That's the disappointing aspect of the situation. Sadly, we've got our arses entangled in the Mendes web here.
De Gea Contract Situation
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He's gone, been obvious for ages tbh. Writing was on the wall when we signed Valdes who I assume was brought in as a backup plan.
Question is who will be his replacement.
Question is who will be his replacement.
See above in your own post, mate...
Well if we do end up selling him let's make sure we get top money for once....you listening here Ed? (Or Bale in exchange might be an acceptable option).
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I'm confident we could keep him. I think he's happy here and would stay, but I think the big sticking point for him is whether we'll still be able to compete for trophies. If we can't do that, then he'll look to go somewhere where he can. I think he stays another season to see where we're heading and if we fail to launch a serious title challenge and don't do well in the Champions League he'll be off.
I think his girlfriend has been made a scapegoat when really she's not that an important factor. Remember he was already with her and in Madrid when he decided to move here, if being apart was such a huge problem he likely wouldn't have moved here in the first place.
In regards to Valdes, I don't think there's a connection between signing him and De Gea leaving. Valdes had no club and was free. Put yourself in LvG's shoes. If something God forbid happened to De Gea, you could either have Valdes or Lindegaard as a backup. What do you think he'd choose? Considering his importance on GK's who can play a pass, the idea of having to use Lindegaard probably scared the hell out of him. Also, Valdes is a Mendes player which probably played a part as well.
I think his girlfriend has been made a scapegoat when really she's not that an important factor. Remember he was already with her and in Madrid when he decided to move here, if being apart was such a huge problem he likely wouldn't have moved here in the first place.
In regards to Valdes, I don't think there's a connection between signing him and De Gea leaving. Valdes had no club and was free. Put yourself in LvG's shoes. If something God forbid happened to De Gea, you could either have Valdes or Lindegaard as a backup. What do you think he'd choose? Considering his importance on GK's who can play a pass, the idea of having to use Lindegaard probably scared the hell out of him. Also, Valdes is a Mendes player which probably played a part as well.
Heard that his missus wants him to leave Manchester for sunnier climates too.. We should only sign gay players now - they'd f*ckin love Manchester!
Reading the Madrid forum & most have him in their starting line up for next season on the transfer thread, I guess they just assume he will be joining them, what they want they get and all that.
Have you seen our transfer thread lineups?
Works of muppetry art they are..
Would love him to stay, but to be honest, if he's stalling over a supposed 200K a week, why persuade him to stay?
Players shouldn't need to be persuaded to stay at United. This is always the risk of buying Spanish players.
If they turn out to be world class, they're like bitches on heat, and Real and Barca are scratching at the door.
Players shouldn't need to be persuaded to stay at United. This is always the risk of buying Spanish players.
If they turn out to be world class, they're like bitches on heat, and Real and Barca are scratching at the door.
Yeah I know, it just seems different though when you see our player in someone else's transfer muppet dream.
Surely he's gone. Why else would Valdes sign and not complain about not playing for a whole season while fit?
We're even going to get mugged on the price, and probably get mugged again when we try to sign someone like Lloris.
We're even going to get mugged on the price, and probably get mugged again when we try to sign someone like Lloris.
Torres signing?
Quick, stick him on £200,000 a week - he looks like a nice guy and 'I like his face'!!!
If we don't sign Torres you know next season he'll regain his world class form and start scoring for fun!
Am I doing it right...?
So, did he sign*yet?
for Madrid
for Madrid
You must be confident you'll sign him?
Not worth the hassle worrying about it tbh.. Lets just see how it pans out!
Yes, signing a contract would guarantee us more money, but the risk for him I suppose is, IF he WANTS to go, signing a contract to drive up the price there's the risk it may also drive off Real Madrid.
We'd be talking from Madrid paying about 20-25 mil to going up to 35-45 mil I would have thought.
So for him if he wants to go it's about balancing doing right for us as well us actually guaranteeing getting his transfer.
Plus the more money they pay in transfer fees the less they are likely to pay in wages/bonuses etc
This whole situation says a lot about De Gea. If a cnut like Suarez and an egomanian like Ronald could sign a contract to let their club get their true worth, why can't Mr. Nice Guy do it? He should not be worried about anything, it's totally fine if he wants to return to Spain but by all means inform the club of your decision and do it quick , if Real Madrid want him, they'll pay for him, that's how football works. At this point, I don't care whether he stays or leaves, and though I don't know what happens behind the scenes, if he's not willing to sign a contract [and i assume that's the case] then by all means get a good young GK, ship him off to Real Madrid and be done with it.
Sure loosing him would be a big blow but at this point I dont care if he'll stay because we're waiting still for his big decision. I just want it to clear itself and we know with which GK are we going into next season.
Yeah, that's true but at the same time I don't think that would stop Real. I think 45m is more than a fair price and they're obviously not scared of spending or even overspending (cough*Bale*cough).
When Suarez signed his contract I doubt he was fully expecting Barcelona to come in and get him. So his situation is a little bit different to De Gea's where it seems pretty obvious that Madrid are interested so increasing his price would be risky.
Just speculation of course, but I always thought Suarez seemed confident that someone would come and rescue him from Anfield, even after the new contract. I mean, by then it was glaringly obvious how ridiculously good he was.
Problem with that article is that allegedly De Gea and Iker dont get on at all... Makes the rest of it a bit wishy washy.
It seems pretty obvious though that if he wanted to sign on it would have happened by now, I think most people here know the truth but don't want to believe it
I don't know, Mitten usually seems to know his business.
The idea of Valdes and Casillas competing for the nr.1 at United though
Yeah, he's gone. I'd say that's fairly certain at this stage. I always thought he might stay at least one more year but even that's looking unlikely. Not sure the club would be willing to let him run his contract down to leave on a free. That's a big chunk of cash going up in smoke.
Given we've all but secured our Champions League place and he still hasn't signed, it's growing ever more clear that he's going to be off this summer. I hope not, but if he does leave we need to push RM for a big fee. Even though 'keepers don't tend to go for big money, to us he is worth big money. Without him I doubt we'd have made 4th place this season, and without him it'll be imperative that we shore up our leaky defence.
I worry though that unless he signs a new contract to allow us to get more money out of RM, the only way we'll get what he's worth would be for the rumoured transfer embargo to be implemented (and for them to appeal it until next summer). With DDG out of contract at exactly the time when RM couldn't register new players, we'd have a strong hand and might be able to get more for him. But if not and we lose him for £20m or less, it'll be a massive blow. We'll be losing one of the world's best goalkeepers who's only likely to get better over the next 10 years.
I worry though that unless he signs a new contract to allow us to get more money out of RM, the only way we'll get what he's worth would be for the rumoured transfer embargo to be implemented (and for them to appeal it until next summer). With DDG out of contract at exactly the time when RM couldn't register new players, we'd have a strong hand and might be able to get more for him. But if not and we lose him for £20m or less, it'll be a massive blow. We'll be losing one of the world's best goalkeepers who's only likely to get better over the next 10 years.
Well if I had any small hopes that De Gea might stay, they definitely are well and truly gone.
Agreed, Mitten seems to be the most well connected journo out there covering United, the fact that he's somewhat a specialist on Spanish football (or Barcelona I believe) makes him even more reliable.I don't know, Mitten usually seems to know his business.
The idea of Valdes and Casillas competing for the nr.1 at United though
If De Gea signs a new contract it would be a massive bonus for me, almost like signing a new player. Although I presume he'll end up in Madrid within a year or two anyway, like Ronaldo did. There's nothing stopping Real from getting whoever they want.
Yeah true. With his form it was obvious someone would get him.
The Mitten stuff seems to be pretty grim reading. He's gone. My 10% belief that he was staying is now done to about 5%.
Mendes would benefit more so if De Gea stays with us (higher wages) or if De Gea signs a contract and makes his move next summer with a big transfer fee. Not sure how much blame can be applied to Mendes when the player wants to go home.
He is gone... Given the the position we are at the moment, it is not being announced since our remaining games are important and we do not want to upset the squad balance and risk unnecessary pressure from the fans.
Signing Valdes makes a lot more sense now since De Gea probably informed LVG of his decision a while back.
I think we should make a move for Cech since he has the potential to be a van der Sar type of impactful signing. We will have to overpay but it is worth it.
Signing Valdes makes a lot more sense now since De Gea probably informed LVG of his decision a while back.
I think we should make a move for Cech since he has the potential to be a van der Sar type of impactful signing. We will have to overpay but it is worth it.
It's not different mate. No world class player should be afraid of what it would cost other clubs to sign them, I don't agree with this notion that if he signs a contract then Real Madrid would not want to sign him, it's rubbish. Real Madrid want him because he's one of the best in the world, not because he's cheap. Suarez knew there was interest, I'm sure Barca didn't just contact him the month they signed him. It's not too much to ask Mr.Nice guy to do the same.
Didn't United almost finish midtable last year with DDG?
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