De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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Revan said:
If the club thinks that losing 20m from transfer (and 4m or so in wages) is better than selling De Gea, then fine, that is what we will do. We will look a bit like twats, other top talented players will think twice before they'll come here, De Gea will lose a year of his career and msot likely the next EUROs, and no idea how will our other players take this. Probably not that well.

But for sure, if the club thinks that that is the best solution, then they'll do it. Personally, I think that only a bitter club with small mentality would behave like that.

IMO there are 2 options (if De Gea doesn't sign):
- sell him (for as much money as possible)
- don't sell him cause we think that his contribution is better than getting 20-25m from him.

That is rationality. And lucky for us, those who are in charge of the club (Ed and co) seems quite rational.
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1.The other "top talented players" who have to think twice about joining Manchester United because they might be forced to honour their stipulated contracts once signed are not "top talented players" I want at the club.

2. De Gea losing a year of his career and missing out on a tournament because he decided he needed to join Real Madrid is not more important to me than Manchester United.

3. Any of our players who feel upset with the club because it acted strongly when David De Gea decided he wanted to leave them and join Real Madrid can follow him out the door as far as I'm concerned. Could you imgaine Roy Keane, Paul Scholes or Eric Cantona throwing their toys out of the pram because some fella who wasn't 100% committed to the cause was made honour his contract? Bullshit, they'd have been the first ones in his face telling him to cop the feck on.

The teams who really dominate Europe,and I mean for more than the odd year here and there, are stocked full of players who are totally committed to their club.
That is where this club should always be striving for. Not pandering to the whims of the precious cases along the way.
 
diarm said:
Such a small time attitude.
F*ck doing us a favour. We're Manchester United. We don't need his charity.

This is getting tiring now.
Put the contract on the table. Tell him he has until the start of the transfer window to sign it.

If he signs, awesome. Good man.
If he doesn't, awesome. Find a replacement, pay what it takes.
Leave him out of the summer tour, give him squad number 47 and his schedule for the reserves next season.

We gain nothing by begging and bending.
We gain nothing by letting him go to strengthen a rival for (in our terms) small money this year.
We gain nothing by leaving him in the first team, unhappy, for the remainder of his contract.
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Yup, about right.
 
The thread title had me concerned, but is the general consensus that it's nonsense?
 
ZDwyr said:
The thread title had me concerned, but is the general consensus that it's nonsense?
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You never know with Madrid. They usually get their man, which leads me to think where there's smoke, there's fire. Still 200k is a lot for a keeper. I'll bet Neuer and Courtwah don't make that much.
 
We know that De Gea has been offered a new, presumably lucrative, contract and that he hasn't signed it yet, because the manager said so.
Don't think it is fair though to criticise De Gea for the AS stuff, which is pure speculation at this point.
 
diarm said:
1.The other "top talented players" who have to think twice about joining Manchester United because they might be forced to honour their stipulated contracts once signed are not "top talented players" I want at the club.

2. De Gea losing a year of his career and missing out on a tournament because he decided he needed to join Real Madrid is not more important to me than Manchester United.

3. Any of our players who feel upset with the club because it acted strongly when David De Gea decided he wanted to leave them and join Real Madrid can follow him out the door as far as I'm concerned. Could you imgaine Roy Keane, Paul Scholes or Eric Cantona throwing their toys out of the pram because some fella who wasn't 100% committed to the cause was made honour his contract? Bullshit, they'd have been the first ones in his face telling him to cop the feck on.

The teams who really dominate Europe,and I mean for more than the odd year here and there, are stocked full of players who are totally committed to their club.
That is where this club should always be striving for. Not pandering to the whims of the precious cases along the way.
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Then, when a player signs for United he should stay at the club his whole career? and if he refuses to renew then the solution is a year without playing.All the commitment changed when the club started signing latin americans and spanish players.
 
Sphaero said:
Some of the informations in that article have to be bogus. I mean, the salary is somewhat realistic, but I have a really hard time believing that De Gea currently has a 25 Mil. € release clause in his contract. Why would United have agreed to that back in 2011 when they signed him for 20 Mil. €?
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Yep tis a bit strange.
 
Honestly if the club knows he is off, I would drop him for the rest of the season. Waste of space in such a situation. Good luck dealing with Casillas - we all saw what happened to Lopez.
 
carvajal said:
Then, when a player signs for United he should stay at the club his whole career? and if he refuses to renew then the solution is a year without playing.All the commitment changed when the club started signing latin americans and spanish players.
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When a player signs for United, he should do it believing he is signing for the best club in the world and can achieve everything he wants to, here.
 
diarm said:
When a player signs for United, he should do it believing he is signing for the best club in the world and can achieve everything he wants to, here.
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It´s good that you have an idea of firmness and pride about your team, however it is difficult to maintain in this modern football in which agents and sponsors have so much prominence
 
Damien said:
There are a couple of reasons why that sort of thing is never done.
1. Financial aspect... alright that doesn't affect us as much but 20M is still a chunk of money
2. Would easily impact future transfers. Who'd sign for a club where you could be treated like that?
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diarm said:
Was is vindictive, self defeating and non pragmatic to leave Lindegaard out of the squad all season?
I'm not saying that we be nasty to the guy. If he truly needs to return to Madrid then I've already said we can sell him to Aletico. Hell they could even afford the £18million.
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See Damien's post. Letting him rot in the reserves is just a terrible idea for so many reasons. If you can't understand that I don't know whT to tell you.

Someone else already answered your question. Lindegaard's situation is apples to oranges. He was on the bench because he is backup to one of the best in the world. De gea is better. Completely different to sit one of the best in the world and play a worse player just because the better guy may want to move.

How do you think negotiations would go for players in the future if we set a precedent that we're willing to let world class players rot in the reserves because they want to move?

If we're going to decide to keep him until his contract ends and not take the money now then the best thing to do is buy a young keeper and loan him, not have a young, worse keeper keep de gea on the bench out of some bs principle.

Also, if the £18m release clause was real, do you think there would be a transfer saga? Don't you think we would have heard this before this report? There's no £18m release clause. Isn't that around or less than what we signed him for?...
 
diarm said:
When a player signs for United, he should do it believing he is signing for the best club in the world and can achieve everything he wants to, here.
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He might struggle to win La Liga at United, no matter how good he is.
 
I don't know what to make of all this. All I can say is that I'll be absolutely distraught if DDG leaves for Madrid. He is, by far, my favorite player in our squad. He might very well have his reasons for leaving but nothing will soften the blow of his departure. Even if we manage to land Cech/Lloris, I just feel like we'll be missing out on a tremendous 'keeper, who was supposed to be our answer to Bayern's Neuer or Chelsea's Courtois.
 
Will be a massive loss if he leaves but if he has decided wants to go to Madrid, what are you going to do? Just fleece them for as much as possible in the summer and move on or force him to stay next year and get nothing for him...very obvious but thats the way it is.
 
Is anyone else sick of this bullshit?

We sign a player, put up with his mistakes, turn him into a world class player and then sell him on to Real, so he can spend his peak years there.

I'm sick of it (Not that my opinion matters) But it's now United should be signing him...None of this "Oh we sign young players and make stars out of them" ...To hell with that! We're Manchester United!

EDIT: I'm very drunk right now. Just finished a gig. Point still stands and you know I'm right....I will not remember this tomorrow
 
Getting sick of Real always gets their man bullshit. We should insist on Bale in return or no deal. Don't get why it must be a law of nature that Real always get whoever they want.
 
.Rossi said:
Is anyone else sick of this bullshit?

We sign a player, put up with his mistakes, turn him into a world class player and then sell him on to Real, so he can spend his peak years there.

I'm sick of it (Not that my opinion matters) But it's now United should be signing him...None of this "Oh we sign young players and make stars out of them" ...To hell with that! We're Manchester United!

EDIT: I'm very drunk right now. Just finished a gig. Point still stands and you know I'm right....I will not remember this tomorrow
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dar10nian said:
Getting sick of Real always gets their man bullshit. We should insist on Bale in return or no deal. Don't get why it must be a law of nature that Real always get whoever they want.
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Yep your right but at the end of the day its down to what the player wants and for most players Real Madrid and Barcelona are the pinnacle off Football and they do not want to miss their chance of playing for what they see as the best club in the world. We may be up there as one of the biggest clubs in terms of money and supporters but to most foreign players I don't think Man Utd are seen at the same level as the top 2 Spanish clubs. Thats why they can pretty much just get any player they want.
 
dar10nian said:
Getting sick of Real always gets their man bullshit. We should insist on Bale in return or no deal. Don't get why it must be a law of nature that Real always get whoever they want.
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It is not true, at least from us. The only player they got from us that we would rather have not sold was Ronaldo. That too because the cnut insisted on leaving. Beckham, Rudd Van and Heinze left for them because we wanted them out, not the other way around.

If De Gea leaves, it'll will be because he is insistent on leaving, not because we bowed down to some magical Real powers.
 
BringNaniBack said:
Yep your right but at the end of the day its down to what the player wants and for most players Real Madrid and Barcelona are the pinnacle off Football and they do not want to miss their chance of playing for what they see as the best club in the world. We may be up there as one of the biggest clubs in terms of money and supporters but to most foreign players I don't think Man Utd are seen at the same level as the top 2 Spanish clubs. Thats why they can pretty much just get any player they want.
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To hell with the player! It's now we should be signing these type of players....Not, "Oh we sign them young and develop them. We give young players a chance!".....That's utter nonsense!

That's what our academy is for!...This will be the 3rd genuine world class player we've developed and let go to Madrid. RVN, Ronaldo and now De Dea....How does that look?
 
Insanity said:
It is not true, at least from us. The only player they got from us that we would rather have not sold was Ronaldo. That too because the cnut insisted on leaving. Beckham, Rudd Van and Heinze left for them because we wanted them out, not the other way around.

If De Gea leaves, it'll will be because he is insistent on leaving, not because we bowed down to some magical Real powers.
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Madrid started sniffing around RVN in 2003, before he even wanted to leave.
 
Insanity said:
Doesn't matter when they started sniffing around. We sold him after that incident with Fergie in the cup final.
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Yeah but, you read anything with Fergie or RVN, he wanted to go in 2004, once he found out about their interest.

How we held onto him for that long is beyond me.

It would be the same with Pogba right now if we kept him....Develop him and groom him for Madrid
 
Why is anyone surprised he'd rather play for Madrid. He's Spanish for a start and Madrid are currently a much better club than us. Would be a blow but nothing we can do about it except move on.
 
.Rossi said:
Yeah but, you read anything with Fergie or RVN, he wanted to go in 2004, once he found out about their interest.

How we held onto him for that long is beyond me.

It would be the same with Pogba right now if we kept him....Develop him and groom him for Madrid
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Who knows what would have happened with Pogba. Utlimately it's up to the player what he wants to do, if he wants to go then there are only so many things that you can do.

As for De Gea, I am still confident he'll stay. Will sign on the dotted lines as soon as we confirm our top 4 position.
 
Insanity said:
Who knows what would have happened with Pogba. Utlimately it's up to the player what he wants to do, if he wants to go then there are only so many things that you can do.

As for De Gea, I am still confident he'll stay. Will sign on the dotted lines as soon as we confirm our top 4 position.
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Meh....We'll get more in the way of a transfer fee so :D
 
He will sign after we get CL imo. Depending on how well we do next season, he may or may not stick on past that but sooner or later he will be going to Real Madrid. In my mind, the only questions are when and for how much. 30m EUR would be insulting.
 
The renewal of De Gea should have been closed a year ago, I think that is a mistake of the club to allow the last year situation with his main star. Madrid will be interested in any Spanish player with talent that is available , that will not change.
By the way, United was also sniffing around with Cristiano. Woodward loved to meet secretly with him in summer, without Madrid knowledge. Honor the contract , respect the club , but then the English teams come to la liga and start buying through chequebook power without worrying about the opinion of the club and who has trained the player (Herrera, for example) :)
 
shabadu84 said:
He will sign after we get CL imo. Depending on how well we do next season, he may or may not stick on past that but sooner or later he will be going to Real Madrid. In my mind, the only questions are when and for how much. 30m EUR would be insulting.
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There was an article from Spain recently that said he'd only go if Iker is not there in any capacity.

Apparently they do not like each other at all
 
I do not see DDG leaving. One article by AS and this place all of a sudden falls apart like a house of cards. I am sure Woody knows what to do, and his budget is literally unlimited. If DDG leaves it will be more for megabucks (30+ million quid) or we get Ronnie back. Hopefully neither happens and DDG stays for years to come at Manchester.
 
I know we have spent a lot in the last 2 years but I am not sure when 20 million became pocket change for United. Why would you want to waste 20 million on a player who has no future at the club, if he doesn't sign then he will certainly be sold
 
Revan said:
Well, if they sign De Gea, he'll be the second player they sign from us which we desperately want to keep. Can you imagine us signing their best player while they want to keep him? I definitely can't.

Lets think it like this, the absolute majority of players would choose Madrid over us (or any other team, probably bar Barca). They can offer better things than us in almsot everything, bar in support. It is really a no brainer.
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diarm said:
How many players have we had that can claim to be the best in the world in their position?
I'd say 2 in the last 10-15 years. Ronaldo and De Gea.


Fair point. A lot of people have mentioned Leno but I must admit I haven't seen him at all. How good is he?
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De Gea hasn't signed for them! So it still stands at just Ronaldo. One player. Its hardly cherry picking our best as was stated previously is it?
 
.Rossi said:
There was an article from Spain recently that said he'd only go if Iker is not there in any capacity.

Apparently they do not like each other at all
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I can't imagine from what. Wasn't DDG's first time with the national team this past WC? Any background on what that might stem from?

Though it's clear from the Mourinho days that Casillas doesn't mind playing politics so I wouldn't be surprised if there's truth to it
 
shabadu84 said:
I can't imagine from what. Wasn't DDG's first time with the national team this past WC? Any background on what that might stem from?

Though it's clear from the Mourinho days that Casillas doesn't mind playing politics so I wouldn't be surprised if there's truth to it
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Well like I said, it was a Spanish article...Will try dig it out tomorrow.

But, in it they basically said they pretty much hate each other....What for, I don't know. Could be petty gossip really.

Personally, I hope it's true
 
Great as he is, if we can replace him with Lloris or Leno, we'l be fine. IF he isnt signing, tell Madrid to pay up and take him this year, no freebies next year.
 
.Rossi said:
Well like I said, it was a Spanish article...Will try dig it out tomorrow.

But, in it they basically said they pretty much hate each other....What for, I don't know. Could be petty gossip really.

Personally, I hope it's true
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I read the same,the relationship is very cold or was the feeling in national team
 
carvajal said:
The renewal of De Gea should have been closed a year ago, I think that is a mistake of the club to allow the last year situation with his main star. Madrid will be interested in any Spanish player with talent that is available , that will not change.
By the way, United was also sniffing around with Cristiano. Woodward loved to meet secretly with him in summer, without Madrid knowledge. Honor the contract , respect the club , but then the English teams come to la liga and start buying through chequebook power without worrying about the opinion of the club and who has trained the player (Herrera, for example) :)
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The situation was different last year. We would have extended his contract if Fergie was still there.
 
carvajal said:
I read the same,the relationship is very cold or was the feeling in national team
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To be fair, Iker is not going to like, in his eyes, some no mark taking over. He is Mr. Madrid after all really

And I mean that in the "he's Madrid through and through" way. He's not going to want some Atletico guy coming in and taking over his slot
 
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