The quotes I saw were "Manchester is ugly as hell". feck her off Dave.
De Gea Contract Situation
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The quotes I saw were "Manchester is ugly as hell". feck her off Dave.
That's not the only reason. Madrid (and Barcelona) have a very inequitable pay structure, their "superstars" earn £180-300k a week but the majority of their squad earns far less than the rest (this is somewhat obvious since Madrid/Barcelona have a lower wage bill than City/United but pay the likes of Messi, Bale, Neymar and Ronaldo far higher than the likes of Rooney/Aguero - not to mention the higher income tax).
De Gea would not be one of the lucky few Madrid player's earning their top salary, as he isn't a Galactico. It'd be more than likely that he'd be offered at best a similar contract to Casillas at around £120k a week. United don't really have the same problem, we pay (roughly) anything from Rooney at £250k, to RVP/Di Maria at £200k, to Mata at £150k, to Fellaini at £120k, to Young at £100k.
We could comfortably offer De Geas anything from £150-200k a week and it have no effect on our budget or squad harmony. Whereas at Madrid I suspect they'd have a queue of several player's if he were brought in on a similar salary. I certainly can't imagine Benzema, Ramos, Kroos & Modric etc being happy to be paid significantly less than a new goalkeeper.
I'm relatively certain if we make an offer of around £200k a week we'd be blowing Madrid out of the water.
This makes me sick. Not as if we had to 'convince' these players to play for us. Why so high?
I think Young got his loyalty bonus included in his weekly wages or something. And Fellaini was signed in the last hour of the transfer window. He had the upper hand.
At least she has functioning eyes. I'd get her a job in planning at the town hall.
Young was reportedly offered between £70-75k a week to stay at Villa (in the days of Randy Lerner splashing the cash). Obviously we felt we had to beat their offer and I believe Liverpool were also interested. Fellaini I have no idea, he earned around £50k at Everton so we should have been able to comfortably get him for £75k. I suspect that because it was a last minute deal the agent had the thought process as Everton "they are desperate, lets make them pay".
Hopefully we are being far more responsible with our squad player's going forwards. I believe Herrera, Blind and Rojo all earn around £40-60k a week for example.
For one I doubt their wages are that high and also Young and Fellaini were on big wages at Aston Villa and Everton.
Based on the fact we've got a 33 year old champions league winning goalkeeper seemingly happy to sit on our bench. Pragmatically, even if Dave has already said he wants the move we'd be very unlikely to just stop playing him, he's been fantastic and his mentality isn't in question, playing him only increases the transfer fee Madrid will inevitably pay us. The chances are Real Madrid will be looking to buy a new number 1 this summer and like it or not, most players make the move when Madrid come calling, especially Spanish players who grew up in Madrid. There's no guarantee that he'll get the chance to move to Madrid every single summer regardless of our form or whoever they sign in the meantime, taking all that into account leads me to believe that Valdes will be our number 1 next season.
Don't understand the dig at United thing, I'd be over the moon if he signed, but even those who think he'll stay seem to accept that it will be a matter of time before it comes up again. In rock, paper, scissors terms, Madrid beats United pretty much every time.
Lloris would be my pick but giving Valdes a shot would probably be more economically viable while we get the 10 players in front of him up to standard.
Isn't she a singer, rather than a model or something? Even if she loved Manchester, moving here would only hamper her career.
I think he will go in the summer, Madrid are in desperate need of a new keeper and with his contract only having a year left on it I think it will enable them to make their move, they would be crazy not to sign him and whether we make the top 4 or not it is probably too good an opportunity for De Gea to turn down.
If he does go Valdes can’t be our number 1, I don’t think he is suited to the Premier League and given his recent injury record I am not convinced he would even be capable of playing all the time and who knows how much the injury has taken out of him given his lack of playing time. We would have to bring someone else in, ideally Cech but if not him then either Begovic or a young keeper. I don’t think Lloris is realistic given he has a long contract and Spurs would demand a fortune.
If he does go Valdes can’t be our number 1, I don’t think he is suited to the Premier League and given his recent injury record I am not convinced he would even be capable of playing all the time and who knows how much the injury has taken out of him given his lack of playing time. We would have to bring someone else in, ideally Cech but if not him then either Begovic or a young keeper. I don’t think Lloris is realistic given he has a long contract and Spurs would demand a fortune.
His agent already said he expects De Gea to stay, I'm not too worried. Mendes would be the first person to come out and say something if De Gea said something even remotely close to not being happy here.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Real-Madrid-confirms-agent-Jorge-Mendes.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Real-Madrid-confirms-agent-Jorge-Mendes.html
I am still clinging on to the Atletico connection as to why I do not think this move will happen.
can you tell your club's manager and president that please? Thanks.
This has probably already been covered earlier, but if someone doesn't mind explaining it to me again...
Would DdG want to move to Real being ex-Atleti?
Would DdG want to move to Real being ex-Atleti?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Derbi_madrileño#Players_who_played_for_both_sides
Not like it's never happened
My worry is that he's obviously got a certain amount of ambition. He made a high-profile move to us at a young age when most players his age in Spain would stay put and wait their turn. So if we get to our 2nd straight year with no CL and he's not confident the club have the structure in place to right the ship immediately, I see no reason why he'd stick around. That's the bigger worry for me, not his GF or the return home.
Not like it's never happened
My worry is that he's obviously got a certain amount of ambition. He made a high-profile move to us at a young age when most players his age in Spain would stay put and wait their turn. So if we get to our 2nd straight year with no CL and he's not confident the club have the structure in place to right the ship immediately, I see no reason why he'd stick around. That's the bigger worry for me, not his GF or the return home.
This is exactly where I am at!
If we do lose him, we have to replace him with Lloris IMO.
Considering the amount of praise from the pundits within the game and the press and the fact many consider him in the top 3 in the world surely its telling that United havent tied his contract up yet.
As much as it pains me to say this I think it's a cert that he'll be gone within the next two seasons, especially if we're still struggling and showing little in the way of improvement.
I don't think it would be a problem for him. Though even if it did, I'm sure Atleti would take him back anyway.
I actually looked over that list it seems basically every player was either a foreign player(who generally would probably not care about the rivalry), a Spanish player who did not come through from either club, players who did not get much of a shot at one of the clubs and a few that ended up being loaned out to one of the clubs. De Gea a player raised in this rivalry. He would probably piss off a lot of family and friends if he suited up for Real.
If I remember correctly @jojojo said that it's around €120k net Casillas is on.
That's what the Spanish press believe. That equates (at current exchange and tax rates) to something like a £170/180k contract with us. But Madrid are very cautious about the wage structure, Casillas is one of their top paid players. Only Bale and Ronaldo earn more. Kroos and Benzema are believed to be on the same money as Casillas.
If that is the case I imagine it's because he's accrued 5-6 pay rises over the course of his career at the club. These loyalty bonuses would be something De Gea wouldn't have accrued.
I'd be very surprised if they put a new goalkeeper on a figure close to those 5. As you said Madrid seem to only pay the £150+k equivalent to a select few and I'd highly doubt De Gea would fall into that category in the eyes of the board.
I was wondering, if he wants to leave and he doesn't have much time of his contract, why are people assuming he can only go to Real? What is stopping him from going back to Atletico?
With his current situation surely he won't go for more than 20-30M this summer or for free next summer. Can't Atletico pay that and give him a decent salary?
With his current situation surely he won't go for more than 20-30M this summer or for free next summer. Can't Atletico pay that and give him a decent salary?
That's the reported situation with Young at any rate, though I don't think that many people know about this judging by the amount of people that lose their shit over the weekly figure of his wages when he's playing badly.
With Fellaini, I think I remember at the time of his transfer he had foregone his bonus from Everton in order to make the move go through (I'm sure he submitted a transfer request at any rate), so perhaps we had to make it up with him in a similar situation as with Young?
Or maybe the media have just lied about their wages - but I doubt such a thing has ever happened...
You assume his friends and family are Atletico...
Edurne Garcia has a career in Spain as a singer and tv presenter. Nevermind that she doesn't like Manchester - she has plenty of good reasons to stay in Spain.
If you're in a relationship looking at how to make it work, De Gea would be sacrificing a lot less in his career by moving to Madrid than she would moving to Manchester.
If you're in a relationship looking at how to make it work, De Gea would be sacrificing a lot less in his career by moving to Madrid than she would moving to Manchester.
Can't she be a Pop Star over here? The British like pop music and beautiful women too.
This.
Amazing that there's no "don't know" option. He's an inscrutable lad.
So what your saying is, we need to get Dave to sack off Edurne and marry an English bird.
Can somebody get on record Dave saying Edurne is rubbish at singing or anything?
Can somebody get on record Dave saying Edurne is rubbish at singing or anything?
If you don't know then don't vote, he either stays or he leaves there is no mid point, there are only 2 options.
Well he could leave and stay in same time.
What happened to the opinion that he'd never go to Real Madrid? Is it not valid anymore?
He seems a level headed guy and I'm sure he still loves and appreciates the club that completely stuck by him throughout his development. If LVG can get his act together and prove the club is moving in the right direction, I'm sure there's hope yet.
He seems a level headed guy and I'm sure he still loves and appreciates the club that completely stuck by him throughout his development. If LVG can get his act together and prove the club is moving in the right direction, I'm sure there's hope yet.
I would literally be heartbroken if he left, an unbelievable talent, player and seems like a top bloke too, one of the most likeable guys in the squad due to the passion he shows and how level headed he seems to be. Would be more gutted than when we lost Ronaldo especially because there isn't many options as good as De Gea. Other than Neuer and Courtois every other keeper is a level below IMO.
I doubt Atletico can pay anywhere near what Real pays. It's just like Dortmund. If the top tier clubs want their players or players they want the only argument they have in their favor is more playing for the younger players who aren't established yet but financial it's impossible for them to compete.
He should find a new gf.
Like Schrodinger's cat?
They can get him for free on a year.
They won't be able to give him near as a big wage as us or Real though, and they spent quite a lot of money in a keeper last summer.
They also won't be one of the most competitive clubs in Europe on the next decade. I am pretty sure that both us and Real will win (significantly) more trophies than them during De Gea's career.
I am good at impersonating human voices.
He should pump Rhodri Giggs' missus instead. Everyone else is.
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