De Gea Contract Situation

[Jaxa]

Im more Angry with the fact we have a Goalkeeper that we have turned into a World Class player in 4 years and who is only 24 and sits with 1 year left on his contract, in a world where you can get 50m for David Luiz and 35m for Andy Carroll Furiates me, we can't expect to ask for more than £30m for him when Madrid can wait 1 season and get him for free, even they aren't that stupid.

We really are ran by a bunch of idiots, our transfer policy has been nothing short of embarrassing for a good while now, we always overspend on players and never sell for more than £10m if were lucky, partly because clubs know were rich and can milk us but we don't half help ourselves at the best of times, I mean the Fellaini transfer was madness, so obvious he was a last minute panic buy, letting Pogba get down to a stage where he could leave for free, Paying nearly all Nani's wages for him to play for Lisbon because we handed him a 4 year contract for no reason what so ever, Mental

 

[KiD MoYeS]

I really don't think the club can be blamed here, to be honest.

12 months ago it's hardly crazy that DDG might be thinking 'new manage after 26 years, let's see what happens'.

Now it's hardly crazy that he might be waiting to see if we get back on the CL.

The club are only really in a position to offer him one thing and that's money, which for one I'm sure we've done but secondly probably isn't the issue.

Well we're reportedly offering him a hell of a lot of money, yet he still wants Real Madrid. None of us know but I can't help but feel we could have prepared better.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Dunno, it appears we've sat on our hands a bit and it's going to bite us in the ass.

What makes it appear like we sat on our hands?

 

[Rado_N]

Well we're reportedly offering him a hell of a lot of money, yet he still wants Real Madrid. None of us know but I can't help but feel we could have prepared better.

Well if we're offering him a wedge and it's not the decisive factor why would it have made a difference 12 months ago?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Sometimes I get the impression people think the club can extend a contract without any input from the player.

"Oops. Two years left. Let's press the 'extend contract' button"

 

[KiD MoYeS]

What makes it appear like we sat on our hands?

We've been discussing a contract extension for two seasons now, of course we don't know what happened behind the scenes but I personally feel we maybe could have done better with de Gea's situation. Most of us believed he'd return to Spain one day, but sometime in the future and for a massive amount of money, now it appears he'll leave soon and for a relatively low amount of money.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

I'm uncomfortable with shrugging this off lads, we're set to lose the best 'keeper in the league for a relatively low amount of money. I'd wish for better at Manchester United to be honest.

 

[Rado_N]

I'm uncomfortable with shrugging this off lads, we're set to lose the best 'keeper in the league for a relatively low amount of money. I'd wish for better at Manchester United to be honest.

OK, so give us an idea of what exactly the club could have done to avoid it.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

OK, so give us an idea of what exactly the club could have done to avoid it.

Been more proactive in contract negotiations, but like I said none of us know what went on behind the scenes. Every major decision at Manchester United is scrutinized, and rightly so.

 

[Roman Bellic]

Cant force him to sign if he wants Madrid, its just sad that we gave a young lad the chance to replace Van Der Sar and stuck by him through all the criticisms and he might just leave like that to a team that would easily replace him after a bad season.

How are we supposed to be a top club when we cant keep our best players?

 

[sizzling sausages]

Blaming the club if he leaves is crazy imo.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Blaming the club if he leaves is crazy imo.

Nobody is blaming the club but it'd be ridiculous to admit there was nothing that could have been done to prevent this.

 

[Rado_N]

Been more proactive in contract negotiations, but like I said none of us know what went on behind the scenes. Every major decision at Manchester United is scrutinized, and rightly so.

That's what I'm saying though; how?

If when SAF retired he figured he'd see how it went and now he's seeing if we get CL what exactly could the club have done?

Unless you're saying we should have got him to sign an extension before SAF retired? Which would have been 2 years into a 5 year deal.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

That's what I'm saying though; how?

If when SAF retired he figured he'd see how it went and now he's seeing if we get CL what exactly could the club have done?

Unless you're saying we should have got him to sign an extension before SAF retired? Which would have been 2 years into a 5 year deal.

I'm not offering solutions, I believe it'd be wrong to not ask questions though.

 

[Jazz]

I'm uncomfortable with shrugging this off lads, we're set to lose the best 'keeper in the league for a relatively low amount of money. I'd wish for better at Manchester United to be honest.

Nothing we can do. My hope is that he does his job for the remaining games - which doesn't look good at the moment considering his recent performances. Like you, I'm uncomfortable with the fact that we'd lose him for such little money - not necessarily that he'll go as everyone is replaceable eventually no matter what. However, maybe it's irrational of me, but what pisses me off is Dave and his agent allowing Real to low ball United with a ridiculous offer. I thought he had more respect for the club. No matter how you spin it, it doesn't make United look good losing players like that for so little.
In any case, let's sell him this summer, and move on. If he wants to go, I don't him here. And we can't afford to have a sulking player disrupting the team.

 

[Rado_N]

I'm not offering solutions, I believe it'd be wrong to not ask questions though.

You're criticising the club and saying they should have done more, but offering absolutely no idea as to what exactly that 'more' might look like, whilst at the same time seemingly ignoring the difficulty of the situation regarding timing of SAFs retirement and us dropping out of Europe.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Nothing we can do. My hope is that he does his job for the remaining games - which doesn't look good at the moment considering his recent performances. Like you, I'm uncomfortable with the fact that we'd lose him for such little money - not necessarily that he'll go as everyone is replaceable eventually no matter what. However, maybe it's irrational of me, but what pisses me off is Dave and his agent allowing Real to low ball United with a ridiculous offer. I thought he had more respect for the club. No matter how you spin it, it doesn't make United look good losing players like that for so little.
In any case, let's sell him this summer, and move on. If he wants to go, I don't him here. And we can't afford to have a sulking player disrupting the team.

Is there honestly nothing we can do though?

We can tell Madrid we're not selling for anything less than £30 million, test how desperate they are... Another season with Casillas wouldn't be too tempting I'd bet.

 

[Amir]

Nobody is blaming the club but it'd be ridiculous to admit there was nothing that could have been done to prevent this.

Maybe there was, and maybe there wasn't, we just don't know.

Bayern Munich are a huge club and are also considered excellently ran. And even they found themselves selling a top player (Kroos) who had a year left on his contract. It happens.

 

[Silverman]

He would have signed the contract if he wanted to stay. Its not the clubs fault and I don't have any hard feelings against De Gea. The only chance we have is that he may have been waiting to se that we confirm Champions league football but I doubt that's the situation.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

You're criticising the club and saying they should have done more, but offering absolutely no idea as to what exactly that 'more' might look like, whilst at the same time seemingly ignoring the difficulty of the situation regarding timing of SAFs retired and use dropping out of Europe.

Well personally I'd reject Madrid's offer if it was that low, I believe an extra season with de Gea is worth more to us than €20 million.

 

[sizzling sausages]

Nobody is blaming the club but it'd be ridiculous to admit there was nothing that could have been done to prevent this.

I didn't mean you there, questioning it is fair enough, but there is some that will blame the club if he does leave. I genuinely don't think the club could do anything to prevent this happening, I've thought it was inevitable since he first joined. I would've liked a few more seasons from him but I think the only thing that might have made him stay here for most of his career was if we were winning the league or Champions League every season, which was never gonna happen.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

This is the second time in a row we're set to lose our best player to Real Madrid, and for what will prove to be a bargain for Real.

Is there really nothing we can do? Really?

 

[Damien]

Is there honestly nothing we can do though?

We can tell Madrid we're not selling for anything less than £30 million, test how desperate they are... Another season with Casillas wouldn't be too tempting I'd bet.

They'd make do, or get de Gea/agent to make things untenable from our side of things. They might roll out Blatter for another slavery comment.

 

[Jazz]

Is there honestly nothing we can do though?

We can tell Madrid we're not selling for anything less than £30 million, test how desperate they are... Another season with Casillas wouldn't be too tempting I'd bet.

Madrid will just wait until he can leave on a free. They won't be panicking at all - not with all their attacking options. Casillas may not be that good anymore but he's still adequate for them - especially considering their defence is not as leaky as ours.

 

[Jazz]

They'd make do, or get de Gea/agent to make things untenable from our side of things. They might roll out Blatter for another slavery comment.

 

[united_99]

I wouldn't sell him for € 25 mil. I would rather he left on a free next year AND at the same time not play him next season so he has no chance going to the Euros.
Sounds bad but so what? He can easily avoid it by signing an extention so we can at least get around 35-40 mil € for him if he wants to leave.

 

[Rado_N]

Well personally I'd reject Madrid's offer if it was that low, I believe an extra season with de Gea is worth more to us than €20 million.

I'd possibly agree with that, another season of him would he worth taking the hit financially. Still doesn't change the fact the club couldn't have done anything more.

This is the second time in a row we're set to lose our best player to Real Madrid, and for what will prove to be a bargain for Real.

Is there really nothing we can do? Really?

Not if they wanna go, no.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Very frustrating, still don't think we should simply shrug this off though.

 

[sizzling sausages]

I'd rather sell him if he wants to go and get in his replacement to integrate them into the team as early during this rebuilding period as possible.

 

[Jazz]

I wouldn't sell him for € 25 mil. I would rather he left on a free next year AND at the same time not play him next season so he has no chance going to the Euros.
Sounds bad but so what? He can easily avoid it by signing an extention so we can at least get around 35-40 mil € for him if he wants to leave.

My evil side was thinking this. But it's probably not a good idea to try and ruin his career.... much prefer he goes to Real and Casillas accidentally breaks his hand

 

[ottosec]

He's probably my favorite player in the squad, but if he wants out let him go. No point of keeping a player that doesn't want to be here.

It's a shame that we made him into a top Goalkeeper only to see him leave, but it's an unfortunate situation, the club can't do anything about it.

 

[Sam]

I'm uncomfortable with shrugging this off lads, we're set to lose the best 'keeper in the league for a relatively low amount of money. I'd wish for better at Manchester United to be honest.

The thing is, its a relatively high amount. The 4th highest amount for any keeper, ever.

 

[carvajal]

When Courtois finished his loan in Atlético there were rumours about his intentions in future(I think he had 2 years left with Chelsea), even his father said that was very happy in Spain, where probably he would live in the future. After that some periodists here in Spain said that Mourinho called to the player to tell him "if you don´t sign a new contract you will stay 2 years in the bench". Courtois signed a new contract. I think that David is coming but probably United could threaten the player to get a new contract, even with a clause, but with better conditions for the sale.

Is there honestly nothing we can do though?

We can tell Madrid we're not selling for anything less than £30 million, test how desperate they are... Another season with Casillas wouldn't be too tempting I'd bet.

Madrid is quite desperate but 30million pounds/41mill euros is too much for a goalkeeper. In that situation is easier to tell David "complain to your club or we sign another player"

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

25 million hit for a season for a keeper who doesn't want to be at United would be bonkers even by our standards. No one is irreplaceable, I think there are enough goal keepers around who could come in for decent money and give us a lot of years

 

[Jazz]

When Courtois finished his loan in Atlético there were rumours about his intentions in future(I think he had 2 years left with Chelsea), even his father said that was very happy in Spain, where probably he would live in the future. After that some periodists here in Spain said that Mourinho called to the player to tell him "if you don´t sign a new contract you will stay 2 years in the bench". Courtois signed a new contract. I think that David is coming but probably United could threaten the player to get a new contract, even with a clause, but with better conditions for the sale.

Madrid is quite desperate but 30million pounds/41mill euros is too much for a goalkeeper. In that situation is easier to tell David "complain to your club or we sign another player"

I like that a lot.....might send that quote to Big Ed Woodward....

 

[Deleted member 78215]

I'd put money on him leaving this summer. Would be a big, big loss.

 

[united_99]

Obviously it is annoying that "we stood by him and now he is leaving" but it's not like we are angels ourselves, is it? If anything Atletico were more entitled to say that they produced him and with only 20 he was ready to leave his boyhood club. Yes they received good money but at the same time they always need money. Us on the other hand won't receive a fair value but at the same time we are apparently that rich that we like to pay more than the release clause so we don't need the money in the same way Atletico did.

I would just like to make a point that he can't have it his way entirely by forcing him to sign an extention so we Real have to pay more or let him sit on the bench.

I am still hoping he stays though as Valdes or Lloris are nowhere close to DDG's level.

 

[Jippy]

I really don't think the club can be blamed here, to be honest.

12 months ago it's hardly crazy that DDG might be thinking 'new manager after 26 years, let's see what happens'.

Now it's hardly crazy that he might be waiting to see if we get back on the CL.

The club are only really in a position to offer him one thing and that's money, which for one I'm sure we've done but secondly probably isn't the issue.

This obviously. Regardless of the Atletico/Real situation, it's no real surprise someone wants to win their domestic league and play for Real. Add in the fact it's also no real surprise that a Spaniard with a hot Spanish girlfriend who lives in Spain and hates Manchester might want him to join and this could be swaying him if he has doubts.
We've seen it before enough times. If location and lifestyle is a key consideration, then Manchester or Liverpool will always play second fiddle to Madrid or Barcelona.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

I wouldn't sell him for € 25 mil. I would rather he left on a free next year AND at the same time not play him next season so he has no chance going to the Euros.
Sounds bad but so what? He can easily avoid it by signing an extention so we can at least get around 35-40 mil € for him if he wants to leave.

I know that suggestion may seem a bit wild but why not? Let's play Valdes and he can go to the Euros instead

 

[Oo0AahCantona]

This really annoys me. Weve developed Ronaldo / De Gea / Pogba and havent seen anything close to their prime here. What's the point? We have the money so lets go for the finished articles, we're sacrificing more mediocre seasons for these players to develop and when they do, theyre gone and we have to regroup to replace them.
It isn't worth it.

Really good point. will we see the same with januzaj as well? turn him into a real gem only for him to move to spain.