Take a chill pill Jill.
De Gea Contract Situation
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Take a chill pill Jill.
None, which is the exact reason why you have to take the money and fund the purchase of a replacement. If you refuse the money you will have to pay 20m more than what you could have.
Edit: I said none but that's not true, you can purchase an excellent goalkeeper with a lot of potential with that, someone like Leno or Begovic, they are not as good as De Gea but they are good enough.
Johnstone 
That's right. Since the talks of a transfer ban are growing, I really want United to hold the line and see what happens. There's no need to feed those Real wankers at all. If that ban comes up, then let them choke to death with it.
We kept winning consistently
I do think a good or great keeper is very important but it's still possible to succeed without
I never in a million years thought de Gea was long term basically for the last three years. Anyone who did was fooling themselves. Even if shockingly he signs a new contract now. This will come up again in two years time. The guy is destined to be Reals new keeper end of story.
Trust the club will sign a suitable replacement, and sure if they dont and our outfield players are good enough we can still probably challenge next season for the PL
I'm totally ok with him leaving
Right, we take the money and we invest it in the squad. Realistically, we'll get somebody like Leno, who will need time to settle. We're also going to change half of our back 4. 3 new players at least out of 5. What if this becomes the reason for us leaking goals next year? Another finish out of the top 4? What happens then? Another round of 150 million spending which may or may not fix things?
We really need to get it right next season. The last thing we need is to look for new players in a position where we already have a world class player.
Johnstone
when was the last time a goalkeeper came through our academy and made it into the first team? serious question
Don't think he'll do as well at Madrid imho. It will be very interesting to see how he reacts when the fans get on his case once he's made a few mistakes. I don't think he's naturally a very confident person and can see him being upset at any negative reaction to him.
In any case, we need to get a good fee from Madrid somehow. We got a £750M deal from Adidas in the year we placed 7th in the league. Therefore why can't we play hard ball with Madrid?
We tell Dave, you can go but Madrid need to pay us what we want, or threaten to put him on the bench for the next season and thus scupper his chances of making Spain's national team for the 2016 Euros.
In any case, we need to get a good fee from Madrid somehow. We got a £750M deal from Adidas in the year we placed 7th in the league. Therefore why can't we play hard ball with Madrid?
We tell Dave, you can go but Madrid need to pay us what we want, or threaten to put him on the bench for the next season and thus scupper his chances of making Spain's national team for the 2016 Euros.
What have I missed lads?
Gutted he is leaving, but really has been brilliant for us.
But I feel it was always going to happen. To go to Real (or Barca) is just too much of a draw for Spanish players.
Hopefully this could open the door to a player from Real moving the other way.
But I feel it was always going to happen. To go to Real (or Barca) is just too much of a draw for Spanish players.
Hopefully this could open the door to a player from Real moving the other way.
At the end of the day De Gea is exactly the right keeper we needed at exactly the right time.
If he does want to leave then so be it. We'll (hopefully) have a better and stronger back 3/4/5 next season making us less reliant on shot stopping brilliance.
I do want him to stay, but I'm not worried if he leaves.
If he does want to leave then so be it. We'll (hopefully) have a better and stronger back 3/4/5 next season making us less reliant on shot stopping brilliance.
I do want him to stay, but I'm not worried if he leaves.
More than one game? Kevin Pilkington played a handful of games between 95-97 when Pete was injured
We always seemed to lose too
That's it, take a stand. We won't accept any less then £35-40M. Want him, come and get him.
We didn't win in Europe with those goalkeepers. I mean: there can not be any coincidence that our Champions League triumphs came when we arguably had the best goalkeeper in the world in our hands. Also, you have to remember that even winning the Premier League has become extremely hard without a top quality goalkeeper (which can also be true for any discipline that involves a goalie).
2 years ago I would have said no way...but since we signed mata we should be on the phone to Jose and sweet talking him right now
Cech would be my number one choice...feel sorry for Valdes. I really rated him but injuries and so long without playing he would be a risk
Cech would be my number one choice...feel sorry for Valdes. I really rated him but injuries and so long without playing he would be a risk
People need to realize that the other goalkeepers, the likes of Hart, Bravo, Ter Stegen, Navas, Buffon, Leno, Handanovic, etc...
Aren't shit, they do their jobs very well, the only difference is that Neuer, Courtois or De Gea managed to do special things. With a very good goalkeeper we will be fine.
40m for a player in the last year of his contract is not how these things work unfortunately. All the power is with De Gea and his agent in this situation. We'll be reasonable because we have no use for an unhappy player who doesn't want to be here anymore.
A couple weeks ago some poster mocked those of us that thought he would leave by referring to us as "fans" because the idea of him leaving is so incredulous to the poster. Wonder where that poster is now
The thing is, we have the power to do that.
Real might have the advantage of de Gea only having one year left on his contract, but Real also have the possibility of being transfer banned. Saying that, it's a HUGE risk for us to pull that card. If we say £35m and he's yours, and Madrid say no, if they don't get banned, they get him for free when his contract expires. On the other hand, we could say £35m and he's yours, and Madrid could be thinking about this ban and pay up if they really want him. If they don't pay up, and get transfer banned, then de Gea has two option... re-sign with us, or go elsewhere - but if he really wants to go to Madrid, would he choose anywhere else, regardless of how many clubs want him?
Madrid one with a no longer world class Iker. Barcelona have won with Valdes who many considered shit
We didn't win in Europe with those goalkeepers. I mean: there can not be any coincidence that our Champions League triumphs came when we arguably had the best goalkeeper in the world in our hands. Also, you have to remember that even winning the Premier League has become extremely hard without a top quality goalkeeper (which can also be true for any discipline that involves a goalie).
Joe hart is often criticised and man city won the title twice in two years
I dunno, maybe come out and say it instead of this will-he-won't-he drama that's dragged on for far too long? No, he doesn't owe us anything. He does owe a lot to Atletico though, but that doesn't concern us.
I can only speak for myself. I wouldn't begrudge a move away to Madrid at the best of times. Even more so when United are in transition. My problem is with the soap opera this has become. Come out and say yes, I want to leave and we'll deal with it.
None of that changes my opinion that our club fell well short in future planning and succession planning in the year around Ferguson's departure. Losing leverage by letting our best player run down his contact is unforgivable from a management perspective.
I'm not arguing with your point that long term, we'll be fine with a good goalkeeper. I mean, we won titles with Roy Carroll in goal! My point is that right now, we need a goalkeeper who can do special things because we need to overhaul our defence. Even if we do sign Clyne and Hummels and have them start along with Smalling and Shaw/Blind, they will make mistakes which may cost us. We stand a better chance of successfully building from the back with De Gea in goal, as opposed to a Leno or even a Lloris.
I would like us to sign a more commanding 'keeper to replace him, because we won't find a better shot stopper.
So to clarify, has there actually been any reputable source giving some solid indication that he is leaving, or has the caf just collectively made up its mind?
I also think he will leave by the way, just wondering if I have missed some news - doesnt appear to be anything on the BBC though.
I also think he will leave by the way, just wondering if I have missed some news - doesnt appear to be anything on the BBC though.
Sorry, but I've witnessed the horrible years between Schmeichel and VDS. A world class goalkeeper is a very hard thing to find, and if you end up with someone like Barthez or Howard, it can be the difference between winning the league/CL and winning nothing.
Cech
If the rumours are true & he wants out, then i'd really like to see United playin hardball with this one - especially considering its Real that's always f*ckin with our shit.
If United arent gonna get any sort of decent money for him (which is doubtful & probably £20m or less - what we paid for him) - then f*ck him & make him see out his contract & lose him for nothing next year. We can take a hit like that. Dortmund made that stand with Lewondowski too & he left on a free a year later. I liked the stand they made, but they're not minted like we are though.
We're being shafted here, so f*ck them out of principle & not get screwed over by De Gea & Real. I doubt De Gea will purposely play badly next season, because he'll still want Real to be interested then.
Bayern got shafted last season with Kroo's winding down his contract (Karma) & Real gettin him for £20m. Real are doin the same shit again.
Would love it if we said "he's goin nowhere..". We could possibly get his replacement in this window too - Begovic or Lloris etc. and bench him to be right pricks
If United arent gonna get any sort of decent money for him (which is doubtful & probably £20m or less - what we paid for him) - then f*ck him & make him see out his contract & lose him for nothing next year. We can take a hit like that. Dortmund made that stand with Lewondowski too & he left on a free a year later. I liked the stand they made, but they're not minted like we are though.
We're being shafted here, so f*ck them out of principle & not get screwed over by De Gea & Real. I doubt De Gea will purposely play badly next season, because he'll still want Real to be interested then.
Bayern got shafted last season with Kroo's winding down his contract (Karma) & Real gettin him for £20m. Real are doin the same shit again.
Would love it if we said "he's goin nowhere..". We could possibly get his replacement in this window too - Begovic or Lloris etc. and bench him to be right pricks
I can only assume long before my time. But Johnstone looks to have the most potential of any keeper that's come through in a while.
I'd be more than happy with Cech but don't see it happening.Cech
He is off, already voted no when this thread was created. Football is business and Only fans and a very limited bunch of players have heart and loyalty for a club. Can't disagree with him though, two horrible years and no guarantee of winning a price in the foreseable future. Ofcourse he will have no guarantees at Real bit still with only 2 clubs (supposedly that Atletico was a one timer) that compete for the title chances are much higher. It is his homeland so I guess it is cya.
It is a dame shame though, we nurtured him in a worldclass gk and now he is at full strength he leaves. I have the utmost faith in LvG to get us silverware but he may see otherwise. After all, same as RvP, Fergie was a big reason to come here.
Though there is no need to despair, there are other very good gk on the market that do want to play for us. Cech, Valdes, Lloris and several more. Louis will find a good replacement.
It is a dame shame though, we nurtured him in a worldclass gk and now he is at full strength he leaves. I have the utmost faith in LvG to get us silverware but he may see otherwise. After all, same as RvP, Fergie was a big reason to come here.
Though there is no need to despair, there are other very good gk on the market that do want to play for us. Cech, Valdes, Lloris and several more. Louis will find a good replacement.
We can actually play hardball even with his contract due to them possibly being banned for a year or two for signing players
So I am sure Utd can still get a very good fee for him, not that I really give a shit about fees received
So I am sure Utd can still get a very good fee for him, not that I really give a shit about fees received
We signed shit goalkeepers, we don't have to sign the likes of Bosnish, Taibi or Howard. With the 20m we can fund the purchase of a top 10 goalkeeper.
If the rumours are true & he wants out, then i'd really like to see United playin hardball with this one - especially considering its Real that's always f*ckin with our shit.
If United arent gonna get any sort of decent money for him (which is doubtful & probably £20m or less - what we paid for him) - then f*ck him & make him see out his contract & lose him for nothing next year. We can take a hit like that. Dortmund made that stand with Lewondowski too & he left on a free a year later. I liked the stand they made, but they're not minted like we are though.
We're being shafted here, so f*ck them out of principle & not get screwed over by De Gea & Real. I doubt De Gea will purposely play badly next season, because he'll still want Real to be interested then.
Bayern got shafted last season with Kroo's winding down his contract (Karma) & Real gettin him for £20m. Real are doin the same shit again.
Would love it if we said "he's goin nowhere..". We could possibly get his replacement in this window too - Begovic or Lloris etc. and bench him to be right pricks
I disagree. I think if he wants to leave, then sell him. Playing hardball is pointless, helps no one.
Barthez was highly fecking rated, though. Was one of the supposed best in the world. Had won the World Cup and European Championship with France, was a hell of a lot more regarded than Lloris. Yet, he turned out to be shite for us.
I Accept De Gea leaving but what hacks me of so much is the thought of us selling one of the best Goalkeepers in the world at 24 who We have developed into one of the best Goalkeepers and selling him for peanuts to one of the richest clubs in the world, I would honestly rather we refuse to let him leave this summer and make him sign a new contract and then next summer promise if Madrid offer a good amount of money we will let him go, alternatively he can be #2 to Valdes all of next season.
We are due some respect back from this guy, we conceded a lot of goals and stick at the start with him and helped develop him into a world class player and gave him that platform, now he has had a season where he has had to make a lot of saves and earned us points alone and were supposed to just grant him whatever he wants ?
I hope he has the decency to let us cash in on or else he can watch from that bench next season and Madrid can shove that 20-30m quid up there arse, its nothing to us and I would rather we let him leave on a free next season.
We are due some respect back from this guy, we conceded a lot of goals and stick at the start with him and helped develop him into a world class player and gave him that platform, now he has had a season where he has had to make a lot of saves and earned us points alone and were supposed to just grant him whatever he wants ?
I hope he has the decency to let us cash in on or else he can watch from that bench next season and Madrid can shove that 20-30m quid up there arse, its nothing to us and I would rather we let him leave on a free next season.
Bayern played hard ball with Ribéry once and guess where he still is now.
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