Also is it just me or is the diving noticeably worse than in club football? Every game is dive after dive and they all get given. Seems way worse than the Premier league or Champions League.
Day 3 | Poland vs Netherlands | Slovenia vs Denmark | Serbia vs England
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I mean that's pretty damning of how poorly structured our attacking formation is, we just don't make many chances as Foden just goes missing, Saka beats the first man but then doesn't make anything happen and Kane getting 0 service and basically just playing for fouls all night.
He was the difference maker in a literal sense but I didn't think he was very good overall. Latter Real Madrid games in the Champions league and tonight he's clearly very strong but that's about it, just turns in circles. I know he's young but he gets spoken about like Tony Kroos etc but I've seen very little of him creating with the ball that makes me actually think he's amazing. Good at crashing the box though, can't argue that.
Right, so you don't mean the middle 3 like a sane person, but 3 behind Kane. It's not really any different to what we played, not worse not better. It doesn't solve our problems.
Grealish is work horse, he would mask your wekanes on LB. Then put Rice (he is fecking mint) and Mainoo to shield midifield, while Saka, Kane and Foden does do damage. I would drop Jude, he is out of form for last 2 monhs
I don't understand why you keep saying that, what player would be out of position in my suggestions?
Are you high?
I have responded to a lot since then. I think you said Palmer on the left.
Guehi was good, I like him. Stones lost the ball a lot.
Bellingham did the same job but drove us forward too. He was the best player on that pitch to me, without the goal. But I respect your opinion, but in future maybe you should just state what you mean rather than being elusive for no reason?
We havent even had a full first round yet. I still want to see France and Portugal first to pick my favorite based on the first round. England was worse than i expected though.
No, I said bring on palmer and watkins for foden and kane.
He was at the front of our attacking with kane, we just broke the record for least shots. Yes amazing, truly inspiring, we will talk about this performance for decades. The defenders at least did their job.
Yes, so who plays left, who plays up front?
So what did he do? Where is his attacking? Outside the goal, what?
Im not denying his ability, but I think the post match eulogy from the BBC was way over the top considering his second half wasn’t great and the overall team performance was poor.
Yeah yeah yeah, your shtick is nothing new on here.
Have another drink and be merry. You've pushed this one a bit too far and made it too obvious.
People laugh at Sir Gareth but he quietly breaking records.
The Irish media isn't as nauseating when it comes to anything to do with Ireland?
Come on man, you know how this goes. He is very decent, and us English will pin all our hopes on here and then hate his guts the moment we lose. But surely everyone knows not to listen to the media, no matter where you are from and what you are viewing
I feel like you're trying to make a lineup to start a match in your mind. Forget that. It was 20 min to go, serbia was replacing defenders to go all in in the attack. You don't think two top players like bellingham and palmer could both play in the center for a short time to provide for 2 fast players like watkins and bowen?
Plenty of times this season you had arsenal do just that to finish teams off, somet5imes putting jesus more to the left, sometimes martinelli in the middle. Managers do changes all the time that completely differ from the initial lineup positions.
I thought Bellingham was brilliant in the first half. Best I've seen him play.
Second half he was anonymous which is what I thought about him in all of Madrids big CL games. A whiff of English Pogba about him maybe? Great on the front foot but not likely to dig you out when you're under pressure.
I don't no, I think they will make a mess of it and create problems for ourselves.
I don't see how without Palmer we create very very little, that somehow we do well with attack.
Outside the goal we had 1/2 good chances, that's pathetic. None of our attacking players did well.
Because serbia was risking more and more every minute. Logically attackers will have more space to attack, and with 3 fast players fresh in the attack, you are more likely to score.
Southgate showed small team mentality.
BBC analysis was really bad, but anyone unfortunate enough to see MOTD recently knows it's dreadful. Too many England captains and too many old men.
But might also do the opposite. Palmer isn't fast either. End of the day we won, terrible football attacking wise, but we also gave them nothing.
Kobbie MOTM
A testament to England's defensive prowess and tactical nous that they managed to completely neuter both Serbia's and their own attacks.
Of course, managers never know how it's going to pan out, but to me the subs show a negative mentality from southgate which will eventually see him knocked out.
Well if he did what you said, and we drew or lost, what do you think people would say? They would have said that's a terrible idea and he should be sacked because of it, no good manager would do that.
A great great squad. But management? Forget it.
Taking off a striker and 2 attacking mids to put on a striker and 2 attacking mids is hardly the suicide tactic you're trying to make this out to be. Top managers do it all the time to kill off opponents. They do what southgate did when it's 5 min to go, not a third of the match.
Prime Garethball. Low risk, slow build-up, lots of passing in front of the opposition, few runs through or behind to break the lines of defence, lose control of the match when the opposition ups their game, hang on to the end. (Conceding goals optional).
What did he say?ETH is cooking Southgate on Dutch TV
details pleaseETH is cooking Southgate on Dutch TV
I made a mess of that !! But to be fair they both start with S
Ah, this explains why we're interested in him then
Why? I would build England squad around Foden, Rice, Mainoo, Saka, Jude and Kane. Is this that really that controversial?
Foden plays for City and lots of UTD don't like him but his class. Same as Rice.
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Foden plays for City and lots of UTD don't like him but his class. Same as Rice.
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boring ass game