Meh, if he wants to leave he can either go this summer for a significant fee, or next summer having been made to honour his contract. It's about time players and agents were made to realise contracts aren't all about protecting their interests, you sign for five years you damn well stay for five years unless the club agrees to sell you.
De Gea Contract Situation
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I don't see why a story in AS is any more gospel than a story in any other rag. Story being the operative word.
I think if we offered him double the money he was on (he was/is worth it) plus a clause about not making CL that we'd accept a certain amount of money; then he would have signed.
As a 23 year old (last summer) he would have snapped our hands off to earn twice the amount, plus a clause meaning he can leave should we not make CL. That would now have given us a few more years on the contract and able to demand 2-3 times the value that we'll most likely receive should he leave.
Madrid won't match our wage offer. They have a different model which involves paying a few superstars insane wages and everyone else much lower.
De Gea wouldn't fall into the superstar category. I'd be surprised if they offered half of 200k a week.
It doesn't piss me off or anything but IF he was insisting on a relatively low release clause like that, when the chase for his signature looks a one horse race, then it doesn't suggest him signing a new deal has much to do with preserving value and instead is all about holding on for another year until they shift Casillas. Similarly it suggests he's more concerned with the price Madrid have to pay than the price we'll receive.
I used to buy the "He's waiting until end of the season to see if we have CL football" argument before - but from LVG's words, it doesn't sound as if that's the issue. If it was about the CL football, we would have just left a contract on the table and agreed to come back to it once the season ends. But it sounds as if we've repeatedly offered him a wage increase, to which he's declining.
For what it's worth - if De Gea does sign a contract worth, let's say, £200,000 - would that be classified as what Rooney did back in 2009(?)? He was given heaps of abuse for taking the club to the cleaners*.
*I'm not saying De Gea should receive abuse, as I think the treatment Rooney received was OTT.
For what it's worth - if De Gea does sign a contract worth, let's say, £200,000 - would that be classified as what Rooney did back in 2009(?)? He was given heaps of abuse for taking the club to the cleaners*.
*I'm not saying De Gea should receive abuse, as I think the treatment Rooney received was OTT.
You could do worse than buying Cech from us for around 20 mil.
Definitely, he would be a solid replacement. I do get the feeling we'll be seeing Valdes as our first choice if DDG leaves though...
Just scrolled through AS' Twitter, when did they say DDG rejected £200k?
Would be my choice if we cannot get Lloris or Leno. We can though, Leno especially.
No... He would probably have left last summer with that cl clause
And I think that you and others are focusing way too much on goalkeepers, a very good goalkeeper is enough, obviously it's nice to have a great one but it's not necessary, instead of putting our faith in a goalkeeper, we should ease his life by conceding as little opportunities, as we can.
Keepers like Oblak, Lloris, Leno, or Begovic are good enough, for us.
Cech won't join. A United fan on twitter asked him to join not too long ago, and he replied with "You wish".
Think he'd be too loyal to Chelsea to join a PL rival.
Think he'd be too loyal to Chelsea to join a PL rival.
I think people are underestimating slightly how important he is to us just because we've played 4 good games now.
We were playing mid table football for a very long time with the best gk in the world having a purple patch
I would do anything to keep him another few years
We were playing mid table football for a very long time with the best gk in the world having a purple patch
I would do anything to keep him another few years
I meant offering him the contract the summer gone, so just when LvG was appointed.
I'd say he's more concerned with the money he can make for himself. The less Real pay for him to United, the more they'll give him as a signing fee and the more they can offer him in wages.
Doubt he'd turn down the chance to play here rather than rot at the bench at Chelsea. Chelsea wouldnt stand in the way either so if we want him, it can be done very soon.
Doubt anyone's underestimating his importance for us. He's the one player in the squad that is among the top 2-3 in his position in the world.
Its just that the ball is entirely in his court and there's a sense of helplessness. I doubt the club will stop at anything to keep him if there's a chance. But we can only do so much, we cannot move Madrid to Manchester. If he goes, we need to replace him with a top keeper and life goes on.
Yup. Most players in his situation would do the same too.
Ronaldo wouldnt have done what he did either had it not been for his relationship with Sir Alex.
I doubt Jose is gonna help fix a major problem for us by selling us Cech. Why are people so convinced Chelsea won't stand in his way? Because Jose sold us Mata? It's a completely different set of circumstances.
Handanovic, anyone?
Handanovic, anyone?
That is when we opened negotiation apparently.
It's also when stories of madrid swap deals and an unhappy gf started to gather momentum - presumably briefed either by madrid or people close to de gea
some of the comments. How old are you? 8?
Indeed, almost rawkish.
He's been a great servant for them and would deserve to play regularly at a club like ours. He's on the bench on good wages and Chelsea would get a good fee as well, the way they are run now, they wont turn it down.
They don't, De Gea can go on a free next summer.
Yeah, agreed. Sometimes players move on, it happens, its sad, but we'll get over it.
Heck, I'm not even Spanish and I'd love to play for Madrid club politics aside its a lovely place to play your football.
I just can't bring myself to be particularly upset about losing a goalkeeper, even one as good as Dave.
Since we've improved the amount of work De Gea has had to do has been miniscule.
They can do a pre contract on Jan 1st so I can't see them offering us much at all
Especially as cassillias will last them another year
I think people saying 'he's replaceable you know' are putting too much emphasis on the last few games. Most games this season where he played well, we could not replace him with a gk that would have kept us in those games.
LVG was saying yesterday if we didn't have such a bad start we might have been champions. What he might have said in the De Gea part was if De Gea left last summer, no matter what good keeper we got in to replace him, we would have finished 8th or 9th
Is all the panic in this thread just because of an AS article?
Yep.
Mostly LvG's comments yesterday (or whenever it was), I'd say.
I fecking hate Madrid and sunny weather.
Funny how people never took their reports of our interest in Bale as seriously
Do the Spanish media do the same as the English, and come out with extra bullshit for their Sunday editions?
Do the Spanish media do the same as the English, and come out with extra bullshit for their Sunday editions?
Hope you have the same thoughts when we are trying to sign players..
As long as we get a good fee.. World's most expensive keeper money. That should be fine with us.
Eh? Cech for £20M? No way. I really hope we don't do something like that.
No manager would say that about a player that is likely to leave. What Van Gaal feels and what he'l say to the media are 2 very different things.
About comments in this thread, is there anyone that has said we can replace him with someone of similar quality? No. Its just that if he leaves, there are top keepers around that we can get. It'l be a drop but that's how it is with anyone who's among the best in their position.
If that story is true, then it's very poor form. The release clause is insultingly low. Must emphasize the "if" at this stage though.
That release clause has to be bullshit, the club would never agree to one that low.
This is the impression I get as well. This is what's pissing me off. If he needs to leave for personal reasons then fine. But it's the impression he's giving right now which I find insulting to United that I'm not liking. In any case, as long as he does his job for the remaining games.
I do indeed
Has to be bullshit. We could probably get that much for him now to be honest - even with a year left. I'd much rather get rid now and use Valdes while looking for someone long term than just giving him a bumper contract for a year only to lose him for feck all anyway.
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