De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

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  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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It was always obvious that Madrid would come sniffing around DeGea if he continued to improve. It's one of those transfer stories that you could see coming before there was any mention of it. Unfortunately most players see Madrid as some kind of ultimate destination, add in the fact that he would be back in his home country and it seems inevitable.
Keepers with that kind of ability are very rare so wouldn't be easy to find a satisfactory replacement.
 
No chance we will sell if he signs a new contract, no matter how much money we are offered.
 
ottosec said:
No chance we will sell if he signs a new contract, no matter how much money we are offered.
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Redo91 said:
Link?

How is that not good news?

Edit: Never mind I found it here:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-leave-manchester-united-says-guillem-balague

Still curious how this isn't good news. :p
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Because ultimately it will mean hes going anyway. Its like the Ronaldo story all over again. Signs a new deal, we ward them off for a season, they get their man a season later. We get big bucks but in my mind he's going summer 2016.

If ballague had said de Gea wants to a sign a new deal and that's it i would have been happy. But for him to confirm Madrid really want him then its game over because they always get their man and to make it worse de Gea is spanish and will clearly be spains number one very soon. Its obvious.
 
iamfalcao said:
Because ultimately it will mean hes going anyway. Its like the Ronaldo story all over again. Signs a new deal, we ward them off for a season, they get their man a season later. We get big bucks but in my mind he's going summer 2016.

If ballague had said de Gea wants to a sign a new deal and that's it i would have been happy. But for him to confirm Madrid really want him then its game over because they always get their man and to make it worse de Gea is spanish and will clearly be spains number one very soon. Its obvious.
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Did you miss the bit where he said that Madrid will have to convince us to sell? That's key. The ball will be back in our court if he signs the new deal.

Besides Madrid don't always get their man. See Neymar and Ribery as examples of this. They also tried to sign Keane when he left us. This notion that if Madrid want someone they get them is just a myth. Ballague never said that De Gea wants to go to Madrid and that's the most important thing.
 
Save me the hassle lads, why are people suddenly being so gloomy and are being so assured De Gea is leaving?
 
iamfalcao said:
Because ultimately it will mean hes going anyway. Its like the Ronaldo story all over again. Signs a new deal, we ward them off for a season, they get their man a season later. We get big bucks but in my mind he's going summer 2016.

If ballague had said de Gea wants to a sign a new deal and that's it i would have been happy. But for him to confirm Madrid really want him then its game over because they always get their man and to make it worse de Gea is spanish and will clearly be spains number one very soon. Its obvious.
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Ah... the good old "Madrid always gets their man" shit. And just because we lost a single player that we didn't want to lose to them after him being unhappy for 2 years and telling the papers how much he wants to leave every week. And for which we got a world record. Not to mention that his performance levels were clearly affected in his last year.

If you take away Ronaldo which top player from the top English clubs did Madrid and Barcelona get? I am talking here about the clubs who constantly fight for the title, not the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool. How many players did United, City and Chelsea lost to them?

Sometimes when I read the Caf it feels like some here support the likes of West Brom, Crystal Palace or QPR, not Manchester United.
 
ottosec said:
Ah... the good old "Madrid always gets their man" shit. And just because we lost a single player that we didn't want to lose to them after him being unhappy for 2 years and telling the papers how much he wants to leave every week. And for which we got a world record. Not to mention that his performance levels were clearly affected in his last year.

If you take away Ronaldo which top player from the top English clubs did Madrid and Barcelona get? I am talking here about the clubs who constantly fight for the title, not the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool. How many players did United, City and Chelsea lost to them?

Sometimes when I read the Caf it feels like some here support the likes of West Brom, Crystal Palace or QPR, not Manchester United.
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Well for starters your limiting the amount of players i could list by saying i can only choose 3 teams to pick players from. Its not just losing players to them its them "always getting their man" like i said. They could pick any non-english player any the player would go there easily. Its also more of a case i would say that out of the top 3 cluba who is actually good enough for them. Aguero, Hazard.. Thats it probably. We all get the players they don't want really.

Bale - if it wasnt for madrid im pretty sure he would have been ours and we'd be far better off for it.

Suarez - premierships best player last season taken to barcelona

Modric - im sure we were always interested in him, would take him in a heart beat now.

Fabregas - barca took him just because they could almost.

Benzema - we wanted him.
Varane - we wanted him.

If they want de Gea, they'll get him. It will probably take £50mill but theyll pay it.
 
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Well for starters your limiting the amount of players i could list by saying i can only choose 3 teams to pick players from. Its not just losing players to them its them "always getting their man" like i said. They could pick any non-english player any the player would go there easily. Its also more of a case i would say that out of the top 3 cluba who is actually good enough for them. Aguero, Hazard.. Thats it probably. We all get the players they don't want really.

Bale - if it wasnt for madrid im pretty sure he would have been ours and we'd be far better off for it.

Suarez - premierships best player last season taken to barcelona

Modric - im sure we were always interested in him, would take him in a heart beat now.

Fabregas - barca took him just because they could almost.

Benzema - we wanted him.
Varane - we wanted him.

If they want de Gea, they'll get him. It will probably take £50mill but theyll pay it.
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Let's examine that: Bale - Think it was said Levy refused to do business with us, and the club with Levy due to previous issues.

Suarez - Liverpool aren't a top club anymore

Modrid - Why would Spurs sell to a PL team when they can sell abraod.

Fabregas - he was their youth player and grew up there. Of course they could take him

Benzema - dunno

Varane - Only personal intervention from a French legend took him to Madrid.

A lott of cases, it took a lot of circumstances for them to end up at Madrid/Barca.
 
iamfalcao said:
Well for starters your limiting the amount of players i could list by saying i can only choose 3 teams to pick players from. Its not just losing players to them its them "always getting their man" like i said. They could pick any non-english player any the player would go there easily. Its also more of a case i would say that out of the top 3 cluba who is actually good enough for them. Aguero, Hazard.. Thats it probably. We all get the players they don't want really.

Bale - if it wasnt for madrid im pretty sure he would have been ours and we'd be far better off for it.

Suarez - premierships best player last season taken to barcelona

Modric - im sure we were always interested in him, would take him in a heart beat now.

Fabregas - barca took him just because they could almost.

Benzema - we wanted him.
Varane - we wanted him.

If they want de Gea, they'll get him. It will probably take £50mill but theyll pay it.
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The problem is unless your David De Gea (which according to your username you aren't) then I have no idea whatsoever how you can say they will get him.

People say this all the time. "If club x want player y they will get him", yet often it doesn't prove to be the case. You may have correctly listed players who Real/Barca wanted and they signed but in my previous post I named three players who Real wanted and they didn't get so that just disproves your theory straight away. Real haven't signed every player they have ever wanted to sign so you can't say matter-of-factly that they will get De Gea just because they want him. This isn't a game of Fifa/Football Manager. it ain't that simple.
 
Redo91 said:
Did you miss the bit where he said that Madrid will have to convince us to sell? That's key. The ball will be back in our court if he signs the new deal.

Besides Madrid don't always get their man. See Neymar and Ribery as examples of this. They also tried to sign Keane when he left us. This notion that if Madrid want someone they get them is just a myth. Ballague never said that De Gea wants to go to Madrid and that's the most important thing.
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You could add Vieira, Henry (I think) and even Wenger to that list.

However Real Madrid get their man if they're keen enough - I guess the selling club just needs to make it as difficult as possible and hope they end up looking elsewhere.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Save me the hassle lads, why are people suddenly being so gloomy and are being so assured De Gea is leaving?
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Because De Gea will sign a contract perhaps with a release clause (the club has never done that before) and be forced to sell. ...Or he will sign a regular contract and we will sell no matter what when Madrid wants him. Basically, we'll roll over whenever Madrid comes calling.
 
Red Katie said:
Because De Gea will sign a contract perhaps with a release clause (the club has never done that before) and be forced to sell. ...Or he will sign a regular contract and we will sell no matter what when Madrid wants him. Basically, we'll roll over whenever Madrid comes calling.
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This is just pessimism right? There's no solid news of this.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
You could add Vieira, Henry (I think) and even Wenger to that list.

However Real Madrid get their man if they're keen enough - I guess the selling club just needs to make it as difficult as possible and hope they end up looking elsewhere.
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I'm pretty sure they were very keen on Neymar and Wenger as you say. The notion that if they want a player they get them is just wrong. Plain and simple.
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
This is just pessimism right? There's no solid news of this.
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This was a summary of the last few pages and not my opinion. The Mirror reported he'll sign but with a release clause but can't see us doing that, and now Balague is saying he'll sign and Madrid want him but will have a fight convincing us to sell.
 
Redo91 said:
I'm pretty sure they were very keen on Neymar and Wenger as you say. The notion that if they want a player they get them is just wrong. Plain and simple.
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Are we assuming that the player/person in question wants to move there?

Because if they do then it's most likely game over. I think only Vieira, who apparently wanted to go there (although he also claimed otherwise), didn't end up getting his move despite Real wanting him season after season.
 
cesc's_mullet said:
Are we assuming that the player/person in question wants to move there?

Because if they do then it's most likely game over. I think only Vieira, who apparently wanted to go there (although he also claimed otherwise), didn't end up getting his move despite Real wanting him season after season.
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No. That's my point. People think all it takes is for Real to decide that they want a player and that's that.

And as you say with Viera even if a player wants to go there it doesn't mean it will happen (although it would be likely).
 
iamfalcao said:
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If they want de Gea, they'll get him. It will probably take £50mill but theyll pay it.
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I don't know why I bother, but I'll explain again. I piked City, Chelsea and us because those are the teams that usually fight for the title. Top players want trophies, if they are at a team that can't win any, obviously they want to leave some where they can.

To prove your point you go on and post some players they bought from Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham. Arsenal who are known to sell their best players even to rivals and 2 clubs that cannot compare to the best clubs and are seen by players mostly as a stepping stone to bigger clubs and that cannot really reject and offer for their players if it's big enough.

The Spanish clubs always got big players because they were basically the only ones who were willing to pay crazy money for the players. Take Bale for example, you say he is playing for Madrid because of their pulling power and because they "always get their man" or whatever other bullshit, but the truth is that he is there because they were the only ones willing to pay that kind of money for him. What was your first impression when you saw the transfer? I'll tell you, you laughed and you thought they were idiots, like we all did.

But the thing is that there are clubs that don't care about money and we are one of them. You are having a laugh if you think we are going to accept any offer for DDG when he is under contract and he isn't unhappy here.
 
Are release clauses over-hyped? I mean, Arsenal offered Liverpool Suarez' proposed release clause, but he stayed for another season didn't he?
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
Are release clauses over-hyped? I mean, Arsenal offered Liverpool Suarez' proposed release clause, but he stayed for another season didn't he?
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I think that was a really vague release clause. If Liverpool received an offer over £40,000,000 they had to accept so Arsenal offered £40,000,001. Liverpool claimed the clause wasn't legally binding so rejected the offer. It wasn't very clear cut in any case.
 
The longer this drags on, how do you think the fans will react?

Chants that are aimed towards the board - like in the Tevez situation)?

or, towards the player - like in the Ferdinand situation?
 
ottosec said:
I don't know why I bother, but I'll explain again. I piked City, Chelsea and us because those are the teams that usually fight for the title. Top players want trophies, if they are at a team that can't win any, obviously they want to leave some where they can.

To prove your point you go on and post some players they bought from Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham. Arsenal who are known to sell their best players even to rivals and 2 clubs that cannot compare to the best clubs and are seen by players mostly as a stepping stone to bigger clubs and that cannot really reject and offer for their players if it's big enough.

The Spanish clubs always got big players because they were basically the only ones who were willing to pay crazy money for the players. Take Bale for example, you say he is playing for Madrid because of their pulling power and because they "always get their man" or whatever other bullshit, but the truth is that he is there because they were the only ones willing to pay that kind of money for him. What was your first impression when you saw the transfer? I'll tell you, you laughed and you thought they were idiots, like we all did.

But the thing is that there are clubs that don't care about money and we are one of them. You are having a laugh if you think we are going to accept any offer for DDG when he is under contract and he isn't unhappy here.
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And i picked the teams i did because it helped prove my point that any player madrid want they get (bar one or two as an exception, they refused to match barcas ridiculus offer for neymar which they got in trouble for).

Bale, we definitley matched their offer but he chose madrid ahead of us definitley. My first impression?? Haha i was jealous because they were getting an incredible player? When SSN reported an english club had made a late offer i knew it was us and was desperately hoping we could pull it off actually.

Whether we want to sell him or not, you cant keep an unhappy player. If we promise de Gea a move in the future (like we did Ronaldo) aslong as he signs a new contract so we protect our investment in him then he will sign the deal. Thats what i expect will happen.

Lastly ill say again, Madrid very rarely rate players in our top league otherwise they would have taken them. Aguero is a curious case because i would have expected them to make a move but maybe they preffered other targets like Bale and Rodriguez. Apart from aguero i don't think any player in the top 4 would get in their team. Thats my opinion.
 
Am I the only one that finds myself watching each game and whenever we make a mistake just thinking De Gea is just standing there thinking "Real Madrid wouldn't make that mistake"

Lol...
 
Sorry, are these Mendez quotes new? My bad if not..

Mendes believes goalkeeper David De Gea, another of his clients, is not going anywhere either.

The 24-year-old Spaniard, who joined United for a £17.8m fee in 2011, has been linked with a big-money move to Real Madrid.

"He has one year left on his contract and I think that he will stay in Manchester," said the 49-year-old Mendes, who is reported to have brokered more than £1bn worth of transfers.

"The player will decide, but he's happy there, at the moment."
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He makes some other comments about United too for anyone interested.
 
"The player will decide, but he's happy there, at the moment."

What the BBC failed to report was the huge pause between 'there' and 'at'.. and the massive evil joker laugh at the end.
 
David de Gea set to stay at Manchester United despite transfer interest from Real Madrid, says agent Jorge Mendes


  • Super agent Jorge Mendes thinks David de Gea will stay at Old Trafford
  • Real Madrid have been linked with a move for the Manchester United ace

David de Gea is set to stay at Manchester United, according to his agent.

The Spaniard, whose contract expires at the end of next season, has been strongly linked with a move to Real Madrid.

But De Gea's representative, Jorge Mendes, believes the talented goalkeeper will remain at Old Trafford.

'He has one year left on his contract and I think that he will stay in Manchester,' Mendes told the BBC. 'The player will decide, but he's happy there, at the moment.'

Mendes' comments will come as a relief to United fans who were growing increasingly concerned that the 24-year-old, signed from Atletico Madrid for £17.8m in 2011, would be on his way.

Last week manager Louis van Gaal, when asked about the keeper's future, admitted 'everything is possible'. He added: 'We would like to keep him.'

If Mendes' comments are anything to go by it looks like they will be doing just that.

Lisbon-born Mendes has risen from DJ bar owner in Porto, where he became friends with numerous professional footballers, to one of the most powerful agents in the modern game.

Mendes represents De Gea, as well as Jose Mourinho, Luiz Felipe Scolari, Radamel Falcao and James Rodriguez and also negotiated Angel di Maria’s £59.7m move to Manchester United.

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Still sticking to my original prediction, he will sign one more contract however that will be his last.

In 1-3 years Madrid will come in for him again and that will be that.
 
In a couple of years things may have changed and we're competing for all major honours again. Going by reports he's really happy in Manchester and if we win things I think he'll stay a good chunk of his career.
 
With Madrid being tonked today it got me thinking, from a United POV, how do we want Madrid to get on this season?

On the one hand, if they do really well and say win the League and CL, they will look so attractive for De Gea but maybe they wont feel the need to buy him. But on the other hand, if they have a bad year and win nothing then suddenly they might not be so attractive for De Gea, but the club will be more likely to want to buy him as their statement signing. I'm torn.
 
Sam said:
With Madrid being tonked today it got me thinking, from a United POV, how do we want Madrid to get on this season?

On the one hand, if they do really well and say win the League and CL, they will look so attractive for De Gea but maybe they wont feel the need to buy him. But on the other hand, if they have a bad year and win nothing then suddenly they might not be so attractive for De Gea, but the club will be more likely to want to buy him as their statement signing. I'm torn.
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Let's hope Iker has a blinding season, that's probably the best bet I'd guess?
 
Can't see it making much of a difference. What we want is Casillas to have a perfect season so he's undroppable. With his howler today that isn't looking like a great shout.
 
maybe Navas can step up and have a great season? Cant see Casillas getting dropped for some reason.
 
Basically the only club that might beat Madrid to a player is Barca.

People saying they don't always get their man are delusional. Maybe they don't every time but hey do 99% of the time and especially when they really want them.

I think De Gea is worth a world record fee personally. I hope we can keep him for ten plus years.
 
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