Settling for the less worse is different from happy.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Settling for the less worse is different from happy.
Or this.
Like I say, that's short term thinking.
I couldn't really blame him if that what the case. In fact it could help focus some minds.
There is no short term in it. You throw words just for the sake of it.
Keeping De Gea for 12 months, that's short-termism.
The best option is to sign him long term, the worst letting him go on a free and the middle ground would be to let him go for a check.
To me he is the best goalkeeper in the world and can easily play for another 15 years or so. I wouldn´t sell for under 50 million Euros. I don´t understand why players up the field (consider what we have paid for the likes of ADM, Mata and maybe Falcao for example) should be valued more. De Gea has saved our team many times and will save us many, many points in the future. If I were Ed Woodward I would give him whatever the feck he wants to sign a longterm-contract (preferably 10-year long). If that don´t do it and De Gea really wants to leave no matter what then sell. I don´t want any player here that desperately wants out but selling for 20 million euros would not be a good deal imo considering what we have paid for players not nearly as good as DDG in recent years
A check for much more than 20 million.
Only if he signs a new contract.
To be clear i understand that you want more, i want more.
But in reality the club would find value in 20m check. Like Munich found value in a 20m check.
on the poll I voted that I think he will be gone , I really hope I am proved wrong and I do trust the powers do to their utmost to keep him.
Respect to Bayern, but Utd isn't Bayern.
What's the phrase 'Act confident and you will be'? The last thing we should do is start devaluing our image in the transfer market at the same time as our football and trophy haul is going through a sticky patch. The club will not live or die over getting 20 million from Madrid, is my point.
But we will if we start acting like a small club.
Get Courtois on the job.
The De Gea Index has really taken a tumble this week.
You're not actually going to claim we have higher standards than Bayern or anything, right?
That's the base of his argument, we are big and powerful.
Nope didn't say that. And they'd play us off the park right now. But in terms of size of club then yes we are not Bayern.
Don't put words in my mouth please.
They might not be the size of us, but don't underestimate how attractive they are to players looking for new clubs.
That's not my argument. If you read back you'll see I reference that.
Fair enough.
Sorry, that's how i understood it, we are too big to be a feeder club (not Southampton), we would be starting acting like a small club and Utd isn't Bayern.
I'm maybe wrong but it was an honest interpretation.
Can I bothered? Not really.
Not liking the s*it-stirring his agent is doing. Don't footballers have a voice or something? If he wants to stay then he needs to tell Mendes to get the contract done. Otherwise if he wants to go Woody better get Madrid to cough up £50 million all paid up-front or they can do one
But seriously, why would De Gea go to Madrid to deal with all the politics in their dressing room plus the crazy fans that get on your back the moment you make a mistake??? Doesn't sound like a good deal to me…
In any case, the club protected him when he first started and got all kinds of crap from the press. So imho he owes us one.
But seriously, why would De Gea go to Madrid to deal with all the politics in their dressing room plus the crazy fans that get on your back the moment you make a mistake??? Doesn't sound like a good deal to me…
In any case, the club protected him when he first started and got all kinds of crap from the press. So imho he owes us one.
I don't care if we have to give him £200,000 a week pay the man and make him sign a contract. At least then we will be in a position to negotiate with Madrid if he wants to leave. Right now with time running down on his contract, there isn't much leeway for negotiation. They'll probably offer £20-25m in the summer and we might have to take it if he decides he wants to move.
Not liking the s*it-stirring his agent is doing. Don't footballers have a voice or something? If he wants to stay then he needs to tell Mendes to get the contract done. Otherwise if he wants to go Woody better get Madrid to cough up £50 million all paid up-front or they can do one
But seriously, why would De Gea go to Madrid to deal with all the politics in their dressing room plus the crazy fans that get on your back the moment you make a mistake??? Doesn't sound like a good deal to me…
In any case, the club protected him when he first started and got all kinds of crap from the press. So imho he owes us one.
I just think it's the usual shite stirring that agents do when they are negotiating a contract...to get more money. I'd be surprised if he left now. He's still developing to be honest, still learning and has many many years ahead of him. Even Ronaldo stayed for what was it, 5/6 years..learning his craft. He'd be crazy to go now, regardless of the money chucked at him. I don't expect him to stay for his career...but certainly another few seasons. Real Madrid do get who they want eventually, no matter who the other club is...its the way of football. Also the weather is soooooooooo much better!
Hate agents….
Who can replace him if he goes, that's the worry, not so much the money we receive for him.
If it's a choice of getting £20m for him in the summer, or letting him leave on a free next year, I'd choose the latter.
Who are the candidates?
Valdes, obviously. No idea if he can still play.
Tim Krul or Cillesen because of the Dutch link? Tim Krul wasn't van Gaal's first choice at the WC and Cillesen isn't great.
Lloris - Spurs wouldn't sell to us.
A left-field choice like Brad Guzan?
If it's a choice of getting £20m for him in the summer, or letting him leave on a free next year, I'd choose the latter.
Who are the candidates?
Valdes, obviously. No idea if he can still play.
Tim Krul or Cillesen because of the Dutch link? Tim Krul wasn't van Gaal's first choice at the WC and Cillesen isn't great.
Lloris - Spurs wouldn't sell to us.
A left-field choice like Brad Guzan?
probably valdes, he does fit in with van gaals philosophy more and is half decent i guess.
It's fair though. Yes, you get agents who want to move their players as much as possible. However, Mendes has the right to demand as much as he wants from us given that De Gea has been our best player for the last 18 months.
DDG was in tears when he left Atletico. I really can't see him leaving for their archrival, but then again, this is football.
Look at the best shot stoppers in Europe. Neuer, Navas, Perin, Lloris, De Gea. They're nearly all in their 20s. The organisers who don't save as much like Casillas, Buffon, Lopez, De Sanctis are in their 30s.
Everyone says goalkeepers don't peak until their 30s, but if you're talk pure reaction save terms, that's not true.
He has to become a leader to that defence like Van Der Sar was to be talked about as a 15 year type player. In 6 or 7 years time he will likely save less shots than he does now. He'll gain other things, but it's no different from outfield players.
Did you just class Casillas as not a shot stopper? Not that it detracts from your point as he has heavily declined with age but he was basically the definition of a shot stopper goalie.
Indeed. The reason he's struggling over the past couple of years is that he's losing those red hot reactions and agility and he doesn't have the command or the organisational game to make up for it.
Was half decent. Now, none of us have any idea.
If de Gea is going to leave this summer then we should throw everything at Chelsea and get Petr Cech. Even if it means overpaying. He's the only one available who wouldn't make us vulnerable as it was between Schmeichel-van der Sar era.
Surely De Gea is considering leaving, why would he want to be scraping with the likes of Cambridge in a Cup replay when he can be winning honours with Ronaldo and Bale, as well as being much closer to his home, family and girlfriend? He might be persuaded to sign a new contract but his agent will probably insert a Real Madrid clause so as to compensate us a fair bit. There are certainly more reasons for him to go than stay.
I'd seriously consider leaving if I was in his position.
It would be silly for him not to leave, honestly.
He's one of the top 3 goalkeepers in the world and, it does pain me to say it, but we aren't even in the top 10 of the world.
He's one of the top 3 goalkeepers in the world and, it does pain me to say it, but we aren't even in the top 10 of the world.
De Gea reveals money will not decide Man Utd future as Real targets Spaniard
London, Jan 25 (ANI): Spanish goalkeeper David de Gea has reportedly informed Manchester United that money would not motivate his decision over his future, as Real Madrid targets the star stopper, who has 18 months remaining on his contract at Old Trafford.
It had been reportedly revealed earlier that Real is planning a bid to take the United keeper back to Spain in a deal that would see Gareth Bale move to Old Trafford.
However, The Mirror has now reported that that United's plan to offer De Gea a bank-busting basic wage in excess of 200,000 pounds-a-week won't tempt the Spaniard into committing himself to a new long-term contract.
United's offer is reportedly far more than what Real is willing to pay, but De Gea has 18 months left on his current deal and has told friends that his heart would decide where his future lies.
Real has taken massive encouragement from this and they feel that they can prise De Gea away from United. Moreover, with time ticking down on the Spaniard's contract Real know that United's 50 million pounds valuation is unrealistic for a player who would be available for free in the summer of 2016.
As De Gea is on the verge of replacing Iker Casillas as Spain's number one, the European champions reportedly view it as a matter of national pride that they sign him.
De Gea is happy at Old Trafford but the lure of Real could prove too much, especially if United fail to qualify for the Champions League, the report added. (ANI)
London, Jan 25 (ANI): Spanish goalkeeper David de Gea has reportedly informed Manchester United that money would not motivate his decision over his future, as Real Madrid targets the star stopper, who has 18 months remaining on his contract at Old Trafford.
It had been reportedly revealed earlier that Real is planning a bid to take the United keeper back to Spain in a deal that would see Gareth Bale move to Old Trafford.
However, The Mirror has now reported that that United's plan to offer De Gea a bank-busting basic wage in excess of 200,000 pounds-a-week won't tempt the Spaniard into committing himself to a new long-term contract.
United's offer is reportedly far more than what Real is willing to pay, but De Gea has 18 months left on his current deal and has told friends that his heart would decide where his future lies.
Real has taken massive encouragement from this and they feel that they can prise De Gea away from United. Moreover, with time ticking down on the Spaniard's contract Real know that United's 50 million pounds valuation is unrealistic for a player who would be available for free in the summer of 2016.
As De Gea is on the verge of replacing Iker Casillas as Spain's number one, the European champions reportedly view it as a matter of national pride that they sign him.
De Gea is happy at Old Trafford but the lure of Real could prove too much, especially if United fail to qualify for the Champions League, the report added. (ANI)
I think he will go, I think we know that already - that's why we signed Valdes and that's why there's no new contract.
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