Day 8 | Slovakia vs Ukraine | Poland vs Austria | Netherlands vs France

Does it matter?

I don't think the referees have to estimate the keeper's chance of saving it. That's a never ending discussion. The reality of the matter is that the dutch player prevented him from diving for it even if he wanted to.

Assume they would have stood at the other post. Nobody would call it offside because the goal keeper could not have saved it anyway. It ultimately comes down to the question whether or not a save was impossible.
 
Five minutes? Taylor and Attwell spent longer than that verbally stroking each other off!
 
Griezmann has been crap.

Just can’t understand why he has been played out wide all game.

All good players, but tchouameni, kante and rabiot feels like overkill.

Especially with all the good wingers they’ve got.

Surely you get griezman at 10.

I know they have won stuff so partly justified, but Deschamps is very negative tactically considering the players he has.
 
Just can’t understand why he has been played out wide all game.

All good players, but tchouameni, kante and rabiot feels like overkill.

Especially with all the good wingers they’ve got.

Surely you get griezman at 10.

I know they have won stuff so partly justified, but Deschamps is very negative tactically considering the players he has.
He is supposed to play as a 10. feck knows whatever else he's been in the pitch
 
Assume they would have stood at the other post. Nobody would call it offside because the goal keeper could not have saved it anyway. It ultimately comes down to the question whether or not a save was impossible.

It comes down the question whether the offside player prevented the keeper from having any chance.

I'd say he did.
 
They should bring in bonus points for 4 goals in the pool stage matches to try and rid us of this miserable scourge of cowardly and conservative international managers
 
3 minutes and 3 seconds for the VAR decision alone according to RTE. 6 subs at 30 seconds each. Rabiot's injury which was well over a minute = 5 minutes apparently.

Taylor is a poison to football.
 
5 minutes added on but there was 7 added on in the fa cup final haha absolute corrupt joke
 
Assume they would have stood at the other post. Nobody would call it offside because the goal keeper could not have saved it anyway. It ultimately comes down to the question whether or not a save was impossible.
I’d compare it to when a player knocks the ball past a defender and then gets bought down. It’s a penalty regardless of if the player would have been able to get the ball before it went out for a goal kick or not.
 
The point was that you can easily see that the goalkeeper is out of balance and therefore he can't do anything to save it. He literally only sees the Netherlands player after the ball has flown in , the replay from behind is quite telling in terms of when he actually looks at him. The replay from behind makes it a more interesting situation to debate rather than the other clips that would indicate he was blocked from doing anything.

You can't tell that at all. As the ball leaves Simon's foot, Maignan is literally leaning over towards the side the ball went. The Dutch 22 is in front of him and to the side, meaning it's possible he had at least a peripheral awareness of him, and he then he ends up straightening up and standing because there's a massive man in an orange shirt between him and where he needs to dive.

As you said originally, it was an easy decision to make and that's because you can't stand a player next to the keeper and claim he's not in the way of shots going that side of the goal.
 
God I hope France doesn’t win this tournament.
 
The difference between these teams are it's clear France have been playing in second gear. And they've got Mbappe in reserve. This is the best you'll get from Holland.
 
Deschamps is just Southgate with clutch players.......
 
France look like they have a giant swinging dick in attack, but it's truly the limpest one in the world, especially without Mbappé.
 
Are the Dutch in line to play England if they finish 3rd?
I believe it's a possibility but it will depend on the rankings between the third placed. I'm not really clear on how its decided between Group D, E or F
 
England and France determimed to kill the vibe of the Euros. Sleep inducing.