De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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Duffy said:
:lol: Nope, it just seems to be a bad habie that recent newbs promotees have, you're not the first I've challenged on it. Saw it a lot during the World Cup and it really got on my nerves. Nothing personal! ;)
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Don't worry bud. I take nothing on the internet personally.
Not sure I agree with your take on grammar though. I do however, manage to read your posts without getting anything "on my tits".

I for example, am not a great fan of people using text speak abbreviations such as "tbf" or shortening "going to" to "gonna".
May I suggest we each just focus on discussing and reading the football? We can leave the literary formatting to the newspaper editors.
 
simonhch said:
Hypothetically speaking, if he doesn't sign a new contract, what would the caf think of us sticking him in the reserves next season and letting him run his contract down? I am just a little sick and tired of Real coming and cherry picking our players. Honestly, unless the offer from them is 30M pounds or more, or we can get a good player swap, then I would prefer to stick to our guns. If we want to be seen as the biggest club in the world, then we can't be their feeder club.

But maybe I am just being petty.
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Why do people persist with this?! Did we cherry pick Di Maria from them? Ronaldo wanted to play for the team he supported as a child, that's it. The rest we were looking to offload.
 
I think if he wants to leave, we should let him leave. How did everything turn shite in just a day? :(
 
He's off regardless of these latest reports. He would have signed a new deal by now especially if it's close to the 200k being reported, you don't run your contract down without a reason.

Get Cech and let him battle it out with Valdes for the #1 spot, both are quality keepers.
 
ivaldo said:
Why do people persist with this?! Did we cherry pick Di Maria from them? Ronaldo wanted to play for the team he supported as a child, that's it. The rest we were looking to offload.
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Not exactly the sme thing to be fair. Di Maria was a bit similar to Beckham/Nistelrooy, not Ronaldo (club wanting to sell the player).

On the other case, De Gea and Ronald were players we wanted to keep. Ronaldo wasn't a fan of Madrid from his childhood. Didn't he said a couple of years before his transfer that he wants to play for Madrid or Barca? Not exactly what a fan would say. Correct me if I am wrong on this.
 
Revan said:
He was the most highly rated very young keeper in the world back then, and there were already people who were saying that he'll be the best in the world. In fact, his manager back then (Emeri) called him the best keeper in the world.

So, De Gea wasn't a guy that we found in the streets and made a star. He was a very talented and highly rated keeper that we signed for massive money. What did you expect to do with him when he was having a difficult time? Sell him for half the money and lose a potentially great keeper?

I also don't understand how people in this case expect loyalty. De Gea was a massive fan of Atletico. And left them when he was only 20, having had only 2 senior seasons.
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Was he highly rated before the transfer to us? Yes definitly. Was he good enough to be our goalkepper in the first season? Definitly no.

He made so much mistakes, every strike from outside the box was disaster waiting to happen, he was lost when opposition had corner kicks, he was bad one on one. Just think a little and you will know what i meant with this "headless chicken" comment.

I think SAF would never give him time and show such faith in him if he would knew he will go as soon as he will develop in WC goalkepper.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Why don't Madrid go for Courtois if they don't care about the Ath Madrid roots...
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Because David is spaniard, is better than Courtois and is in the last year of his contract while Courtois signed a new one the last year.
 
Revan said:
Not exactly the sme thing to be fair. Di Maria was a bit similar to Beckham/Nistelrooy, not Ronaldo (club wanting to sell the player).

On the other case, De Gea and Ronald were players we wanted to keep. Ronaldo wasn't a fan of Madrid from his childhood. Didn't he said a couple of years before his transfer that he wants to play for Madrid or Barca? Not exactly what a fan would say. Correct me if I am wrong on this.
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I'm not comparing Ronaldo to DM, I'm saying he's the isolated example, who else has left that we didn't want to leave? There's a bigger case for Real Madrid buying up our rejects than there is poaching our talent.
 
Kill 'em all said:
I think if he wants to leave, we should let him leave. How did everything turn shite in just a day? :(
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It didn't, people are just far keener to beleive negative shit than they are positive shit.
 
Jerch said:
Was he highly rated before the transfer to us? Yes definitly. Was he good enough to be our goalkepper in the first season? Definitly no.

He made so much mistakes, every strike from outside the box was disaster waiting to happen, he was lost when opposition had corner kicks, he was bad one on one. Just think a little and you will know what i meant with this "headless chicken" comment.

I think SAF would never give him time and show such faith in him if he would knew he will go as soon as he will develop in WC goalkepper.
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He was about 50 times better than our second keeper that season (Lindegaard). He was also the best keeper in the league in the second half of that season.

Don't fool yourself, our trust on him wasn't altruistic. We stood by him cause we expected that we'll benefit from him. He was the best keeper in the league on his second season here, our best player last season and this season he has been both best keeper in the league and our best player. He has been very good on 3.5/4 years here, while incredible on this season (arguably the best in the world). I think he has already payed off our trust on him.

If he leaves, I wish him all the best. If he stays, I'll be very happy (more than signing Ronaldo).

But loyalty in football is a think of the past, so I am definitely not expecting loyalty.
 
Jerch said:
Clubs who are step below us can't offer money we can, can't offer competiton for trophies, can't offer CL football and these clubs usually buy players to sell them couple of season later for a profit. They know it in advance they are a stepping stone to bigger clubs.
We bought him to be our long term solution for GK spot and gave him the opportunity because of that.

There is big difference between those clubs and us, we can ofer him all he want. But as SAF said once: "The grass is always greener on the other side."

But i can't stand people making excuses for him. There is no excuse, if he signs the contract than fair enough, if he doesn't i won't have the best opinion on him.
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Why are you dodging the question about not having respect for players who join United in similar circumstances?
 
Castia said:
Get Cech and let him battle it out with Valdes for the #1 spot, both are quality keepers.
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I can't see that happening.
Why would Cech leave Chelsea where he is competing with a good keeper for game time to join another team where he'd be competing for gametime?
If we guaranteed him a starting spot, Valdes would likely feck off.

Not saying I'm against the idea though. I reckon Cech is comfortably better than Valdes.
 
ivaldo said:
I'm not comparing Ronaldo to DM, I'm saying he's the isolated example, who else has left that we didn't want to leave? There's a bigger case for Real Madrid buying up our rejects than there is poaching our talent.
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Well, if they sign De Gea, he'll be the second player they sign from us which we desperately want to keep. Can you imagine us signing their best player while they want to keep him? I definitely can't.

Lets think it like this, the absolute majority of players would choose Madrid over us (or any other team, probably bar Barca). They can offer better things than us in almsot everything, bar in support. It is really a no brainer.
 
diarm said:
I can't see that happening.
Why would Cech leave Chelsea where he is competing with a good keeper for game time to join another team where he'd be competing for gametime?
If we guaranteed him a starting spot, Valdes would likely feck off.

Not saying I'm against the idea though. I reckon Cech is comfortably better than Valdes.
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More importantly, why would Chelsea sell him to us? They sold us Mata, at a bit of an inflated price, when they thought that we were not competing with them. It was tactical. Now, we are hoping to be going toe-to-toe with them for the title. Why would they strengthen a rival, for an amount probably less than 20 million? They will also likely have a number of other clubs after him.

Personally we would be better going for Oblak, Leno or Lloris. All are probably more getable, though Lloris would be harder and Leno has said that he is happy at Leverkusen.
 
Just sell him if he doesn't sign a new contract when he comes back from holiday, we take the probable 20m and finance a good replacement with them.
 
ivaldo said:
I'm not comparing Ronaldo to DM, I'm saying he's the isolated example, who else has left that we didn't want to leave?
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How many players have we had that can claim to be the best in the world in their position?
I'd say 2 in the last 10-15 years. Ronaldo and De Gea.
HabeasC said:
More importantly, why would Chelsea sell him to us? They sold us Mata, at a bit of an inflated price, when they thought that we were not competing with them. It was tactical. Now, we are hoping to be going toe-to-toe with them for the title. Why would they strengthen a rival, for an amount probably less than 20 million? They will also likely have a number of other clubs after him.

Personally we would be better going for Oblak, Leno or Lloris. All are probably more getable, though Lloris would be harder and Leno has said that he is happy at Leverkusen.
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Fair point. A lot of people have mentioned Leno but I must admit I haven't seen him at all. How good is he?
 
Sick of all of this De Gea stuff tbf. Just sell him and get Lloris, no point keeping an unhappy keeper in the squad.
 
Jerch said:
Was he highly rated before the transfer to us? Yes definitly. Was he good enough to be our goalkepper in the first season? Definitly no.

He made so much mistakes, every strike from outside the box was disaster waiting to happen, he was lost when opposition had corner kicks, he was bad one on one. Just think a little and you will know what i meant with this "headless chicken" comment.

I think SAF would never give him time and show such faith in him if he would knew he will go as soon as he will develop in WC goalkepper.
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You seem to have bought into the idea that managers of the other clubs seemed to have that year. Community Shield aside he didn't have any issues with long-ranged shots (which makes sense, given the fact that it was one of his strengths before joining us), despite every team we played shooting at every given opportunity.
 
HabeasC said:
More importantly, why would Chelsea sell him to us? They sold us Mata, at a bit of an inflated price, when they thought that we were not competing with them. It was tactical. Now, we are hoping to be going toe-to-toe with them for the title. Why would they strengthen a rival, for an amount probably less than 20 million? They will also likely have a number of other clubs after him.

Personally we would be better going for Oblak, Leno or Lloris. All are probably more getable, though Lloris would be harder and Leno has said that he is happy at Leverkusen.
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Leno would probably be my top choice (well, Lloris would be my top choice, but I can't see that happening, so not counting him). Very good already, physically good for EPL, and Bayern have Neuer for many other years, so won't like to sign him. A bit like De Gea a couple of years ago (though not as good) but without the fear of losing him.

He would leave Leverkusen if we want to sign him. Money, trophies, fame etc.
 
Revan said:
He was about 50 times better than our second keeper that season (Lindegaard). He was also the best keeper in the league in the second half of that season.

Don't fool yourself, our trust on him wasn't altruistic. We stood by him cause we expected that we'll benefit from him. He was the best keeper in the league on his second season here, our best player last season and this season he has been both best keeper in the league and our best player. He has been very good on 3.5/4 years here, while incredible on this season (arguably the best in the world). I think he has already payed off our trust on him.

If he leaves, I wish him all the best. If he stays, I'll be very happy (more than signing Ronaldo).

But loyalty in football is a think of the past, so I am definitely not expecting loyalty.
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I can't agree with you about his contribution especially in the first season. It was rolercoaster from start to finish. Last season and this season i can't argue, best player in the team but he really made a big step forward this season. It were still a mistakes here and there last season but this season i can think just of one mistake (i think it was against Aston Villa two weeks ago).

But the bolded parts are important for me. We expected we will benefit from him and when he really became one of the best GK he will leave. Feck that i say.

And maybe i am to old fashion about the game but i still expect loyalty. I expected it from him and expect it from every player.
If you will say to me now that Herrera will became WC midfielder in two season and he will be of i would say sell him now so he will never became WC. This teams are our competition in CL and we need them to be the best team. We are not the selling club and players should know that before they sign a contract with us.
 
Jerch said:
I can't agree with you about his contribution especially in the first season. It was rolercoaster from start to finish. Last season and this season i can't argue, best player in the team but he really made a big step forward this season. It were still a mistakes here and there last season but this season i can think just of one mistake (i think it was against Aston Villa two weeks ago).

But the bolded parts are important for me. We expected we will benefit from him and when he really became one of the best GK he will leave. Feck that i say.

And maybe i am to old fashion about the game but i still expect loyalty. I expected it from him and expect it from every player.
If you will say to me now that Herrera will became WC midfielder in two season and he will be of i would say sell him now so he will never became WC. This teams are our competition in CL and we need them to be the best team. We are not the selling club and players should know that before they sign a contract with us.
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He was incredible on the second half of his first season here. He made a few mistakes at the beginning (Charity Shield, Liverpool on FA Cup, Blackburn) but after he got benched on January for 3-4 games, he was incredible. Just look some of the saves he made:



The save against Chelsea (Mata) is the best save I have ever seen in football. He made many awesome saves and kept us in games many times.

On his second season he was the best keeper in the league (was even chosen though) and on last year he was as good. This season he has been playing on a level of his own.

You can hope for loyalty, but not expect it. Unless we have some world class mancs.
 
Wowi said:
You seem to have bought into the idea that managers of the other clubs seemed to have that year. Community Shield aside he didn't have any issues with long-ranged shots (which makes sense, given the fact that it was one of his strengths before joining us), despite every team we played shooting at every given opportunity.
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It was one of his weaknesses before joining actually, he conceded more shots from outside the box than anyone else in Spain if memory serves.

Quickly rectified though.
 
diarm said:
Fair point. A lot of people have mentioned Leno but I must admit I haven't seen him at all. How good is he?
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He has always been impressive whenever I have seen him, though it is hard to directly compare goalies. Definitely not as good as De Gea, but is up there with the young goalkeepers.

If you look at the Spanish Madrid forums a lot there would actually prefer Leno to De Gea funnily enough. Though this has a lot to do with De Gea's gaffe reputation and also that they think he'd be tough to get.
 
I'm not even sure i want him to sign a new contract to be honest, its plainly obvious he doesn't want to be here. If Madrid decide to go for someone else and then DeGea suddenly decides to sign a new contract, it will just show he doesn't want to be here, so by by DeGea, go and join that circus.
 
I personally don't think this is comparable to the Ronaldo situation. Maybe its cos I was younger and had grown attached to Ronnie, but De Gea never really struck a chord with me the way Ronaldo did. De Gea was never universally hated in the same way Ronaldo was. He had question marks over him, but it was never in the same vindictive vein as it was for Ronnie. For Ronaldo to come back from that, the club had to go out of their way to give him the platform. Whereas for De Gea, I think it was more a case of a young player growing into his role at a top club, and this process was more about him than the club.

Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed his years at Utd, and he has performed brilliantly in the last couple of years. But I honestly can't blame him if he leaves. For instance, we will most likely get third this season after a remarkable run of performances, but there is still a question mark over whether we can sustain a title challenge. Real, for all their cuntery, are in the Semis of the CL, won it last season and are challenging Barca and Bayern to be one of the top teams in Europe. We had a horror show of a season last year and only now seem to be stabilising but are still some way off a credible title challenge against a Chelsea who seem to be some way short of the best in Europe.

Besides, its not as if DDG is irreplaceable either. Yes, he's very very good but he doesn't stand out on his own in his age group, let alone throughout the world. I trust LVG to find a worthy successor for both the short to medium, and also the long-term.
 
Revan said:
He was incredible on the second half of his first season here. He made a few mistakes at the beginning (Charity Shield, Liverpool on FA Cup, Blackburn) but after he got benched on January for 3-4 games, he was incredible. Just look some of the saves he made:

The save against Chelsea (Mata) is the best save I have ever seen in football. He made many awesome saves and kept us in games many times.

On his second season he was the best keeper in the league (was even chosen though) and on last year he was as good. This season he has been playing on a level of his own.

You can hope for loyalty, but not expect it. Unless we have some world class mancs.
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Well you can find a good saves from every goal kepper. Just youtube Kuszczak and you will know what i mean.
And i didn't said he was bad from first season on. He was good but as you said levels below this season performances. And this bothers me the most. As soon as he is as good as he can be he is off.

But i will say i still have hope that the club and De Gea camp just left this to work it at the end of the season. If he will sign new contract this would be the best transfer window ever even if we don't buy anyone, if he is off it will hurt us regardless who we will sign.
 
Bridges have been well and truly burned for me. He can feck off.
 
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Atletico Madrid fans had that feeling of sadness and disloyalty when they lost the goalkeeper who had been educated from childhood, just because a foreign team made a financial and sporting offer that they could not match. I think he was more than a promise, was the best young goalkeeper in Spain by miles.
His past in Atlético will be forgotten after 5 minutes. Madrid wants De Gea and only De Gea, so United can use that situation to get some extra millions.As @Revan I think that loyalty is something from another football era. I´d say that Marca needs to create some drama, some difficulty in all this so I wouldn´t be surprised if someone goes to Manchester to talk to David,
"David, do you want to play in Madrid" , "sorry, I am now allowed to talk about that" , more than enough to start the novel
 
Jerch said:
Well you can find a good saves from every goal kepper. Just youtube Kuszczak and you will know what i mean.
And i didn't said he was bad from first season on. He was good but as you said levels below this season performances. And this bothers me the most. As soon as he is as good as he can be he is off.

But i will say i still have hope that the club and De Gea camp just left this to work it at the end of the season. If he will sign new contract this would be the best transfer window ever even if we don't buy anyone, if he is off it will hurt us regardless who we will sign.
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Please do it and see if you can.

And it wasn't one save, there were tons of fantastic saves he made game after game on his first season here. He cost us some points, but also got us many other points. I remember quite well that Caf was extremely happy with him and many were calling him the best in the league in the end of the first season.

Don't let the media cloud your judgement. Pundits in England usually change the mind on a player a year or two after the player changes the performances.
 
Gone from loving this guy to being slightly put off by him. Bit shitty of him to turn his back on his Atleti roots.
 
Its a fresh start now under Van Gaal, we are going places next season and anyone who doesn't want to be here can feck off, DeGea, DiMaria, anyone.

30 million Euros release clause, Euros, not even pounds, Euros. He may as well of just said "look your club is shit, it means nothing to me and i want out. How can i make it anymore clear to you Woody?".

Twat.
 
Revan said:
Please do it and see if you can.

And it wasn't one save, there were tons of fantastic saves he made game after game on his first season here. He cost us some points, but also got us many other points. I remember quite well that Caf was extremely happy with him and many were calling him the best in the league in the end of the first season.

Don't let the media cloud your judgement. Pundits in England usually change the mind on a player a year or two after the player changes the performances.
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You just walked on the mine;)
 
RetroStu said:
Its a fresh start now under Van Gaal, we are going places next season and anyone who doesn't want to be here can feck off, DeGea, DiMaria, anyone.

30 million Euros release clause, Euros, not even pounds, Euros. He may as well of just said "look your club is shit, it means nothing to me and i want out. How can i make it anymore clear to you Woody?".

Twat.
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The money isn't important to me. If he formally asks to leave, then obviously Woodward will try and get the best deal but if he doesn't want to be here then we should let him go. I'd hope for the same with any other player.
 
Jerch said:

You just walked on the mine;)
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Really? These are best saves on his career, not in a single season. 'Small' difference there.

And it isn't nowhere as good as the video with De Gea saves on that season which I posted.
 
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