Unless, of course, he already has a deal with some other club who would want him now rather then in 12 months time. Its not uncommon for players to start acting out when they want out.
De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal
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Unless, of course, he already has a deal with some other club who would want him now rather then in 12 months time. Its not uncommon for players to start acting out when they want out.
I hope the club doesn't just cave in to demands because of Sanchez wages but at the same time people dismissing the importance of a world class keeper need to refresh their memories to the horror show post Schmeichel till we got VDS.
Romero seems decent but I'm not sure how good he would be over the season.
Romero seems decent but I'm not sure how good he would be over the season.
To me it just starts to feel like a robbery. Plenty of decent Goalies out there that will fill the void if he leaves.
I dont get why people feel the need to desperately search around for excuses rather than just explore the possibility that he's just not that good.
Given he's been the best goakeeper in the world for three or four years prior to this season, and that his only slump to now has been this year, it's fair to say that he is the best goakeeper in the world going through a bad patch rather than vice versa given respective time periods.
Therefore wouldn't now be the time to strike with the new deal, to further his loyalty and love for the club by showing "faith" to a player who has actually already more than proved himself anyway? Particularly while other clubs are too wary of his current form to line up with enticing competing offers for him to barter with. Let's face it, peak De Gea would already have Real Madrid, Juventus, PSG throwing £80m at you while we speak.
Even if he's asking for the market value of his peak performances rather than now it's a worthwhile investment given his form can comfortably be projected to improve again considering all historical harbingers.
Therefore wouldn't now be the time to strike with the new deal, to further his loyalty and love for the club by showing "faith" to a player who has actually already more than proved himself anyway? Particularly while other clubs are too wary of his current form to line up with enticing competing offers for him to barter with. Let's face it, peak De Gea would already have Real Madrid, Juventus, PSG throwing £80m at you while we speak.
Even if he's asking for the market value of his peak performances rather than now it's a worthwhile investment given his form can comfortably be projected to improve again considering all historical harbingers.
This is a chance for the club to make a statement. They have made a mistake with Alexis understood it and learnt from it.. do not exceed the offer and Ed has to tell his agent this deal or find potential suitors.
I admire De Gea and for what he has done for this club, if he wants a final pay day - it won't be here, we have seen signs of decline in DDG. The outstanding reach and reflexes meant where he lacks in command of penalty area and distributions are forgiven. A top form DDG would have got us top 4, because his mistakes came against Chelsea and Arsenal.
The club have shown loyalty in offering him a contract to be the best paid goalkeeper. If he cannot accept that, sell him.
I admire De Gea and for what he has done for this club, if he wants a final pay day - it won't be here, we have seen signs of decline in DDG. The outstanding reach and reflexes meant where he lacks in command of penalty area and distributions are forgiven. A top form DDG would have got us top 4, because his mistakes came against Chelsea and Arsenal.
The club have shown loyalty in offering him a contract to be the best paid goalkeeper. If he cannot accept that, sell him.
Pretty big gamble to take, if clubs are handing out £500,000 a week to a player in the 'hope' that they rediscover their form then the game's gone.
Not fussed about him leaving, I don't think he is as great as he has been perceived over the past 4 seasons, he's a good shot stopper during a period where for a United goalkeeper he is kept uncharacteristically quite busy which I think actually is a benefit for him as I feel his concentration during matches is suspect, plus is distribution is not great, he doesn't command his penalty area from long balls/crosses/corners, he doesn't react to rushing out of his goal to clear a 50/50 chance to clear the ball before an opposition striker latches onto it and gets a 1-on-1 situation with him, he doesn't close down the angle for a striker in 1-on-1 situation and he's not an organizer or leader.
Agree 100%
Merely good, nothing more? Wow.
He's been the best shot stopper on the planet over the last 3-4 years. He was the main reason why United finished 2nd last season, and not 5th or 6th.
I'm not sure £500k is a definite figure, the one I see more often is £350k which in today's market wouldn't seem particularly extortionate for the world's best goalkeeper.
As for whether he is the world's best goalkeeper, or rather whether he will ever return to that form, I would ask you to look at previous examples of players who reached comparable levels to De Gea before perpetually declining in form to the same extent, and see if any can't simply be grouped into one of physical deterioration, temperament or change in circumstance (such as joining an unsuitable club). Then look at the endless examples of players who suffered prolonged poor form before recovering, for example Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez, and consider which category De Gea is more likely to end up in?
Fair point, using the word great would have been a better choice of words when describing his shot stopping ability
Admittedly I'm exaggerating a bit to make a point (although who knows what the actual figure is and I have heard £500,000 a week being thrown about).
Either way, its serious money for a goalkeeper that there is currently question marks about.
I totally get your point about form/decline but I would argue that a whole season of terrible performances is a little more than just 'bad form', if any of the players you mentioned performed that badly for a full season then doubts would appear about their status, of course it would.
In fact, some of the errors De Gea made towards the end of the season were so bad that they were the equivalent of an outfield player missing an open net.
If any outfield player, never mind the likes of the players u mentioned, did that 5/6 times over the space of a few weeks the way De Gea did (especially in massive games like it was) then serious questions would be asked.
How do our fans react though?
Make up excuses for the player and beg him to stay by insisting we pay him more.
As I said, is it any wonder we are a bang average side right now?
He's been great and he will be again.
But if he's not committed then it's time to cash in.
I don't see any other argument.
But if he's not committed then it's time to cash in.
I don't see any other argument.
And this season he was the main reason we finished 6th instead of 3rd or 4th.
Not Mourinho, not the clowns in defence, not the midfielders incapable of pressing, not the ones wasting chances in attack. It is precisely DDG who did cost United a CL spot
What's the point of writing stupid posts?Not Mourinho, not the clowns in defence, not the midfielders incapable of pressing, not the ones wasting chances in attack. It is precisely DDG who did cost United a CL spot
Key word MAIN and not SOLE
I think the Board are right to play hardball in these negotiations. He’s been made a very generous offer by all accounts and we can’t keep pushing the wage bill up by giving in to every demand. It’s not as if there’s likely to be a big queue lining up to sign him. His dream of Real is unlikely to happen with Hazard and Eriksen/Pogba seeming their priorities. PSG are likely to hit an FFP brick wall sooner, rather than later. Who is going to pay £60m or so plus the wages he is demanding. Even if he sees his contract out i’m not sure there will be many takers.
Problem is, a decent keeper will cost 60mil+ and demand wages in line with what DDG is asking for.
Looks at Kepa, Alison etc.
So pay DDG 350 a week and save on an extremely high fee for a keeper who may or may not settle and adapt to the PL anyway.
The less risk, less cost option is to give DDG 350 a week. He deserves it
If DDG requests a transfer, then that's different. We have to sell in that scenario. But word is, 350 and he signs. Its an absolute no brainer that we extend if he wants to stay.
We already have 8-10 players needed to be replaced before we lost the best keeper in the world!
The club is going to loose out on any transfer funds from De Gea, as he will just wait it out and sign for free for a club next year, De Gea still has a minimum 4 good seasons in him, Juventus, Real Madrid and PSG will likely be the takers,as Craig Ward mention above the likelyhood of De Gea requesting a transfer would then benefit the clubs transfer kitty.
Might make sense to cash in and spend it on Donnarumma. We'd get cheaper wages and a keeper that had many many years in him. With a new CB, LB and DM we could ensure we don't need the keeper to save us so much. Win all round
I dont know if Dave wants to leave because of $$$ or because he is ambitious. I do believe he wants to win things and compete for major honors. Who can blame him for wanting to go.
We've been stung before giving out massive contracts based on the past, and been lumbered. Not again please.
Yep. The last two months were quite worrying form wise and he didn't look up to previous season levels after a dreadful world cup.
Could well be the summer to try and sell.
A year is a huge time in football. Other clubs might not want to wait or go with the latest form guy
Absolutely, we already have Sanchez to try and offload, we don't need another Rooney situation right now.
Romero in the wings is very useful as it removes the obvious risk of any keeper we go for being quoted at even higher figures than de gea would fetch.
Romero is obvs a step down in class but id argue not against last year's de gea.
It’s probably time for a new challenge for him anyway. It’s not like he’s a homegrown player who grew up as a united fan, very nearly left once already and I think he is becoming stale here messing around trying to qualify for top 4 with a bunch of overpaid puddings most seasons since fergie quit.
Sadly he is better than all that and should clearly at his age now be regularly challenging for titles and contesting champions leagues finals before it’s too late.
Sadly he is better than all that and should clearly at his age now be regularly challenging for titles and contesting champions leagues finals before it’s too late.
Romero will be a very good replacement.
If De Gea does not want to sign or leave, just drop him. Not even on the bench.
If De Gea does not want to sign or leave, just drop him. Not even on the bench.
If a club that's actually going to challenge for titles comes in I wouldn't blame him for leaving.
Owes United nothing.
I don't think its about money for him at this state
Owes United nothing.
I don't think its about money for him at this state
Not Mourinho, not the clowns in defence, not the midfielders incapable of pressing, not the ones wasting chances in attack. It is precisely DDG who did cost United a CL spot
Surely then it works the other way around too where people can stop saying he got us 2nd instead of top 4 last year
I think it's time for us to move him on.
Yeah Romero would be perfectly good replacement, if we are to continue spiraling down to midtable.
Yep, I think he's an "excellent" short term stand in, and most likely "better" than every other team's 2nd choice, but for any extended length run we'd quickly see the difference in quality.
That's obviously versus De gea's top form, not whatever that last 6weeks of the season was.
What sort of revisionism is this? Because of his poor form last season? Come on man. You can say better...
Funny how a lost of form made De Gea seems like a joke here.
At least in caf.
At least in caf.
He should leave, its time. He has regressed, his focus has gone.
who would buy him if we put him up for sale
a club who could afford a fee and the wages De Gea is on.....
PSG is the only one that comes to mind
I've a feeling De Gea will run his contract down
a club who could afford a fee and the wages De Gea is on.....
PSG is the only one that comes to mind
I've a feeling De Gea will run his contract down
Nothing new.
Exactly, apparently he's allowed to be the only reason why we finished in a higher league position the last few years but he cannot be one of the main reasons we finished in a lower league position this year.
Any wonder his status is massively overhyped?
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