I think he'd join Arsenal because he wants to stay in London for his family. Otherwise he'll just move abroad rather then come to Manchester.
Anyway I don't think that Cech is a Van Gaal keeper, he's not that good with his feet.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Anyway I don't think that Cech is a Van Gaal keeper, he's not that good with his feet.
I can't see us inserting a buyout clause for that much if he were to sign a new deal. It would be much higher.
That would be bollox, though. He was a notch above Lindegaard when he came here with a potential of becoming 50 times better (which he'd already fulfilled after a couple of years here). If you care to check it there were a good number of people happy with Anders as our 1st GK when De Gea was finding it rough. Fergie was too, but he - like us- knew that eventually it wasn't a contest and that De Gea will become a monster. I struggle to come up with one game Lindegaard lost us in his time here, he's exactly what you want from your back up goalie.
Agree. Seems like a great guy as well, hope he goes to another decent PL club. He's certainly good enough, if he's still at the same level.
His first save there was awarded the save of the season as was one against Villa at OT in his time here. Not too shabby I'd say. You don't have to portrait it as 'nothing to boast about' to prove De Gea is better in all departments, which he is and always has been.
Not if the choice came down to 30m vs. him leaving for free next season. If De Gea refuses to sign a contract unless that clause was inserted then the club's hands are tied.
Pains me to say that but if his minimal clause demands are true then he could just as well say he doesn't want to sign a new contract altogether. I mean, what's the point? If we're to pay 20m+ for Gundogan who's in his last year as well, we could possibly make Madrid pay 25-30m as things stand, let alone with an extended contract. I hope it's wrong because I'd see that as disrespectful towards us.
Agree it's frustrating. However it's only happened with Ronaldo and De Gea. One from Madrid itself and the other from the Iberian Peninsula, no surprise in my opinion that Madrid can attract them. Everyone else we have sold them has been because we gave them the boot.
If and when we groom a world class local/English/UK player, they are unlikely to be as sure to leave.
Edit: hasn't even happened with De Gea, yet!
It must be difficult for him, I doubt he wants to play for Real Madrid over United, I think it's probably a choice between the girlfriend he loves and the club he loves.
If he goes to Real Madrid it will be to do a professional job, not because it's the club he dreams of playing for especially considering he supported their arch rivals and was a product of their youth system.
The least he could do for us is ensure we get a fair fee for him, not unlike what Reus did for Dortmund.
If he goes to Real Madrid it will be to do a professional job, not because it's the club he dreams of playing for especially considering he supported their arch rivals and was a product of their youth system.
The least he could do for us is ensure we get a fair fee for him, not unlike what Reus did for Dortmund.
For him? A massive bump in wages before leaving on the cheap next summer. You can see why the club isn't playing ball.
If the release clause is true, it sounds to me like the club must either sign him on the new contract, or sell him this summer if they can get a replacement/ more than the release clause states.
Yeah but it's just unfortunate most european/South american players want to play for Real Madrid or Barcelona that's the teams they grow up watching most as kids. That was the case with Ronaldo and suarez anyway in the case of de gea I think he just wants to go back home tbh.
I doubt we would get more than 30m (euros) for him anyway with only one year left on his contract, so it may be worth just signing him up anyway.
Still, if the rumours are true about him wanting a release clause that low, it does make you wonder, and clearly implies that he doesnt want to stay here long term.
Still, if the rumours are true about him wanting a release clause that low, it does make you wonder, and clearly implies that he doesnt want to stay here long term.
Too old, we need a younger keeper that's got more seasons left.
Lloris or Leno is a decent shout.
1. I would say that the absolute majority of players would leave United for Barca/Madrid. So, unless you won't like shopping on the best players list then you will always have that problem.
2. Neither me. De Gea will pay the price for it, and I don't have any problem with that is the club decides that is the best thing to do.
3. De Gea's friend might not like the fact that he has to play and train in reserves just because he didn't extend his contract. Neither will the prospective signings. We can't keep players by force there. De Gea has been professional and gave his 100% on every game. Either keep him and play him (his contract afte all doesn't have any clause that says that he must extend) or sell him. Both of these are correct behaviours and what big clubs would do.
You mean Götze? Or am I missing something?
Yet City hold onto Silva and Chelsea will retain Hazard, no doubt. Annoying.
For us, I mean. Obviously it's a perfect scenario for him. Getting top top wages while having a minimal clause that will be triggered by Madrid the first second it can be. Which for me is disrespectful and respect in all of that is the bare minimum we should expect and get from him. It's just not the sort of behaviour I'd expect from David and I still hope it's not true.
Don't see the issue , 30m isn't exactly low and we get a world class keeper for another season.
The alternative is him running down his contract and leaving for free, that would be disrespectful.
The alternative is him running down his contract and leaving for free, that would be disrespectful.
We did buy Van Der Sar in his mid 30's remember.
Madrid and Barca don't need both those players though. Where will Hazard or Silva play at Barca? And we don't know if Chelsea will retain Hazard. If Hazard wants to leave then he will. But only way he is joining if Bale leaves.
The renewal of De Gea should have been closed a year ago, I think that is a mistake of the club to allow the last year situation with his main star. Madrid will be interested in any Spanish player with talent that is available , that will not change.
By the way, United was also sniffing around with Cristiano. Woodward loved to meet secretly with him in summer, without Madrid knowledge. Honor the contract , respect the club , but then the English teams come to la liga and start buying through chequebook power without worrying about the opinion of the club and who has trained the player (Herrera, for example)
So, the club was supposed to put a gun to his head and force him to sign? It doesn't matter when the proposal is made, if De Gea didn't want to extend 2 years or 1 year ago, there's nothing anyone would do about it. Stop blaming the club now please.
Does his desired contract say the clause can only be triggered after the upcoming season? Genuinely asking.
Time will tell whether we are able to keep hold of our growing hoard of Spanish speakers. I reckon we'll be alright.
Reus. He extended the contract this season, despite that he had a ridiculously low clause that many clubs would be willing to pay. One of the most selfless acts I have seen in football. He'll likely leave this or in the next summer, but BVB would get more money.
I doubt it was the club's choice for his contract to run down. I'd imagine an offer has been on the table for awhile but he hasn't agreed to sign it.The renewal of De Gea should have been closed a year ago, I think that is a mistake of the club to allow the last year situation with his main star. Madrid will be interested in any Spanish player with talent that is available , that will not change.
By the way, United was also sniffing around with Cristiano. Woodward loved to meet secretly with him in summer, without Madrid knowledge. Honor the contract , respect the club , but then the English teams come to la liga and start buying through chequebook power without worrying about the opinion of the club and who has trained the player (Herrera, for example)
If that's true get rid this summer while Cech is available. A release clause means he wants to go.
Would be kinda funny, signing a contract and gone in the same summer, you'd have to laugh if that scenario was possible otherwise we'd all cry ourselves to sleep.
I just think Madrid find it easier signing players off us than any other big club, that's why they keep coming back, and if we sell De Gea to them, they'll come back for another player in few years time. I'm sure they like Hazard, Silva and Aguero, but they know they aren't getting them. I've not seen Chelsea sell any player they wanted to keep, why should we do it. It's not good for the image of this club to buy young players, groom them into world class status, then sell them off to Real Madrid for profit. That's how I see it.
So would he most likely because of the bigger transfer fee.
Ah yes, I remember. Thanks. What was the clause, 20m or something?
Not sure, Mel. United haven't ever used release clauses, so I doubt we'll start doing it now. It might set a bad precedent. Obviously, not evert player can ask then for one (only a very small minority of players we'll have in the next 10 years or so will be near as good as De Gea) but still, not a very healthy thing to do.
In my opinion, either he'll sign a new contract with a gentleman agreement that we'll leave him to go to Madrid as long as they pay a healthy sum of money (probably not even mentioning the exact amount) - so something similar to what we did with Ronaldo or Liverpool with Suarez - or we'll sell him to Madrid this summer.
I wouldn't be too disappointed with a €30m release clause. Neuer went for €22m and with De Gea on the last year of his contract I don't think we'd be getting any more than that. Shame he doesn't want to help us out by getting his full value though.
We put one in for Ruud a few years back apparently.
Usually it works the other way around. If a club pays 50m to BVB then it won't pay a big bonus to Reus. If it pays to BVB 20m, then Reus will get a large signing on fee.
IIRC, it was 25m euros or so.
Really? I didn't know that.
If that is the case, then I guess it won't be a precedent.
VDS is the exact opposite of Handanovic in terms o what they offer. I agree that 30 isnt old for GKs, but Handanovic is not the one we should go for.
Why is it not FM where you can give a player low wages but his minimal clause at 0 only to set his status at 'reject all the bids below or equal to 100m'?
You have a point there. Basically the ball is firmly in his court. Renewing his contract is not beneficial for him though as it means Madrid have less money to spend on his wages if they pay a higher transfer fee. And leaving on a free means a hefty signing on bonus for him. I don't think he's the type of player to do that to us but you never know.
Evra done that last summer.
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