With the state we're in I kind of understand him... and to be honest, selling him and going with Romero while we see how Pereira and Henderson develop while at the same time focusing on the defenders. I honestly don't think it will be any worse than last season...
De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal
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papers are quoting 60 million, not sure we'd get that much but it would be around that figure, give or take. That would cover the fee for the full back we are linked with. We've a lot of areas we need to upgrade in, I'd rather get some cash than nothing for a player that doesn't want to be here.
The players we need to offload won't go. The players we need to stay, won't stay and to boot De Gea might go on free! And the players we need to sign are apparently not interested or their teams are adding a huge United tax to their fee. What a mess. Things can change in a hurry, momentum, signings, big name in and all that but for now, things look quite bad.
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Should be 2nd option next season. Keep him on the bench for Romero if he's willing to run down his contract.
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If DeGea, or anyone else wants to go then let them, sick and tired of players disrespecting my club, and I'm even more sick and tired of the club giving respect to players that don't want to be here.
He's the best goal keeper in the world, get him signed up.
I'm not sitting through another Bosnich, taibi, howard, carroll, foster, barthez horror show.
I'm not sitting through another Bosnich, taibi, howard, carroll, foster, barthez horror show.
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If I was him, I'd leave.
Leaving aside the money factor entirely, does he really want to stay for another few years of rebuilding and not challenging for the biggest trophies? It's one thing sitting through a barren spell if you're a young player but at 28 now would be the time to leave if he wants to win trophies. I'm not sure there's much more for him here.
If I was him I'd be thinking of the Real Madrid transfer that fell through and how they won something like 3 CLs and a La Liga title immediately after that. It would be a hell of a "what if?" moment to have in your career if you finish up having won relatively little.
Leaving aside the money factor entirely, does he really want to stay for another few years of rebuilding and not challenging for the biggest trophies? It's one thing sitting through a barren spell if you're a young player but at 28 now would be the time to leave if he wants to win trophies. I'm not sure there's much more for him here.
If I was him I'd be thinking of the Real Madrid transfer that fell through and how they won something like 3 CLs and a La Liga title immediately after that. It would be a hell of a "what if?" moment to have in your career if you finish up having won relatively little.
That's the only thing that could scupper a move for him this summer. Juventus and PSG will both gladly wait it out as well, they'll both fancy their chances in the free transfer market. We could do with someone like Madrid making a bid again to kick of a bidding war this summer.
Also can't see Juventus paying any money for him upfront, they'll happily wait.
At the end of the day, if it were me playing for United, I wouldn't care about what could have been elsewhere because I wouldn't want to play elsewhere. I can completely understand Dave wanting to go back to Madrid and he'd be daft to sign another contract with us at this stage. Makes sense for all parties that he leaves this summer.
Mark Bosnich. Wasn't that the doing of Edwards who got him on the cheap when Fergie wanted Van der Sar?
Seems we've reached stalemate here, I never thought id find myself saying this about De Gea, but if he doesn't want to sign maybe its time we cashed in on him this summer while we still can.
He's been an incredible keeper for us, won so many matches on his own i've lost count, and by all accounts has been a model pro.Yes, there was the fax business with Real,but he never sulked and came back into the team and his standards were top class.
A keeper as good as him, could/should have had more trophies than what h'es got with us, I for one wont hold it against him if he leaves.
Best shot stopper of his generation by a mile, h'es given us sterling service over the years.
Now, where do you find another one to follow him!
He's been an incredible keeper for us, won so many matches on his own i've lost count, and by all accounts has been a model pro.Yes, there was the fax business with Real,but he never sulked and came back into the team and his standards were top class.
A keeper as good as him, could/should have had more trophies than what h'es got with us, I for one wont hold it against him if he leaves.
Best shot stopper of his generation by a mile, h'es given us sterling service over the years.
Now, where do you find another one to follow him!
He’s easily one of our best players. The back end of this season just highlighted how the utter mess this club is in has affected the players.
I’m not suggesting we give him the Uber contract many suggest he is after, but I do think the club should do their best to get him to sign.
Romero is not our starting #1. Never has been and never should be.
Of all the players we need to shift this summer DDG is not one of them.
A good side with a coherent plan to improve play will see players like DDG and Pogba back to their best.
I’m not suggesting we give him the Uber contract many suggest he is after, but I do think the club should do their best to get him to sign.
Romero is not our starting #1. Never has been and never should be.
Of all the players we need to shift this summer DDG is not one of them.
A good side with a coherent plan to improve play will see players like DDG and Pogba back to their best.
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Supposedly DeGea is asking for 350 plus a week based on what Sanchez earns. Therein lies the problem of over paying. DDG is not worth 350 even on his best days, but he is definitely worth more than Sanchez.
De Gea has been in the conversation for world's best keeper for 5 odd years and people think you can just plug the gap with Romero or Henderson?!? Laughably short memories.
If he isn't going to sign and wants out, then it's best to let him go but the idea that it won't affect us is delusional.
If he isn't going to sign and wants out, then it's best to let him go but the idea that it won't affect us is delusional.
Keep him a season and spend it scouting his replacement, there is a slight possibility we may have seen the best of him anyway.
Im honestly gutted if this is true. The best player at the club for last 4 years (not this season obv.), arguably the best gk in the world. Truly, single handedly getting us as high up the table as we have been.
But i feel for him, imagine what he could have won elsewhere, with a solid defense in front of him.
Cheers Dave
But i feel for him, imagine what he could have won elsewhere, with a solid defense in front of him.
Cheers Dave
I don’t consider him a great or an important player, go with Romero you’ll not see any difference, probably improvements
Has been the worst player of last World Cup, and a disaster this season, his mistakes ala Karius costed us the top 4
Has been the worst player of last World Cup, and a disaster this season, his mistakes ala Karius costed us the top 4
Yeah he's not. He's been the best player at United and that's clouded people's judgement. He's possibly been the best close range/reflex shot stopper in the world for a long time but his all round game is poor. If we also had a better defence he wouldn't have had to make the saves he's made in the past, like you said.
I think we're going to find it hard to sell him. Goalkeepers that make costly mistakes don't go for much...
Sad to see DDG go, if indeed he does. Being the case I’d be happy to see Romero take the #1 spot. I reckon we’d struggle to find an available keeper better than Romero, he certainly deserves his chance.
Romero couldn't buy a game with Viviano and Subašić in front of him in the pecking order. Whilst Subašić is a quality keeper, Viviano?
People overestimate giving the #1 shirt to someone who has played handful of games in the last 5 years. He'll suck and will suck badly.
We would definitely need to buy a top keeper to replace DDG if he's to leave this year (and he should if he doesn't sign).
Just can’t see anyone buying him now for any sort of fee. Who needs him right now? Real Madrid might offer Courtois plus a bit of cash, but other than that I can’t see anyone prepared to spend £50m+ and meet his salary demands. Doubt RM would pay him anywhere near the wage he wants anyway. PSG - I reckon they will have their own FFP issue soon, so may not be an easy option either.
It’s borderline hilarious how much he’s overrated on here (Romero). Not saying he hasn’t made a few decent saves, but he’s also had some absolute shockers. His kicking is poor (despite some people thinking he is actually good at this) he has a wonderful 57% pass completion rate this year. Mainly against lower quality teams who don’t press as much.
He may be more assertive than DDG for crosses, but that’s not necessarily a good thing when you can’t catch the ball well.
He hasn’t suddenly turned into a world class keeper by sitting on our bench, there is a reason he couldn’t get regular games for all the other teams he’s been at.
Spot on!
Overall he's a world class goalkeeper, his recent performances will surely disappear next season. But he is already the best paid GK in the world, we are offering him better wages than those, he wants even more so we should sell him right now.
We are in a really shitty trouble with our wages since we have the worst negotiatiors in football world, we keep renewing underperforming players with improved wages so it's only natural that the best players like DDG ask for irreal wages but we need to stop with the nonsense, pay the players what they deserve and make them work harder if they want to improve their wages.
I understand we are in a rebuild and we need to keep our best players, but its easier to attract them by being a competitive squad rather than just offering more money everytime they want to leave. Giving De Gea the obscene amount he is asking for will only end up giving us more problems when we want to renew Pogba, Rashford, Lindelof, etc.
We are in a really shitty trouble with our wages since we have the worst negotiatiors in football world, we keep renewing underperforming players with improved wages so it's only natural that the best players like DDG ask for irreal wages but we need to stop with the nonsense, pay the players what they deserve and make them work harder if they want to improve their wages.
I understand we are in a rebuild and we need to keep our best players, but its easier to attract them by being a competitive squad rather than just offering more money everytime they want to leave. Giving De Gea the obscene amount he is asking for will only end up giving us more problems when we want to renew Pogba, Rashford, Lindelof, etc.
People still think RM will offer Courtois and he will come 
We need a decision made within the next couple of weeks, he can’t continue playing with his future up in the air.
Either sign on or sell him.
Either sign on or sell him.
He's a goner. Let him go, his head has turned and I don't think he'll be able to offer the level of performance we need. Was shocking in the run up to the end of the season.
I wouldn't be against signing someone like Tom Heaton or Kasper Schmeichel short term whilst we promote Henderson to backup keeper and get him experience in and around the first team.
I wouldn't be against signing someone like Tom Heaton or Kasper Schmeichel short term whilst we promote Henderson to backup keeper and get him experience in and around the first team.
It's for the bombing anniversary.
Realistically which club would want to get him?
PSG have strong squad, and have the money. They also need to replace Buffoon sooner than later. A better CL run is also useful with De Gea.
Juventus have the money, and a fine squad. Upgrading their keeper could help their CL attempt better.
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PSG have strong squad, and have the money. They also need to replace Buffoon sooner than later. A better CL run is also useful with De Gea.
Juventus have the money, and a fine squad. Upgrading their keeper could help their CL attempt better.
I think De Gea should sign the contract.
New Contract
2 years contract with roughly the same wages, a bit higher, but with release clause 60m or >40m activated summer 2020 to convince him to sign.
Why? Three reasons.
1. His reputation is so bad now, other top clubs likely won't be willing to splash the cash for transfer but more-so refuse to offer him high wages, or even if he's free, they may not even want to get him. So stay for one more season to impress and show he's still top class.
2. Financially, to help the club, get back at United, instead of zero sum to club by leaving for free, those clause would ensure at least those money club get would be useful for us to use. If De Gea really cares about the club that is.
3. To help smooth the transition. 2019/20 would be a trial season for our other keepers and a farewell season to De Gea.
New Contract
2 years contract with roughly the same wages, a bit higher, but with release clause 60m or >40m activated summer 2020 to convince him to sign.
Why? Three reasons.
1. His reputation is so bad now, other top clubs likely won't be willing to splash the cash for transfer but more-so refuse to offer him high wages, or even if he's free, they may not even want to get him. So stay for one more season to impress and show he's still top class.
2. Financially, to help the club, get back at United, instead of zero sum to club by leaving for free, those clause would ensure at least those money club get would be useful for us to use. If De Gea really cares about the club that is.
3. To help smooth the transition. 2019/20 would be a trial season for our other keepers and a farewell season to De Gea.
a. We should let Dean Henderson stay on loan at Sheffield(?) what his prev club is, so we get to see how he can handle EPL full season.
b. Our First Team keepers should be this:
If Romero pass and Dean pass, no problem for season 2020/21.
If Romero fail but Dean pass, same no problem.
If Romero pass but Dean is questionable, same no problem.
If both fail to convince and even the youth fail, simply we get a new keeper.
Also who knows, it's possible De Gea is back to his best next season and may have a change of heart -- wanting to stay longer with reasonable wages, so newer contract then.b. Our First Team keepers should be this:
1st - Romero and De Gea
2nd - O'Hara or Joel P or Kovar
3rd - Grant
Then, we let Romero play more games, to see if he can seriously takeover from De Gea.
Play De Gea in special big games only. Also just in case, play De Gea if Romero fail so bad.
The 2nd choice young keeper to also try and impress, instead of Grant because who knows even though the chance is very slim, they may prove worthy and we can save money.
By doing those ways, we can then assess how to manage the keeper situations.2nd - O'Hara or Joel P or Kovar
3rd - Grant
Then, we let Romero play more games, to see if he can seriously takeover from De Gea.
Play De Gea in special big games only. Also just in case, play De Gea if Romero fail so bad.
The 2nd choice young keeper to also try and impress, instead of Grant because who knows even though the chance is very slim, they may prove worthy and we can save money.
If Romero pass and Dean pass, no problem for season 2020/21.
If Romero fail but Dean pass, same no problem.
If Romero pass but Dean is questionable, same no problem.
If both fail to convince and even the youth fail, simply we get a new keeper.
These are professional players. We have to look at their perspective too. He has been with us for a long time and has not much won much compared to if he was with another top club. If he is not going to be be paid among the top brackets he may as well try and win the CL somewhere else. He is not going to win the PL in the next three years for sure and he sure is not going to win the CL by staying at United.
I'd take Donaruma. Whatever that AC Milan kid's name is. Incredible save he pulled off last weekend.
I suppose you haven't seen the way Dean Henderson shocked the whole Championship this season? Why bringing in another young, unproven goalkeeper when we may already have a superior version in our ranks waiting for chance?
There's a reason both boss Ole and Woodward are ready to let De Gea go on the right offer. That's just how highly they rate Henderson.
If he leaves I hope we try a more modern replacement, a keeper who can play with his feet
Donnarumma is in the top 10 most capped AC Milan keepers list with >150 appearances at 20 years of age. Also has 12 caps with Italy and firmly established now. I like and appreciate Henderson's achievements, but we're talking about an entirely different level when it comes to Donnarumma.
Big fecker as well. Enormous and commanding.
You forgot to mention he loves to punch the ball in unnecessary situations causing many problems.
Tl;DR We're fecked
Not sure if I'm just remembering wrong, but when De Gea was dropped when it looked like he was off to Real, wasn't Romero a bit of a nightmare? Every odd game he's done very well, but when he's been asked to come in for a few games at a time, he's looked far from this sure bet to replace our current number one. The confidence in him is a bit weird.
You say this like he’s desperate to leave Milan and is going on a free transfer.
Yes, you’d take him would you? Why would he come here though?
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