De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal

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If he leaves I hope we try a more modern replacement, a keeper who can play with his feet
Who passes to Smalling, who passes it back, then passes it to Jones, who gurns, falls over and breaks his leg.
 
I suppose you haven't seen the way Dean Henderson shocked the whole Championship this season?

There's a reason both boss Ole and Woodward are ready to let De Gea go on the right offer. That's just how highly they rate Henderson.

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Keep him a season and spend it scouting his replacement, there is a slight possibility we may have seen the best of him anyway.
Yeah was thinking the same. Sounds crazy given he's only 29 but given his game is all about reflexes, you wonder whether he'll endure as long as keepers like Schmeichel, Buffon, VdS etc.
 
It’s borderline hilarious how much he’s overrated on here (Romero). Not saying he hasn’t made a few decent saves, but he’s also had some absolute shockers. His kicking is poor (despite some people thinking he is actually good at this) he has a wonderful 57% pass completion rate this year. Mainly against lower quality teams who don’t press as much.

He may be more assertive than DDG for crosses, but that’s not necessarily a good thing when you can’t catch the ball well.

He hasn’t suddenly turned into a world class keeper by sitting on our bench, there is a reason he couldn’t get regular games for all the other teams he’s been at.
Crazy, isn't it? Romero's stocks were going higher with every blunder DDG made, despite not even playing. Apparently he's what it takes to be our #1.
 
Crazy, isn't it? Romero's stocks were going higher with every blunder DDG made, despite not even playing. Apparently he's what it takes to be our #1.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that Romero be United's number 1 goalkeeper for more than necessary. If De Gea doesn't sign a contract this summer, we'll be forced to sell him before he runs it down. I very much doubt we've been looking in the market for a replacement meaning any goalkeeper that fancies jumping ship from where they currently are and joining us over a weekend of talks most likely doesn't have the required quality to replace De Gea.

We'd be much better off giving Romero a run out next season and giving ourselves time to find a suitable replacement for January or next summer. It's literally only 9 months.

Just because people are suggesting something doesn't mean they way Romero to stay in next for the next 20 years...
 
I don't think anyone is suggesting that Romero be United's number 1 goalkeeper for more than necessary. If De Gea doesn't sign a contract this summer, we'll be forced to sell him before he runs it down. I very much doubt we've been looking in the market for a replacement meaning any goalkeeper that fancies jumping ship from where they currently are and joining us over a weekend of talks most likely doesn't have the required quality to replace De Gea.

We'd be much better off giving Romero a run out next season and giving ourselves time to find a suitable replacement for January or next summer. It's literally only 9 months.

Just because people are suggesting something doesn't mean they way Romero to stay in next for the next 20 years...

We we should have been and it's another oversight on our side.

Romero shouldn't be close to being our #1 for a full season.
 
We we should have been and it's another oversight on our side.

Romero shouldn't be close to being our #1 for a full season.
People might be overestimating Romero's ability, but it's not like de Gea has been his usual self this season. By his own high standards he's been poor. Not saying that Romero is necessarily good enough, but he would make an adequate stop gap for a season. Especially if we make the required signings to make us a better defensive unit.

Then - If Deano plays as well in the PL as he has done in the Championship, we can bring him back. If not, maybe Oblak or Donnarumma will be available next summer.

I think we have bigger fires (THIS summer) to put out than our GK situation.
 
We we should have been and it's another oversight on our side.

Romero shouldn't be close to being our #1 for a full season.
We wouldn't have bothered negotiating with De Gea if we didn't think he would stay, we'd have been in the market looking for his replacement instead. This summer's rebuild needs to be a big one without a goalkeeper as well, other areas of the pitch are more important at the moment.

We have suitable stand in's in Romero and Henderson, and if we address the defence instead either of them two won't actually have to do as much as they're currently expected when your CB's can't win a ball in the air or tackle anyone.
 
People might be overestimating Romero's ability, but it's not like de Gea has been his usual self this season. By his own high standards he's been poor. Not saying that Romero is necessarily good enough, but he would make an adequate stop gap for a season. Especially if we make the required signings to make us a better defensive unit.

Then - If Deano plays as well in the PL as he has done in the Championship, we can bring him back. If not, maybe Oblak or Donnarumma will be available next summer.

I think we have bigger fires (THIS summer) to put out than our GK situation.

Romero wasn't good enough to be Sampdoria #1, neither at Monaco but would be a good stop gap for us? De Gea lost us many points this year, but also was pretty good before that. Romero is several levels below him and has what 20 games in 6 years in the league ? We will create a big issue with our GK position which will drop us many points next year if we don't address it.

Just because De Gea wasn't up to standard it doesn't mean we should put average keeper on goal. Didn't we learn from Taibi, Carroll, Howard and the likes?

We wouldn't have bothered negotiating with De Gea if we didn't think he would stay, we'd have been in the market looking for his replacement instead. This summer's rebuild needs to be a big one without a goalkeeper as well, other areas of the pitch are more important at the moment.

We have suitable stand in's in Romero and Henderson, and if we address the defence instead either of them two won't actually have to do as much as they're currently expected when your CB's can't win a ball in the air or tackle anyone.

We should be doing both.

How is Romero suitable? On what basis? His last good saves were against Wolves in the cup where he was at fault for both goals. We need to rebuild, yet we will cripple the one position we had a world class player in the last 8-9 years?

Have we forgotten these shockers:

 
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Romero wasn't good enough to be Sampdoria #1, neither at Monaco but would be a good stop gap for us? De Gea lost us many points this year, but also was pretty good before that. Romero is several levels below him and has what 20 games in 6 years in the league ? We will create a big issue with our GK position which will drop us many points next year if we don't address it.

Just because De Gea wasn't up to standard it doesn't mean we should put average keeper on goal. Didn't we learn from Taibi, Carroll, Howard and the likes?



We should be doing both.

How is Romero suitable? On what basis? His last good saves were against Wolves in the cup where he was at fault for both goals. We need to rebuild, yet we will cripple the one position we had a world class player in the last 8-9 years?
Transfers aren't done overnight, they're a long drawn out process that take weeks or even months to conclude, if we believe or have reason to believe that De Gea wants or wanted to renew, we'd have no reason to spend time and effort chasing a target 'just in case' our current GK doesn't re-sign.

Plus, we're not that organised to have even planned for this scenario.

Some of the keepers you mentioned were fine stop gaps, that's all Romero will be. He will make the occasional mistake but with a better and settled defence around him he'll be fine for 6 to 9 months of the season.

You're acting like we're asking Jones to go in net for a year.
 
Transfers aren't done overnight, they're a long drawn out process that take weeks or even months to conclude, if we believe or have reason to believe that De Gea wants or wanted to renew, we'd have no reason to spend time and effort chasing a target 'just in case' our current GK doesn't re-sign.

Plus, we're not that organised to have even planned for this scenario.

Some of the keepers you mentioned were fine stop gaps, that's all Romero will be. He will make the occasional mistake but with a better and settled defence around him he'll be fine for 6 to 9 months of the season.

You're acting like we're asking Jones to go in net for a year.
Come on mate. With De Gea we had 5 years saga or something. More than enough time to prepare ourselves for a replacement and do the research. It's like you are saying we had no idea he will leave eventually which is simply not true. Disagree that transfers take months to complete, sometimes is pretty quick. Look at the deals already done before the transfer window opened.

It's ill prepared again from our side if we don't have replacement in hand. If you think dropping the standards from WC keeper to average one is ok, we have to disagree there.

As for the bolded - we are yet to sign a defender, but somehow our defence became better and settled... What we have done so far is resign Young and chasing de Ligt and Koulibaly - neither will really come to us. So with Romero instead of De Gea, I'd wager our defence as a whole will be weaker come the new season if anything.

And no - Taibi level of keepers are not good stop gaps for a club like United. Hull city - yes, but not United.
 
Must be a Spanish thing running down your contract and leaving on a free .

Henderson might be good enough going by the season he has had but then again he wasn't playing behind Smalling and Jones so it's hard to judge if he is good enough to make it here
 
Must be a Spanish thing running down your contract and leaving on a free .

Henderson might be good enough going by the season he has had but then again he wasn't playing behind Smalling and Jones so it's hard to judge if he is good enough to make it here
No I think we will see a lot more of it as its much more lucrative for a player to move with no transfer fee involved. I think its been instigated by the influx of money into the Premier League that means very few need to sell players to balance the books therefore can hold out for huge fees or just not sell the player.
 
Pains me to say it but I think we are going to end up losing him for nothing. The only two options right now are either he renews or leaves for free.. I mean why would any club want to pay when they are aware they could get him next summer for nothing? :nervous:
 
Ed needs to stop wasting time on this. Sell him and get someone in. This has been every summer now for the last 6 seasons.
 
He's been great for the club but the time has come to move him on. If he won't sign an extension then we dont want him hanging around then leaving for free. Give Romero a shot and give Henderson some game time too.
 
Sell him and get somone else- he owes us nothing and would command a good feed.

We need to refresh
 
Wasn't there a hypothetical "cut-off" date where players were told they either agree to stay around or agree to leave by that date. Remember something Ole mentioned.
 
Had enough of this. Held us to ransom for too long and he's already on one of the best deals in the world. I'm all for selling the guy for £50m to Paris, promote Sergio and see how this Henderson lad does in the PL next year and see where we stand after that.
 
Had enough of this. Held us to ransom for too long and he's already on one of the best deals in the world. I'm all for selling the guy for £50m to Paris, promote Sergio and see how this Henderson lad does in the PL next year and see where we stand after that.
What's he currently earning? £200k+
 
What's he currently earning? £200k+
Think a tad more but close enough to that yes.

A post I did earlier is roughly what other keepers at top clubs are earning (as per a google search but won't be far off), hence why I just can't justify him demanding £300k+ when Allison / Ederson are earning less than £100k p/w etc

Quick google search says
Ederson (City) £65k p/w
Ter Stegen (Barca) £90k p/w
Szczesny (Juve) £80k p/w
Allison (Pool) £95k p/w
Courtois (Real) £200k p/w
Neuer (Bayern) £150k p/w
 
Pains me to say it but I think we are going to end up losing him for nothing. The only two options right now are either he renews or leaves for free.. I mean why would any club want to pay when they are aware they could get him next summer for nothing? :nervous:

Because buying him now would beat the teams waiting for him to leave for free.
 
Think a tad more but close enough to that yes.

A post I did earlier is roughly what other keepers at top clubs are earning (as per a google search but won't be far off), hence why I just can't justify him demanding £300k+ when Allison / Ederson are earning less than £100k p/w etc

Quick google search says
Ederson (City) £65k p/w
Ter Stegen (Barca) £90k p/w
Szczesny (Juve) £80k p/w
Allison (Pool) £95k p/w
Courtois (Real) £200k p/w
Neuer (Bayern) £150k p/w

This is 100% inaccurate

I'm tired of this saga and more than ready for him to move on now. Football changing now with so many team using the sweeper keeper model, either we do that and play a high line like the successful PL team are doing or, at least, if we continue playing counter attack get a keeper who will dominate his area.
 
This is 100% inaccurate

I'm tired of this saga and more than ready for him to move on now. Football changing now with so many team using the sweeper keeper model, either we do that and play a high line like the successful PL team are doing or, at least, if we continue playing counter attack get a keeper who will dominate his area.
perhaps but you show go through 3 different websites fir each keeper and come up with a rough guide for keeper salaries and show me something else.

At least we agree he's not worth 300k right ;)
 
At least we agree he's not worth 300k right ;)
To be worth 300k, a goalie needs to be perfect. De Gea's passing, command of the box at corners, could be all be better. Lately his concentration must be questioned after a few mistakes he's made. Finally there are too many rumours of him leaving. If he's going to allow his his agent to spread rumours so he can hike his salary from very well paid to super high, then he's not putting the club & team first.
 
Jesus, not gonna pretend the blunders haven’t happened, but to say this is more than a year of continuous shit is just ridiculous.





Yeah, what an anchor he’s been to our team. Should have seen it coming Christmas 2017! FFS.

Short term memory of fans is an absolute joke!


It was this same mentality that got Rooney whopper new 5 year deal and bumper salary and he stumbled over the line to our scoring record in truly embarrassing form.

And its absolute plonkers like you who demand Woodward fork out whatever salary certain players demand of the club for performing better previously, its about the here and now and De Gea made a choice of refusing to sign a deal over a year ago. Put faith in his own form which fell off a cliff and we have folks saying nothing has changed, yes it has.

It's folks like you then that complain about mercenaries and bad attitudes in locker rooms, not surprised when we bend over and give into player demands so frequently.
 
Is he on the market yet? He's got his final contract offer, making him the highest paid keeper in the world. If he's not going to sign he needs to go this summer. Then the club can move on and get his replacement in asap.
 
Has to sign a deal or be sold this summer.
You don't let a 50m asset go for free.
 
Pains me to say it but I think we are going to end up losing him for nothing. The only two options right now are either he renews or leaves for free.. I mean why would any club want to pay when they are aware they could get him next summer for nothing? :nervous:

A year is a huge time in football and clubs aren't patient.

Otherwise why would madrid not wait a year for hazard?
 
If he wants out then say thanks and take 48m to buy another player. I'm backing Romero next season he's really a good keeper and deserves a chance even if he fights it out with Hendo. De Gea won't improve us next season on recent evidence.
 
It was this same mentality that got Rooney whopper new 5 year deal and bumper salary and he stumbled over the line to our scoring record in truly embarrassing form.

And its absolute plonkers like you who demand Woodward fork out whatever salary certain players demand of the club for performing better previously, its about the here and now and De Gea made a choice of refusing to sign a deal over a year ago. Put faith in his own form which fell off a cliff and we have folks saying nothing has changed, yes it has.

It's folks like you then that complain about mercenaries and bad attitudes in locker rooms, not surprised when we bend over and give into player demands so frequently.

I’m a plonker because I want to give the players who’s save our asses on countless occasions? OK, carry on with your narrow-minded views. The whole issue is based on the fact that the man has been the one beacon of true quality in our team and, despite morons like yourself who believe that he’s been a complete liability for the past two years, has still been pulling off world class saves and saving us points even during the poor spells this season.

It’s “plonkers” like you who fans see telling them they’re fecking shit after a few poor performances that make them think it’s not worth staying around for!
 
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