De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season


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I agree with this.

One bad season and suddenly its all doom and gloom and we dont deserve to have any good players. Christ.

Two bad seasons. Or, to put it another way, 2 years of shit football and shit results.

We have only had 1 season out of the CL.

So last season losing in a COC semi-final on penalties was not really challenging. But for a brain fart by a player we could quite easily have been in the semi of the FA this year. Last year we were not that far off beating Bayern, sure we fell away when they equalized away, but we were hardly embarrassed compared to other clubs.

We are not the shit that so many make out. There is also very few clubs that are better than us that don't have a comparable goal keeper. In England, I doubt Chelsea would do a swap, Barca and Real, again maybe/maybe not, Bayern doubt it. I doubt PSG would interest DDG. So where is all this better options?

It's not a matter of us "not deserving to keep him", that's not what's being said. What's being said is that he "deserves better than this" - and he does.

I would love for that "better than this" to happen at United, but if it's not happening then people need to get real...

If you were in his position and had a choice between playing in a country you're not from, in a team playing utter shit and challenging for 1 CoC semi-final in 2 fecking years... or challenging for La Liga, Copa Del Rey and the CL trophy every season, in the city you come from, which would you pick...?

People are acting like I'm saying I want him to go - of course I don't.

But you need to get real. This is what happens when you spend years without challenging for anything of worth. This is what happens when you spend years playing utter dross.

You might not like it, and I might not like it, but it's reality.
 
If he leaves us it is gonna be the biggest loss after Fergie for the club( at least for short term)
Ever?

I don't think its even close to losing an extremely important outfield player.

I would love him to stay and he is a world class keeper but utd can build next season without him.
 
We invested £19m on him plus a further £15m in wages making him the second most expensive goalkeeper of all time. We put faith in him when he had a very shaky first season and every pundit out there called him shit and an expensive failure and we have coached him up from a good keeper with potential to a world class keeper with a claim for being the best in the world and now that we are in transition he "deserves better than us".

I seriously question if some people on here actually support the club. Despite how much we have invested in him, two seasons without winning a trophy and he suddenly "deserves" to be at a better club than United. As if we are West Brom and just so happened to hit the jackpot by signing him in the first place and letting him develop himself.

This.
 
Two bad seasons. Or, to put it another way, 2 years of shit football and shit results.



It's not a matter of us "not deserving to keep him", that's not what's being said. What's being said is that he "deserves better than this" - and he does.

I would love for that "better than this" to happen at United, but if it's not happening then people need to get real...

If you were in his position and had a choice between playing in a country you're not from, in a team playing utter shit and challenging for 1 CoC semi-final in 2 fecking years... or challenging for La Liga, Copa Del Rey and the CL trophy every season, in the city you come from, which would you pick...?

People are acting like I'm saying I want him to go - of course I don't.

But you need to get real. This is what happens when you spend years without challenging for anything of worth. This is what happens when you spend years playing utter dross.

You might not like it, and I might not like it, but it's reality.
But you are exaggerating. It is not years of shit. That is what I am responding to.

There is no concrete proof that a bigger and better club than united want DDG. If he wants to go back to Madrid it is probably for different reasons than you are arguing.

There is also no proof that United are not going to be competing for trophies. This period is absolutely nothing like the late 60s to early 90s.
 
Two bad seasons. Or, to put it another way, 2 years of shit football and shit results.

I may be wrong, but as a GK I dont think he is overly really affected by the "shit football" when we have the ball.

And for the records, the "shit football" has been for a lot more than 2 years.


The concept of a player "deserving better" than Man Utd is just silly. We bought him as a promising - but unproven - prospect, and we stuck by him in the first few months/season where he looked really shaky. Basically we made him into the player he has now become. I would argue that having inexperienced defenders in front of him at times has likely been beneficial - in forcing De Gea to become more commanding and authoritative, as well as simply meaning he has had more to deal with at times (more saves to make, defensive errors etc).
It is quite possible that if De Gea had simply been behind prime-Rio/Vidic, he wouldnt have become as good a keeper as he has done.

Now the reason I am saying this is not because I think he owes us a lifelong debt of loyalty due to the above, but rather that whilst at the moment he is seen as one of the top dogs, with some shaky players in front of him - rewind a couple of years and he was the weak link. Your notion of "deserving better" is tantamount to simply saying that at any given point, our top players should just feck off to Spain because they are better players than the rest of the team.


Also, what @Pexbo said.


And for the records, my vote on the poll is "no" at the moment.
 
It really wouldn't be that big a loss if we lost De Gea imo, Everyone would obviously prefer him staying but there is some quality goalkeepers out there in Petr Cech and Lloris who can easily replace him. What we really lack however, is a cutting edge attacking player who can score a bag full of goals every season, if we can get Bale out of this deal then we would probably be better off anyway.
 
It really wouldn't be that big a loss if we lost De Gea imo, Everyone would obviously prefer him staying but there is some quality goalkeepers out there in Petr Cech and Lloris who can easily replace him. What we really lack however, is a cutting edge attacking player who can score a bag full of goals every season, if we can get Bale out of this deal then we would probably be better off anyway.

Haven't seen Bale play much this season then?
 
Haven't seen Bale play much this season then?

Even this season he's been better than any of our players.

Recently he has looked devoid of confidence and he is playing in a incredibly hostile environment, Considering how good he is and has been for the last 3 years he isn't playing great right now. But he's one of the worlds best forwards and I'd want him here any day.
 
Even this season he's been better than any of our players.

Recently he has looked devoid of confidence and he is playing in a incredibly hostile environment, Considering how good he is and has been for the last 3 years he isn't playing great right now. But he's one of the worlds best forwards and I'd want him here any day.

Except De Gea has had a better season than him, no question. I do think signing Bale would be fantastic and agree with the rest.
 
If we sell another proper feck off future legend (and only injury looks likely to keep De Gea from that career) to fecking Real Madrid and we don't get another player back when thy're just going to give them up anyways, I'll be furious. Robben and Sneijder left the summer we sold them Ronaldo and either would have been great fits with Rooney in a front 4.

I'm assuming Ronaldo, Benzema, Isco, James, Modric, Marcelo, Ramos and maybe even Carvajal (spanish, young) are not going to leave but that leaves Bale, Kroos (if they want a traditional DM next to Modric after they go out in the CL this could become plausible), Varane and even Jese would be a great addition. Supposedly Zidane loves those last 2 guys, though, so more likely we'd just be selling De Gea for some massive fee.

Illaramendi hasn't played well there, but he's a very good player and would improve us in midfield, I think, playing alongside Herrera in front of Blind in tougher games and maybe even beating out Blind in easier ones.
 
I wouldn't blame De Gea if he did leave to be honest, if it was to Real Madrid. Home city, huge club, massive money, guaranteed trophies and he'd keep his missus happy. However, we should have wrapped up an extension to his contract a long time ago.

Saying that, I really hope we just give him an offer he can't refuse and keep him for as long as possible. He really is unbelievable.
 
If Dave was to stay and play for the rest of his career he really could go down as a serious United legend. He has the likeability and the talent for it. Whether he can get that at Madrid is another question but I don't think he can. Maybe he wants to win trophys instead so I can't blame him at all.
 
OP updated with the latest vote, now you have been reminded that you can change your vote.

Quite a shift against Dave staying, now 1/3 think he's off.

I would have thought the fickleness of this Forum would have shown a positive effect of today's performance.
 
DDG>United for him.

And not only that he reckons we wont fight for titles for years and years..

What are gibbering on about, man? I think we could've challenged for the title this season - I just don't think we've been good enough with what we've got at our disposal.

When I say 'years without challenging for a trophy', I'm quite clearly talking about the past 2 years, not the next.

And again, what I'm saying is that if we fail to get top 4 again, and a team like Real come in strong for De Gea, you would have to be realistic that he deserves to be challenging at the highest level.

That 'highest level' should be with us, but if we can't deliver that - as we haven't for 2 years now - he'll get it elsewhere.
 
What are gibbering on about, man? I think we could've challenged for the title this season - I just don't think we've been good enough with what we've got at our disposal.

When I say 'years without challenging for a trophy', I'm quite clearly talking about the past 2 years, not the next.

And again, what I'm saying is that if we fail to get top 4 again, and a team like Real come in strong for De Gea, you would have to be realistic that he deserves to be challenging at the highest level.

That 'highest level' should be with us, but if we can't deliver that - as we haven't for 2 years now - he'll get it elsewhere.
If you put it that way.. :)

If we dont get 4th place this year I wouldnt be surprised if he went.

Its all about if he sees future with us and thinks we'll be at the top or near the top soon.

I just dont like he deserves better posts. Although come to tink of it I get what you mean.

I mean I dont care if he deserves better, I care if we'll have a top keeper or not. :)
 
Desveres a better club? I know that loyalty in todays game is a rare quantity, but it was after all United who turned de Gea into a world class 'keeper and stood by him as the had to find his feet here. If anything the club deserves to keep his world class services for another few years.

Anyway, I'm confident that he'll sign soon.
 
I think he is waiting till the summer to see where we stand in terms of the Champions League.
 
De Gea is waiting for us to see how we will finish this..
We need to finish strong, get a CL spot and get this kid signed up for the next 5 years..
 
Surprised no one has mentioned that his girlfriend tweeted about the match yesterday, surely a positive sign?

Or am I clutching at straws? :nervous:
 
I think he is waiting till the summer to see where we stand in terms of the Champions League.

That's the way I see it too. There's absolutely no benefit from his point of view to signing a contract now. And he would be right, he may as well wait until the Summer.
 
Doesn't really say much. Of course he would start for RM if he was there. That's not to say he is going there though.
 
Let's just save a little bit of time and ask for Ronaldo.

I've spent the last few windows hoping for him to come back, I'm going to spend this one hoping he doesn't!

He's ego is just all consuming now, I doubt LvG would want that sort of character here anyway, the ship has sailed and he's best left where he is now.
 
I like Mitten, but he knows nothing. His info is always wrong.
 
"Credible" voices in Madrid, what a fecking laugh.

No such thing as a credible voice in Madrid, they say what they're told to say.
 
Don't know why Mitten is held in such high regard. Various times throughout last summer he was wrong.
 
I've never really understand the reverence shown to him on here. Maybe partly because people seemed to think he was the oracle of all things United for a period there. In reality, based on what I've seen, he seems like a decent bloke who reports information that he gets. That he's being fed duds at times doesn't really change that. Equally I don't think you can discount the fact that his job is, at least in part, to drive traffic to UWS. People should be able to take the information for what it is rather than demanding that every aspect of it turns out to be true.
 
Any journo is only as good as their sources, and his sources are either shit or are fed lines to give him.
 
I think De Gea is just waiting to see how we finish this season. If we manage to make it to the top 4, he'll sign. And if he does sign, there will be enough clauses about him moving on depending on our season finishes.

If we don't make it to the CL, we will need to brace ourselves. I think the Moyes fiasco happened at a very wrong time. Had we finished well last season, his contract would have been signed last year only and the current scenario wouldn't have played out.
 
Sunday was one of the few Manchester United games this season when David de Gea’s brilliance wasn’t brought into focus.

United’s player of the season would have had a low profile weekend had his girlfriend not made seemingly disparaging remarks about Manchester.

I’ve seen the footage and while Edurne Garcia is never going to be employed to promote Manchester, she has a point in what she says - the nice parts of Manchester are not immediately obvious.

As the first city of the industrial revolution, parks and open spaces were compromised by factories and housing. Manchester misses a great central park like Madrid’s Retiro or London’s royal parks, but while the weather raises constant grumbles, there are thousands of Spaniards who’ve made the city their home since the economic crash and they’ve grown to become very fond of England’s ever improving second city.

The chance of De Gea staying long term are slim. He’s fine in Manchester and hasn’t made a definite decision on where he’ll be next season, but there are credible voices in Madrid who think he’ll start next season as Real Madrid’s number one.

Unlike most footballers, De Gea was born in a city with two world class football teams. He’s played for Atletico and it’s very hard to resist Real Madrid, especially as they play in his home city, where his best friends live and where his partner, who will sing Spain’s Eurovision song in May, is from and lives.

The pulls are significant.

Madrid is also a great city, a self-confident capital, albeit one beset by terrible traffic congestion. It’s climbing out of the rubble of Spain’s economic crisis which dented all of Spain (and saw a bigger influx of Spaniards to Manchester than at any time in history), but Madrid’s self-assuredness is matched by Real Madrid, that great Spanish side who did well enough to reach the 1968 European Cup semi-final before being knocked out by England’s Manchester United.

United aren’t daft. They could match and beat Madrid’s offer on wages, more so with the pound’s continuing rise against the Euro, but it’s not always about money.

United will try and get De Gea to sign a contract so that they can achieve a significant price for the world’s best goalkeeper. United can then justify the sale with a big profit, as they did with the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo, not that fans will be pleased if De Gea leaves.

However, it’s not just what United do with their current number one, but what happens at the Bernabeu.

Many factors can prevent a transfer going through and unfortunately, the stars are not aligning in United’s favour. Iker Casillas’ reign as Madrid’s undisputed number one is over.

He’s the club captain and the second highest earner at the club after Ronaldo, but he’s been under pressure because of his mistakes. This Sunday’s clasico is vital.

Casillas’ relationship with Jose Mourinho broke down in 2012-13, but Real Madrid were reluctant to sell him as they felt they would have been left with just one quality goalkeeper.

The man known as Saint Iker was also, with good reason, one of the most popular players in the history of the club, but his stock has dipped and a free transfer could smooth any departure.

Madrid, like most big European clubs, now have two top class ’keepers since they signed Keylor Navas. They also intend to loan River Plate’s Augusto Batalla, but he’s 18 and far from fully formed as De Gea is.

It will be a shame if De Gea departs. He could have played for close to two decades and pushed been a top three appearance holder at United.

He still might, but Victor Valdés, 33, didn’t come to Manchester to sit on a bench. He’s also one of the planet’s best goalkeepers and he’s loving life in Manchester. Crucially, so is his partner and their children.

Valdés’ English has really come on too. Of course it helps that United were one of the few clubs who could pay him more than €5 million per year, but he’s training superbly and could have gone to Liverpool, where he would have likely been number one.

Valdés also had firm interest from Juventus, but chose United.

De Gea will be lucky enough to have a choice, but don’t put your shirt on him staying at Old Trafford for long.

Andy Mitten: Man Utd are facing huge battle to keep David De Gea out of Real Madrid's clutches
 
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