I have no doubt that Real is a very tempting club for De Gea and I think only if we manage to get back into the CL and make him a really good offer that will blow whatever Real offers out of the water but that will most likely be very hard knowing that they can pay at least as much as we can. I'm not saying he will be 100% gone but we better determine early on which keeper we want to go for if he wants to leave in the summer.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Got a feeling Jorge Mendes will have a big say in whether DDG signs a new contract or not.
If Utd do not sign Falcao (hopefully we don't) then i could see Mendes advising DDG to sign for Madrid.
If Utd do not sign Falcao (hopefully we don't) then i could see Mendes advising DDG to sign for Madrid.
You guys are eternal optimists, seems obvious to me that he's gone, and seemed to be the case, at least to me since Valdes signing, lately I'm more in hope we can just get a decent fee from those c****.
i doubt he's that petty.
Only if we get him in a straight exchange or De Gea + a paltry sum. It won't soften any blow if we let him go for 30m Euros and then pay 120m Euros for Bale.
There were 9 keepers and a few years between Big Pete and VDS. Don't want that to happen again. Finish in the top 4 and he'll sign a contract, imo.
You make it sound so simple, Ronaldo from Portugal left us for that shower of shit when we were the undisputed no.1 team in the world at that time, Even if we we make the Champions League, we'd not be a favourite to progress deep into the competion next year or win it, and we'd only be seen as outside contenders for the domestic league, Madrid every year are favourites for their league and CL, a tier or two above our performance level since Sir Alex left (hate to say it), not to mention De Gea is born and raised in Madrid... his girlfriend is a Real fan and spoken in the past that she wants him back in Spain.
Real always get the players they go for, Its hard to remember one or two examples of them not getting their man, including the likes of Zidane, and tempting Figo from their biggest rivals. etc etc the trend spanning a good 2 decades now.
He likes us, appreciates that the fans love him, but other than that one lone thing, I just cant see where the optimisim for him stayig stems from.
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There are so many reasons why he would sign for Madrid. There is not much we can do if he decides to leave and I'm sure he will at one point. Let's just hope we can keep him for as long as possible
Isn't that the point of things like the Bebe bribes, to make sure he doesn't feck us over?
I wonder how much he's made from United/our players. Has to be 20m+
Which is exactly why i dont think he will be petty about this. In a world of FFP, United are in a strong position for signing players. PSG for all their money were priced out of diMaria purely because they couldn't balance the books after buying him. Mendes would be mental to cut off a huge revenue stream in united purely because Falcao hasn't worked out.
I don't think he'll do that, it'd just sever his ties with United, as De Gea is crucial in getting back to the elite stage. I think we'll pick up one of his other clients to sweeten him a little, someone like Moutinho or an unknown youngster. There's always the annual talk of signing Ronaldo.
This is key. People are going on like Mendes has all the power and Utd are completely dependent on what he decides. He needs Utd much more than Utd need him, and he'd be stupid, long term, to antagonize the club over De Gea. If it goes through, it'll be because Dave wants to go back to Madrid/wants to play for Real.
He doesn't seem like the kind of character to force a move, so if Madrid want him in the summer we would be in a pretty strong negotiating position. I wouldn't mind if he left as long as we got Bale in return. Play 433 and have the front 3 as Di Maria, Rooney and Bale. That would be the best front 3 in England without doubt.
Manchester would become approximately 63% less attractive city if De Gea and Edurne were to leave... they really need to think about the bigger picture.
Did the whole "Mendes being his agent" thing lead you to this revelation.
Agree its unlikely Mendes will be vindictive over Falcao, he'll get his payday for him anyway, Im sure there will be other teams from Italy or wherever interested in him.
The De Gea situation will be resolved in isolation and will hinge on what De Gea himself wants, nothing else.
Im less optimistic than I was but I still think he will probably stay. Especially if we get 3rd.
The De Gea situation will be resolved in isolation and will hinge on what De Gea himself wants, nothing else.
Im less optimistic than I was but I still think he will probably stay. Especially if we get 3rd.
This is the most depressing thing at the club right now, not only the strong likelihood that we'll lose the best keeper in the league who also happens to be a very likable player, but that we'll replace him with a 33 year old who's coming off a bad injury and is crap on crosses, this would not happen at Real, Barca or Bayern, it's a huge back step in trying to return to where we were.
I really hope we can somehow manage to keep him. However chances are quite huge that RM will try everything possible. He plays in a position in which they urgently need someone and he is one of the best in the world.
He is born in Madrid and he also fits into that posterboy category what seems to be so important for RM.
Also with no Worldcup this year I am not aware of any other potential Galactico popping up before summer.
Would love us to get his contract sorted out with him to stay - however if this is not possible I hope we can get the best out of the deal.
Maybe I would offer them Januzaj as well. Don`t get me wrong - I really rate the boy but if RM puts the correct amount on the table we should think about it.
Bale going the other way would be great.
He is born in Madrid and he also fits into that posterboy category what seems to be so important for RM.
Also with no Worldcup this year I am not aware of any other potential Galactico popping up before summer.
Would love us to get his contract sorted out with him to stay - however if this is not possible I hope we can get the best out of the deal.
Maybe I would offer them Januzaj as well. Don`t get me wrong - I really rate the boy but if RM puts the correct amount on the table we should think about it.
Bale going the other way would be great.
My point is Mendes seems to be like no other agent, and there were some talk a few weeks ago that if Falcao wasn't signed by Utd then this would impact the DDG contract renewal-not sure if this is true but what is clear is that he controls/manages a number of the super players so it is possible this may also impact our summer transfer targets.
Considering we passed up on players like Hazard because we wouldn't pay his agent £6M, the thought that we are having to pander to Mendes because he, somehow, owns the soul of De Gea, seems to be a bit of a turnaround and somewhat far fetched.
Can't bring myself to vote. My opinion on him leaving (this summer specifically) changes all the time.
Even if he signed a new deal this week, I wouldn't know what to expect.
Even if he signed a new deal this week, I wouldn't know what to expect.
You can change your vote at will, today you can vote Yes, tomorrow you can change it to No. That's the beauty of the De Gea Index.
I would say there are a couple of pretty important differences between that situation and this.
If youre like me you will find it hard to change the vote you originally made regardless of changing feelings about it. Its a status quo bias. Also, I refuse to be swayed by constant media speculation, even if such speculation does often end up having some basis in fact.
Seems like the club's social media have been doing their bit to woo him of sorts - seen a few times recently where they've updated our Facebook cover page with DDG and also putting out stories of how he has been in stunning form and the best saves of the season so far compilation.
Hope we take the same measures we took with keeping Rooney, give him the world.
Hope we take the same measures we took with keeping Rooney, give him the world.
Let's be honest - what can we offer De Gea that Madrid can't?
Can you blame him really if he went, taking red tinted glasses off. A stronger side back home wants him, and will pay him equally to what we pay him at least. More chance to win things as well, and he will be home with his family and girlfriend.
If it wasn't football, anyone in a similar scenario would do it.
Can you blame him really if he went, taking red tinted glasses off. A stronger side back home wants him, and will pay him equally to what we pay him at least. More chance to win things as well, and he will be home with his family and girlfriend.
If it wasn't football, anyone in a similar scenario would do it.
Loyalty, he wasn´t up to the task in the begining but we stuck with him.. And even when things haven´t been great he has been supported by our fans and management more than anyone.. And rightly so.. I will bet my bottom dollar that he will be voted keeper of the year and United´s player of the season for the second year in row. If he has any doubt´s where his next 3-5 years should be spent he surely has to be blind and deaf not to notice the obvious choice! And as one can see things aren´t really rosey in Madrid people booing Ronaldo and Ancelotti who was the second coming before Xmas has gotten some serious stick after new year.. That should tell him that things here aren´t really that bad or in fact just great! And even if United would not kick into gear he would still have one of the best staff to work with and great fans to cheer him up and on top of that a shit load of cash. And a chance to move to Madrid before he turns 30 so he isn´t in any hurry at all, plus there are girls in Manchester that would gladly keep him warm at night if his Spanish senorita turns a frown and refuses to come to Machester..
The Spanish are gushing over brave Joe Hart this morning. Can't Madrid go and nick him instead?
BEBE for 7 million and low wages is not like spending 40 million with high wages on falcao. The loan itself must have been the deal i would Believe.
Andy Mitten writes regularly for the official scandinavian supporter club. He has some inside info and here's what he has to say:
"United are trying to get De Gea to renew his contract so his resell value increases. As I've mentioned before, teammates of De Gea believe that Real Madrid will get him if they want him.
There are many reasons for him to go home. The most important reasons are because his girlfriend, his family and his friends are living there. Real Madrid isn't a small club either. De Gea likes both the city Manchester and the club United itself, but to stop a "Madrileño" from going to Real Madrid - even though he supports Atletico - is impossible. Keep in mind that Victor Valdes is a great goalkeeper too."
(I translated the Norwegian article into English so it might not be 100% correct. The original article was translated from English too).
"United are trying to get De Gea to renew his contract so his resell value increases. As I've mentioned before, teammates of De Gea believe that Real Madrid will get him if they want him.
There are many reasons for him to go home. The most important reasons are because his girlfriend, his family and his friends are living there. Real Madrid isn't a small club either. De Gea likes both the city Manchester and the club United itself, but to stop a "Madrileño" from going to Real Madrid - even though he supports Atletico - is impossible. Keep in mind that Victor Valdes is a great goalkeeper too."
(I translated the Norwegian article into English so it might not be 100% correct. The original article was translated from English too).
Like I've said all along and it seems ever more likely to be the case now.
He WILL sign another contract and then he will be a Real Madrid player NEXT summer.
He WILL sign another contract and then he will be a Real Madrid player NEXT summer.
But, but, we were confident of getting him to sign.
What are you talking about? Valdes is not replacing De Gea.
You know teams can have two decent goalkeepers?
I'd be very surprised if Valdes doesn't start next season as number 1. We won't be able to buy anyone better than him (or at least better than when he was playing for Barca).
Think that we have to accept that he is going and start to think of the best item that we can get from the Real Madrid second hand shop in exchange.
I hope someone as a legendary figure of the club ie Giggs or Fergie really do sit him down and highlight to him the downfalls of moving to Madrid can be.
He's at a club where the fans worship him; I don't know a United supporter personally who don't rank him outside the top 3 in the world right now, nor rate him as our most important player.
If you take a long hard look at the club right now (Madrid), do any of the top players there look incredibly happy? You have Ronaldo who is now swearing back at the players, Bale who is jeered by the fans, and Casillas who has been well and truly stripped of "saint Iker" since his fallout with Mourinho.
It's an embarrassment of a club, and I don't imagine players having long careers much longer like you saw with the likes of Casillas and Raul anymore. The flavour of the year seems to be more common nowadays, and the churn rate will continue that way in my opinion. De Gea came under a lot of pressure during his early days here, but the 2 main figures that stuck by him were the manager and the fans. He is now nearly 25, and going to Madrid will hand him more responsibility than he ever had at United, and one major mistake will most likely lead to more than anything he experienced here, especially is it results in a loss of a game.
I know I am saying this from a United view, and would love nothing more than to see the #1 shirt be his for the next decade, but I have no power in making him stay. It's the powers around him which really have to act now and convince him, as well as the board members who have to pay him in respect to what he deserves. In terms of what he provides as a goalie, no other in a competing team even comes close.
He's at a club where the fans worship him; I don't know a United supporter personally who don't rank him outside the top 3 in the world right now, nor rate him as our most important player.
If you take a long hard look at the club right now (Madrid), do any of the top players there look incredibly happy? You have Ronaldo who is now swearing back at the players, Bale who is jeered by the fans, and Casillas who has been well and truly stripped of "saint Iker" since his fallout with Mourinho.
It's an embarrassment of a club, and I don't imagine players having long careers much longer like you saw with the likes of Casillas and Raul anymore. The flavour of the year seems to be more common nowadays, and the churn rate will continue that way in my opinion. De Gea came under a lot of pressure during his early days here, but the 2 main figures that stuck by him were the manager and the fans. He is now nearly 25, and going to Madrid will hand him more responsibility than he ever had at United, and one major mistake will most likely lead to more than anything he experienced here, especially is it results in a loss of a game.
I know I am saying this from a United view, and would love nothing more than to see the #1 shirt be his for the next decade, but I have no power in making him stay. It's the powers around him which really have to act now and convince him, as well as the board members who have to pay him in respect to what he deserves. In terms of what he provides as a goalie, no other in a competing team even comes close.
He's going...sooner or later.
And my god, it hurts saying that. Honestly think he will be the best in the world. We arent good enough right now to hold on to him.
Its seriously painful thinking De Gea will be playing for Madrid next season. Ugh.
And my god, it hurts saying that. Honestly think he will be the best in the world. We arent good enough right now to hold on to him.
Its seriously painful thinking De Gea will be playing for Madrid next season. Ugh.
How much do people think we will get for him ?
Would we get 40 million ?
Would we get 40 million ?
Not with one year left on his contract
I'm confident he'll sign and make us a few quid,whether he signs and stays on is another story.
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