Mciahel Goodman
Worst Werewolf Player of All Times
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Bayern played hard ball with Ribéry and guess where he still is now.
Different situation.
Bayern played hard ball with Ribéry and guess where he still is now.
We can actually play hardball even with his contract due to them possibly being banned for a year or two for signing players
So I am sure Utd can still get a very good fee for him, not that I really give a shit about fees received
Different situation.
Barthez was highly fecking rated, though. Was one of the supposed best in the world. Had won the World Cup and European Championship with France, was a hell of a lot more regarded than Lloris. Yet, he turned out to be shite for us.
if its business for him it is business for us.
If this is true, its an absolute disgrace, if he wanted to go to Madrid, they should have went for him when he was at Athletico, why after like Ronaldo when they become the finished product they all just leave
Commercially we are the 2nd biggest club in the world, its a bloody joke how this happens, you wouldnt see RM, Barcelonas, Bayerns best player move to us or the other aforementioned clubs
I'm actually starting to hate this guy with a passion.
Just sign a new contract so we can at least get a decent fee, then you can feck off and get booed at the Bernabeu when Messi scores 5 goals past you.
Because of his relationship with Fergie.I'd actually say 2 and a half season's good form and then getting us shafted on transfer sale fee is a poor return for the £18m, sizable wages and effort we put into him.
No club is a charity, so why does any player show respect and loyalty to the club that helped him develop? Why did Ronaldo choose to in an almost identical situation?
Good post, agree with it all.If he leaves, I'd have no resentment for him. The bitterness it seems to conjuring up seems a bit mental. People hoping that he fails? I don't see what is worth getting worked up about. For all this "the fans have stood by him" noise, he's quite easily repaid that in supreme performances this season, making impossible saves and saving our blushes. What else does he owe us?
I genuinely think he is the 2nd best in the world currently - better than Courtois - and he's not that far off Neuer, IMO. An elite player should be playing at the elite level. We are 2-3 years minimum away from being a force in Europe, if we make the right decisions and if we get the right manager in after Van Gaal, and those are truly enormous IFs.
Can't really blame him if he does not want to be a part of a project where the future is relatively uncertain, when he could go to the biggest club in the world, be their undisputed #1, be his countrys #1, possibly go on to be captain of both, and be with his missus and his family.
Thiago from barcelona to bayernIf this is true, its an absolute disgrace, if he wanted to go to Madrid, they should have went for him when he was at Athletico, why after like Ronaldo when they become the finished product they all just leave
Commercially we are the 2nd biggest club in the world, its a bloody joke how this happens, you wouldnt see RM, Barcelonas, Bayerns best player move to us or the other aforementioned clubs
I hate it but that's the way it is, especially for players who grew up in those regions. They'll always go back when one of Barca/Real come calling. We wouldn't be having this problem with a goalie we developed from Scandinavia for instance.
Thiago from barcelona to bayern
Figo from barcelona to real
Kroos from bayern to real
They left for what they considered to be the better deal for themself. De Gea would be no different.Dont know about Figo, but Thiago and Kroos left both because they wanted playing time(Thiagos case), and Kroos(wanted more wages). De Gea is our first player on the teamsheet, plus im sure wages wise he defintely gets what he wants
Thiago from barcelona to bayern
Figo from barcelona to real
Kroos from bayern to real
Don't think he'll do as well at Madrid imho. It will be very interesting to see how he reacts when the fans get on his case once he's made a few mistakes. I don't think he's naturally a very confident person and can see him being upset at any negative reaction to him.
In any case, we need to get a good fee from Madrid somehow. We got a £750M deal from Adidas in the year we placed 7th in the league. Therefore why can't we play hard ball with Madrid?
We tell Dave, you can go but Madrid need to pay us what we want, or threaten to put him on the bench for the next season and thus scupper his chances of making Spain's national team for the 2016 Euros.
I see you mean because of the Solksjaer and Schmeichael , too bad there isnt much talent there though
But even then we are the only "elite" club who are up with Bayern, Barca, and RM, who cant keep our best players, really sucks. Plus I dont understand people wishing him the best and being happy for him if he leaves
Thats just small club mentality, when one of your players makes itto the big stage and fans are proud seeing their former player tearing it up at the top, but we are Manchester United ffs
The fans stayed with him in his first 2 years, where especially when he first came he really struggled, and got slaughtered in the media, now he`ll be voted PPOTY 2 years in a row , especially for a GK, you cant ask for better
One of these days, we will have to take one of Bayern's, Barcelona's or Real's players away.
Like roykeane19 just mentioned, that's small club mentality we're having (is it something that's more present in England?). If anything, United have to make sure we are one of those clubs that can keep top players at the club and say "feck off" to the rest.
Hargreaves. We were about to sign Thiago but Moyes decided against. We were about to sign kroos, but that was with Moyes in charge.One of these days, we will have to take one of Bayern's, Barcelona's or Real's players away.
Like roykeane19 just mentioned, that's small club mentality we're having (is it something that's more present in England?). If anything, United have to make sure we are one of those clubs that can keep top players at the club and say "feck off" to the rest.
Thiago from barcelona to bayern
Figo from barcelona to real
Kroos from bayern to real
The only thing that's helping me understand it is his missus. The real irony for me is that he never would have been afforded the time by the RM fans that he was given at Utd when he had a shaky start.
...Mark Bosnich isn't doing much these days...
Also those players are not even close to being the best players at there clubs when they were there
I hear you. Once players leave united this way after we develop them I couldn't care less how their careers turn out. Isn't this what most united fans do with Ronaldo? I don't know about you but he holds no special place with me just because we had him first.
Realistically, when he signed, everyone knew if he made it to the top of the game, there was no way he wouldn't go back to Spain at some point...as a keeper though, he could conceivably stay here for 5 more years, and still just be hitting his goalkeeping prime...which is a scary thought...
In the end, if he wants to go back to Spain, then fuck him, let him go...no player is bigger than the club...
We'll get someone else in, and we'll be fine...Mark Bosnich isn't doing much these days...
When we signed him I had a feeling this would happen eventually, but not this soon. I guess when it comes to goalies you really shouldn't be looking to get a few seasons out of a player, its the one position that should have players tied down to long term commitments.
Same I couldnt care less about Ronaldo, he never had any loyalty or "love" for united, all that is for Madrid, we were just a means to an end for him. The reason many fans clamour over Ronaldo and like him, even though he left, despite us trophy wise performing better than RM, even in Europe, is because people like to be associated with greatness, even though they get nothing from it
He has to ask himself where were Real when he needed a massive club to take the chance. We are that club. They have won 5 titles since 1996. 4 European Cups. Huge Club. But lets be honest. When it comes to glitter its the theatre of dreams all the way...
Much what?
Yep. One European cup in 12 years. Sounds better that way LOL.