a bad tournament (by his standards). It'll only put Madrid off and ensure he stays in Manchester, where he looks 10x the player he does for Spain.
Take advantage of the situation and change it to a life time contract.
Booo, overrated, not good enough, get rid
Why would any of that bother you ? Unless your from Spain what does it matter if he performs well for them or not.
Messi doesn't light up the world stage, does that make him any less of a player ?
Why should we defend it ? Being the best in the world or not, it's a matter of perspective and not that important, only thing that matters is him doing the job for us.
What?
I'm not sure I agree with you on your reasoning because De Gea's goalkeeping style is very different to Schmeichel's and probably more vulnerable to ageing. But I still think signing De Gea up to a new 5 year contract would be our best piece of business this summer by miles.
It bothers me in the sense that I genuinely thought of him as the best keeper in the world but I have no defense against the fact that he hasn't been very good on the world stage and done very little for us yet in the CL (partly because of our own failure).
Anything discussed on here can be dismissed as perspective and matter of opinion. Maybe you don't care for this particular matter, but I take a mild interest since he is our player and as a supporter I want my bragging rights every now and then.
Theres a difference between having areas he could improve on and making out he's me in goal though.
I've never heard him descibed as a simple shot stopper until 2 weeks ago.
Even then he had less errors than other EPL keeper that led to goals (by the end of April I think) which couldn't be IG he was only a shot stopper? Is nobody exploiting his weaknesses or something?
Funny that!
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I myself always counted Neur ahead of him due to better international and European level for Germany and Bayern, and De Gea came close second for me, but even Neur had a terrible tournament as well and was reduced to a joke in South Korea second goal.
Most important thing is him doing well for us, being best from second best is just a moral victory or loss imo. The fact that he is in contest for being the best in the world is enough for me.
And anyway, De Gea is still only 27, he still has enough time to put in better performances with Spain and with us in CL when we improve in it and start reaching more advanced rounds. The guy still has at least 2 World Cups to play as GKs play for a longer time. With more experience on world level he will become better and less nervous. This is his only second tournament for Spain after all.
Usually the list goes Neuer, DDG, Oblak right? Neuer hasnt played this season, Germany was trash and he almost cost them a goal by letting a bal go. DDG made a big mistake against Portugal and Oblak isnt there.
We can still claim DDG as best keeper in the world.
He's playing in goal for the worst Spanish team in over a decade (maybe since 02). Add the team infighting, the manager being sacked, and the Catalan issue into the mix and the fact that no player played well for Spain over four games and it's hardly surprising.
He's outperformed every other goalkeeper at higher levels than this for half a decade. International football is not the pinacle of the game. Also, De Gea isn't suited to a tiki taka team who can't score goals. Casillas and co played behind one of the best international teams of all time. De Gea's Spain is good on paper but actually in crisis both in football, personal and political terms.
He played bad. They all did. Who cares? He's still the best keeper in the world.
Very well put @Mciahel Goodman.
What if he cameback & turn shite for us as well ?
He's my favourite Utd player, but his antics at the penalty shoot-out really got on my nerves. Kudos to russian players who kept their cool.
We’d be relegated?
DDG is ours and would not trade him for any other keeper in world football.
Just like any other player in any other position, he can improve on many areas. He can improve on his penalty stops, distribution of the ball (though I don't think he's that bad) and most importantly, for me, he needs to improve on leaving his line and commanding of his area.
Just like any other player in any other position, he can improve on many areas. He can improve on his penalty stops, distribution of the ball (though I don't think he's that bad) and most importantly, for me, he needs to improve on leaving his line and commanding of his area.
That's like asking what happens if Messi goes back to Barca and is shite for them as well?
Some players just cant reproduce their club from for for their countries, England's 'golden generation' made a career out of it in fact
What antics? Must have missed it.
I for one don't care where he's ranked in terms of 'all-time goalkeepers', only that he performs well for United. However the club/country thing is a similar situation to Messi at international level, he has constantly underperformed and shown he is not capable of producing his club level form for Argentina. Does that hinder him in discussions and is it hard to defend him too?
De Gea is the Messi of goalkeepers, he does things that no one else can even if he isn't statistically the number 1. A DDG fan would say 'it's obvious he is the best just from watching him' whereas another view might be 'Neuer is better because he has won more/has more clean sheets etc'. Nothing about this world cup will affect DDG's standing as the best GK in the world currently.
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