I would imagine so but I’m still taking the bait.
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I would imagine so but I’m still taking the bait.
Yep, they both will be very happy with that.
4 would be too many, but for 3 maybe?
Definite goal looking at the replay.
Atwell robbed them
Fairly predictable 0-0 as it suits both sides but it shouldn’t have been with that goal.
Rabiot has been fantastic in the world cup as well, excellent player.
Of course it was!
Although fair to ask, as you never know these days with the idiots who inhabit...
neither team the second half willing to open things up
Wasn't Taylor tbf. It's whoever was in that VAR box.
That's completely different. You're talking about a foul in the box which is a pen.
This is about whether he interfered. It's a contentious one and the pundits I'm watching can't agree either.
Deschamps should join Southgate in being put on trial in The Hague for crimes against humanity
Both teams looked poor
Dumfries was stood beside him, not in his sight and Maignan never even saw the ball coming. 1 Dumfries, 10 Dumfries or no Dumfries, he was never going to save that.
It's fairly easy to tell it from the replay where you see where his focus is. He steps to the left as a natural reaction, but his balance is awkward and there's no chance he can actually jump to any side, and he literally only looks to the side after the ball has gone in.
Not that it really matters, because according to the rules it's offside.
Southgate could work wonders with both these sides.
Just dour all round.
Just dour all round.
They were both happy with a draw, I think.
But him just being there is a distraction to the keeper. Doesn’t matter if he’d have saved it or not. All the BBC pundits reckon it was harsh and I genuinely believe they’d be saying it was right if it happened in an England game that benefited us.
Probably yeah, but after the first 15-20mins France didn’t look like scoring and I don’t think they could have with the way they set up.
The keeper was off balance and doesn't even attempt a dive as he wasn't in a position to do so. I don't think he prevented him from challenging for the ball as he wasn't doing that anyway.
Just seen the offside decision, can't agree with it.
Quite sad that our star player in attack (Memphis) has been subbed off twice for Weghorst
Deserved too. Memphis has been largely invisible.
Deserved too. Memphis has been largely invisible.
Being a distraction isn't in the rules. He had to prevent the keeper from challenging for the ball which I don't think he was doing anyway.
I was watching without sound and my assumption was that they’d given it because it looked like he'd have been blocking the keeper from attempting the save. Don’t think he’d have got there though, so for me if its not distraction then it’s a dubious call
The useless Stuart Atwell.
Shay Given says it's a good goal.
So you could says he’s Given it?
Agree with that, he wasn’t making the save or attempting too, so my thought was it must be for distraction, which isn’t in the rules?
I don’t understand the Tchouameni hype. He looks a distant third best in a midfield with Rabiot and an older Kante. Rabiot did have a solid game though.
If that's what would happen then that's what he should attempt anyway and immediately complain to the ref. I don't think that's how it was though, he looked taken aback by the play and not due to the attacker next to him.
Anyone with a gif?
Tchouameni is there because he is a strong body. Otherwise he is useless in terms of ball progression
Given remembers Henry
France are tactically light-years ahead of England, even if not pretty to watch.
Netherlands did the right thing by closing the shop as they would've been killed if they opened any space. France play now the weakest team in the group while Netherlands will have to wrestle with a very impressive Austria. England will go out after their first meeting with a decent team.
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You can't have officials basing decisions like this on whether they think the goalkeeper is getting there. Their job is to determine if an offside player is interfering with the goalkeeper's ability to make a save, and aside from being directly in front him, you'd struggle to find much more obvious interference than standing directly next to him, blocking any potential path to the ball.
Simply put, the difference maker in the decision shouldn't be how "balanced" the keeper appeared to be.
Deschamps plays the players in their correct position mostly. Our players are just in terrible form overall.
Southgate is something else
Physically stop? I’d argue simply being there and being another thing to consider for the keeper might have prevented him from diving for it. Like I said before, the keeper would have to also consider the player getting a touch on it so he might not have wanted to fully commit. We could argue forever but my main frustration lies with the player not getting back on side in time. The Dutch are my best chance at seeing something positive in this Euros so would have loved a win there.
The players simply suck. The fact that a retired player Ngolo Kante is playing in such matches in winning man of the match rewards shows you that the talent simply isn't there in football anymore.
Netherlands robbed. Clear goal
I saw Pogba lose his mind trying to play in a two man midfield with him a while ago and I don’t think he’s progressed since.