De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season


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I actually don't blame DDG, but rather the club (if anyone is to blame, really).

Ppl ask why this doesn't happen to Chelsea, well among other things they do have a ruthless owner/board and manager.

Take Courtois for example:
Last year this time he was having the season of his life with Atletico. His contract with Chelsea was due to expire in 2016 (just like DDG's). Courtois didn't have any bond with Chelsea and was feeling very happy at Atletico and settled in Madrid. There were a lot of rumours that he prefers to permanently sign with Atletico. Chelsea of course weren't having any of that. Mourinho told him that if he doesn't extend with Chelsea they will call him back and bench him for 2 years. Some weeks later he extended.

Now we could have done the same with DDG last year, we could even do it this year. Obviously if he is not happy at all to stay then we could still this way make him to extend in order to at least get us a higer fee when we sell him in 1-2 years.

So either we are happy that United still behaves in a "nice" way and treats their players "well" or we should be ruthless and thus get our way most of the time.

What we can't do is wanting to remain nice in everyone's eyes but still complain why Chelsea don't lose their players.
 
I actually don't blame DDG, but rather the club (if anyone is to blame, really).

Ppl ask why this doesn't happen to Chelsea, well among other things they do have a ruthless owner/board and manager.

Take Courtois for example:
Last year this time he was having the season of his life with Atletico. His contract with Chelsea was due to expire in 2016 (just like DDG's). Courtois didn't have any bond with Chelsea and was feeling very happy at Atletico and settled in Madrid. There were a lot of rumours that he prefers to permanently sign with Atletico. Chelsea of course weren't having any of that. Mourinho told him that if he doesn't extend with Chelsea they will call him back and bench him for 2 years. Some weeks later he extended.

Now we could have done the same with DDG last year, we could even do it this year. Obviously if he is not happy at all to stay then we could still this way make him to extend in order to at least get us a higer fee when we sell him in 1-2 years.

So either we are happy that United still behaves in a "nice" way and treats their players "well" or we should be ruthless and thus get our way most of the time.

What we can't do is wanting to remain nice in everyone's eyes but still complain why Chelsea don't lose their players.
How we could make him to extend his contract if he doesnt want to. By threatening him?

Offer is on the table but he's refusing to take it.

Situation with Curtois and Chelsea is a bit different too.
 
For me it is a smack in the face to the club, the fact that he does not sign a new contract, to put the club in a stronger negotiating position.

With Ronaldo he was honest and open, but he respected the club and we got a world record fee for him. Most fans are still fond of Ronaldo.

With De Gea the situation is virtually the opposite, and I do feel quite bitter about it and towards him as a player.
 
How we could make him to extend his contract if he doesnt want to. By threatening him?

Offer is on the table but he's refusing to take it.

Situation with Curtois and Chelsea is a bit different too.
Not really. Chelsea did threaten him after all and it was all over the Spanish papers. Either we remain diplomatic or turn ruthless. Both have their advantage and disadvantage. In the end the club needs to decide how to deal with these situations in future.
 
Not really. Chelsea did threaten him after all and it was all over the Spanish papers. Either we remain diplomatic or turn ruthless. Both have their advantage and disadvantage. In the end the club needs to decide how to deal with these situations in future.
So you're saying club should have threaten him so he would sign the extension?
 
Back in the real world, players move clubs.

If every club adopted this ridiculous notion there would never be another transfer fee because everyone would move on a free.

Your position on all this is too romantic and idealistic, the club operates more pragmatically, thank feck.

We can be pragmatic with Atletico Madrid or Getafe or someone.

Nobody would expect us to be pragmatic with a player wanting to go to Liverpool or City.
I'm only arguing that we should be equally unaccommodating to our big European rivals.
 
He didnt do anything bad if he wants to leave?! So he didnt do anything bad,hell Madrid didnt do anything bad,let me guess somehow its our fault and we did something bad...

Well, he is allowed to choose to leave when is contract end.
 
I actually don't blame DDG, but rather the club (if anyone is to blame, really).

Ppl ask why this doesn't happen to Chelsea, well among other things they do have a ruthless owner/board and manager.

Take Courtois for example:
Last year this time he was having the season of his life with Atletico. His contract with Chelsea was due to expire in 2016 (just like DDG's). Courtois didn't have any bond with Chelsea and was feeling very happy at Atletico and settled in Madrid. There were a lot of rumours that he prefers to permanently sign with Atletico. Chelsea of course weren't having any of that. Mourinho told him that if he doesn't extend with Chelsea they will call him back and bench him for 2 years. Some weeks later he extended.

Now we could have done the same with DDG last year, we could even do it this year. Obviously if he is not happy at all to stay then we could still this way make him to extend in order to at least get us a higer fee when we sell him in 1-2 years.

So either we are happy that United still behaves in a "nice" way and treats their players "well" or we should be ruthless and thus get our way most of the time.

What we can't do is wanting to remain nice in everyone's eyes but still complain why Chelsea don't lose their players.

It's rare for a big club to ever let a valuable young player run down their deal to a year.

Still I'm happy we kept him for this season and didn't sell him last summer. It was the right decision. I doubt if any other keeper could have saved us so much this season.

What we lose in his transfer fee we will more than make up for in CL revenue.
 
So you're saying club should have threaten him so he would sign the extension?
If they want to avoid losing their players on the cheap then yes. If they however think that's not the right behaviour and they'd rather lose players on the cheap instead then no.
All I am saying is that it does partly explain why Chelsea don't lose their players they want to keep and also why they get huge fees for those they decide to sell.
 
If they want to avoid losing their players on the cheap then yes. If they however think that's not the right behaviour and they'd rather lose players on the cheap instead then no.
All I am saying is that it does partly explain why Chelsea don't lose their players they want to keep and also why they get huge fees for those they decide to sell.
This is the 2nd time in 6 years we're loosing a player we want to keep so its not that serious. As for Chelsea we'll see how they'll react when and if Madrid comes for Hazard for instance.
 
We need to change our policy, we should never let contracts run to a year as them the power is in the players hands!

With De Gea, we should tell him your staying till the end of your contract and if he starts sulking then bench him and play Valdes!!
 
If you say so.

You're blaming the club for De Gea not signing a new deal without having the slightest knowledge of what's gone on behind the scenes? How do you know we did not try to get him to sign a new deal last summer?

Besides, the comparison is daft. Courtois wanted first team football as an incentive for signing a new contract and staying at Chelsea. That's a demand which is very easy to give in to.

But yes, let's blame for the club for the player refusing to sign a new contract.:wenger:
 
This is the 2nd time in 6 years we're loosing a player we want to keep so its not that serious. As for Chelsea we'll see how they'll react when and if Madrid comes for Hazard for instance.
They'll react the same way they did with Courtois: Make him sign so they hold all the cards and then they can sell on their terms and if they are not met then just keep him. However they already made him extend his contract, so they are safe for the next 2-3 years at least.
 
We need to change our policy, we should never let contracts run to a year as them the power is in the players hands!

With De Gea, we should tell him your staying till the end of your contract and if he starts sulking then bench him and play Valdes!!
As @akash02 said we didnt exactly let it run to a year, nobody knows how long is offer on a table. Maybe we offered him a new contract in the winter, maybe last summer. I bet club has done everything in their power for him to sign.
 
We need to change our policy, we should never let contracts run to a year as them the power is in the players hands!

With De Gea, we should tell him your staying till the end of your contract and if he starts sulking then bench him and play Valdes!!

The club can do nothing about it, the players will sign a new contract, if and when it pleases them.
 
They'll react the same way they did with Courtois: Make him sign so they hold all the cards and then they can sell on their terms and if they are not met then just keep him. However they already made him extend his contract, so they are safe for the next 2-3 years at least.
Well Hazard signed a extension, DDG doesnt want to.
 
You're blaming the club for De Gea not signing a new deal without having the slightest knowledge of what's gone on behind the scenes? How do you know we did not try to get him to sign a new deal last summer?

Besides, the comparison is daft. Courtois wanted first team football as an incentive for signing a new contract and staying at Chelsea. That's a demand which is very easy to give in to.

But yes, let's blame for the club for the player refusing to sign a new contract.:wenger:
No Courtois wanted to stay in Madrid with Atletico, just like DDG wants to go back to Madrid.
Even until the very last minute last season Courtois kept saying he could either stay at Atletico or go to Chelsea.
 
I disagree.

There are always been, and always will be plenty of players who see United as standing right at the top table of European football.
Players who have brought this club huge success.

Just because Spanish footballers are the dish of the day at the moment, doesn't mean they always will be and doesn't mean we should dilute our image to bend to them. Doing that just makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy and helps them establish themselves above us.
I find some of your posts totally surrealistic although I understand it as keeping the pride of the club.You make some rules for transfers affecting United but what about players that United wants without the consent of their clubs?.Otamendi for example,Valencia has said several times that they dont want to sell but United is still insisting,should the player stay until the end of the contract? .Being spaniard is an interesting point for Madrid but they will try to sign the best players in the world,doesn't matter the nationality.
 
Well Hazard signed a extension, DDG doesnt want to.
Courtois didn't want it either but Chelsea still made him sign one.
Again if United are fine with investing in players and giving them huge wages, but in the end can't keep the players because they "don't want to" then so be it. But then don't ask yourself why Chelsea are ahead of us in these things.
 
No Courtois wanted to stay in Madrid with Atletico, just like DDG wants to go back to Madrid.
Even until the very last minute last season Courtois kept saying he could either stay at Atletico or go to Chelsea.

No Courtois wanted to be a starter and feared that Cech could be Mourinho's first choice, he did said that he would be happy to stay in Madrid but it was only in the case that Chelsea didn't intended to play him.
 
No Courtois wanted to stay in Madrid with Atletico, just like DDG wants to go back to Madrid.
Even until the very last minute last season Courtois kept saying he could either stay at Atletico or go to Chelsea.

I just googled it.

Pretty much everything says Courtois wanted assurances of first team football before he signed any sort of new deal. There's also reports of interest from Barca which is what apparently prompted the comments from Mourinho not him staying at Atletico.

Courtois is also not Spanish or a Madridists like De Gea.

A terrible example used solely to have a dig at the club you support.
 
Yeah being a club that forces players to finish their contracts sounds good to me. Everybody wanting 1 year deal doesn't sound that bad.

Another thing that I find strange is why people think he should extend his contract so that we could get better fee. That is all good as long as other clubs don't start doing the same.
 
Courtois didn't want it either but Chelsea still made him sign one.
Again if United are fine with investing in players and giving them huge wages, but in the end can't keep the players because they "don't want to" then so be it. But then don't ask yourself why Chelsea are ahead of us in these things.
Comparing our situation with DDG and Chelsea and Curtois is mixing apples and oranges. 2 different situations.
He said he might say in Madrid or get back to Chelsea as you said. He never said - I dont want to go back to Chelsea definitely.
 
We can be pragmatic with Atletico Madrid or Getafe or someone.

Nobody would expect us to be pragmatic with a player wanting to go to Liverpool or City.
I'm only arguing that we should be equally unaccommodating to our big European rivals.

Totally agree, good post. Don't expect it to get read without bias though ;)

For some people, the status quo is as far as they can see :wenger:
 
No Courtois wanted to be a starter and feared that Cech could be Mourinho's first choice, he did said that he would be happy to stay in Madrid but it was only in the case that Chelsea didn't intended to play him.
Well then why did Mourinho threaten him? Why did rumours emerge that he could be benched if he didn't extend?
In the end they had a world class gk whose contract was due to expire in 2016. A keeper who had never played for them, who has been winning trophies at Atletico for 3 years, who was settled in Madrid and who had interest from both Madrid clubs. Chelsea however still made him extend his contract.
 
I find some of your posts totally surrealistic although I understand it as keeping the pride of the club.You make some rules for transfers affecting United but what about players that United wants without the consent of their clubs?.Otamendi for example,Valencia has said several times that they dont want to sell but United is still insisting,should the player stay until the end of the contract? .Being spaniard is an interesting point for Madrid but they will try to sign the best players in the world,doesn't matter the nationality.

Hey I don't blame Real Madrid for trying to sign De Gea! Why wouldn't they try?
Likewise, I have great respect for any club who stand up for themselves and refuse to be bullied. Tottenham, Bilbao etc.

It's about me wanting United to be the best in the world. I don't understand how so many United fans seem willing to lie down and accept that Madrid are a bigger club. In a couple of years, the financial balance in Spanish football is going to look a lot different and United will be in a far stronger position than Madrid. We should be stepping on the throat rather than allowing them to establish themselves as a superior club.

Through good business sense, impressive dealings in the transfer market and a strong mentality, Chelsea have established a position in world football that their history doesn't really warrant.

With all of our history, I'm worried we are going in the other direction.
 
Well then why did Mourinho threaten him? Why did rumours emerge that he could be benched if he didn't extend?
In the end they had a world class gk whose contract was due to expire in 2016. A keeper who had never played for them, who has been winning trophies at Atletico for 3 years, who was settled in Madrid and who had interest from both Madrid clubs. Chelsea however still made him extend his contract.
 
Totally agree, good post. Don't expect it to get read without bias though ;)

For some people, the status quo is as far as they can see :wenger:

Have a read through the past couple of pages!
I expect nothing on here!
 
As @akash02 said we didnt exactly let it run to a year, nobody knows how long is offer on a table. Maybe we offered him a new contract in the winter, maybe last summer. I bet club has done everything in their power for him to sign.
Then we should have benched him and played Valdes, I know it's harsh but other players will see this and think they can hold the club to ransom (thanks Rooney)!
 
Well then why did Mourinho threaten him? Why did rumours emerge that he could be benched if he didn't extend?
In the end they had a world class gk whose contract was due to expire in 2016. A keeper who had never played for them, who has been winning trophies at Atletico for 3 years, who was settled in Madrid and who had interest from both Madrid clubs. Chelsea however still made him extend his contract.

Because from what I remember he had no contacts with the club until Barcelona interest, which made him suspicious about Chelsea's real intentions, he asked them to clear their stance before, he makes any decisions.
There is very little chance that Chelsea would have benched him, they would have sold him in exchange of a very big check.
 
I just googled it.

Pretty much everything says Courtois wanted assurances of first team football before he signed any sort of new deal. There's also reports of interest from Barca which is what apparently prompted the comments from Mourinho not him staying at Atletico.

Courtois is also not Spanish or a Madridists like De Gea.

A terrible example used solely to have a dig at the club you support.
Not at all. If you read other posts carefully I am not a poster who has digs at our club, the opposite actually. That doesn't mean that I am not allowed to critisize the club at all or state what they could do differently or where they could learn from other clubs.
And as someone who has watched almost every Atletico game last year I do know (after reading a lot about it) that if it was in Courtois' hands he would have stayed at Atletico.
I am also sure United will learn from this and will from now on extend contracts 2 or even 3 years before they expire.
 
I have no opinions on this except after the season david should inform the club of his wishes. Whatever he decides dosent change where this club is going. He is replaceable
 
Has he agreed to go to Real Madrid? There are stories all over the net from news papers and Talk Sport.
Talk sport is quoting Marca.
"ll that needs to be completed, according to the report, is a transfer fee between the two clubs, with United wanting as much as £40million, while Real are keen to keep the figure around £30m."
 
Why doesnt De Gea man up, and stops being a pussy,and clarify himself what is really going

I expect his agent has told him to keep quiet until the end of the season. Good advice really. Sure, it encourages media speculation both here and in Spain and the fans don't like it, but let the lad concentrate on helping the team finish as high as we can. When it's over, then's the time to talk.
 
I am also sure United will learn from this and will from now on extend contracts 2 or even 3 years before they expire.

You can't do that,well at least you can't expect that, it's a bilateral decision, the club doesn't have more power than the player.
 
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