Ironically - I've actually thought the opposite so far. I'm mildy pleased with the relative lack of theatrics compared to both - Spain aside but thats to be expected. Im sure it ll get worse though once the top teams meet.
Day 3 | Poland vs Netherlands | Slovenia vs Denmark | Serbia vs England
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Said his game plan was to gamble on not conceding after going 1-0 up.
Netherlands played well; we should have put away more chances though, for a 4-1 scoreline or more. Depay missed some sitters that he usually puts away, among other missed chances.
Ten Hag pointed out Weghorst created the room for his goal himself. Watch his run dragging the defender to the right, then he goes left to tap in the ball he knew would come.
England was shiite; Tadic should have started for Serbia. You are lucky you didn’t lose this game.
Ten Hag pointed out Weghorst created the room for his goal himself. Watch his run dragging the defender to the right, then he goes left to tap in the ball he knew would come.
England was shiite; Tadic should have started for Serbia. You are lucky you didn’t lose this game.
Weird, i was convinced i had woken up in the night and checked the final score of Serbia-England and that it ended 1-1, must have been dreaming 
Don't we always start tournaments like this, it's just that we didn't use to win the game as well.
Expecting a pretty similar performance against Denmark, when realistically we're basically through already and can afford to play a bit more expensively.
Expecting a pretty similar performance against Denmark, when realistically we're basically through already and can afford to play a bit more expensively.
Classic Southgate performance, play well to start with, score early, then sit back and hold on without any real attacking drive for the rest of the match. He's done it ever since he's been in charge, no surprises here.
Well he’s not wrong plus a bit of venom in there for someone who they wanted for his job
A bit disappointed in England, expected to roll over Serbia, a team with piss poor results in big tournaments but they made them look better than they actually are.
At least this time they are waiting for it willingly
Just seems to over egg every movement
Because they don't fit each other and it's unbalanced.
Do like how every other big team so far has either dominated their game, played really good football, or both.
Then England turn up and both look unconvincing and serve up about as much entertainment as a plate of lettuce.
Not that England have actually done anything the last 2 years to suggest they'd live up to the billing, mind. Its hard to be a good football team when yoir manager is anti football.
Then England turn up and both look unconvincing and serve up about as much entertainment as a plate of lettuce.
Not that England have actually done anything the last 2 years to suggest they'd live up to the billing, mind. Its hard to be a good football team when yoir manager is anti football.
"I don't want to have to answer 50 questions about why I'm dropping Foden before the next game" is my guess
I met my Dr last week, who's heavily into football, who's Spanish. He asked if I was looking forward to the Euros and that England look great on paper. I said yes, but it's no good if they don't start believing it.
Watching England last night just proved it. When you go down that team sheet, you've got players from Bayern, Real, Liverpool, Arsenal, City...but they operate like they're playing for the local pub team at times. What's Southgate teaching them?
Sideways passes, keep the ball but don't feed the front men. We've got Walker, one of the fastest right backs in the world, with Saka in front of him, who's quick himself, but barely played him in.
Then you've got Foden, who at City floats about in all sorts of dangerous positions, just kicking the ball sideways and backwards to the defenders. It's like they're frightened of going forward or making a mistake.
Trippier was often making runs, as was Saka, but no one was picking them out.
Also Bellingham. Great player, had a good game, huge potential still to come, but if you watch him carefully, the amount of times he looked up at the TV screen in the center of the pitch trying to catch a glimpse of himself...jeez.
I fear for him, that he's trying to live up to a Messi/Ronaldo standard and is more worried about becoming the next global superstar than actually getting on with the job of playing football properly in a team. He needs to just ignore all that fuss and the media, just focus on the football. The rest will come naturally.
I just wonder what Southgates philosophy is, I watched that game and it felt so negative, especially the 2nd half. A shudder went through me thinking he could be our next manager if ETH screws up.
Ps. Thought Rice was superb though, soaked up and disrupted so much play.
Watching England last night just proved it. When you go down that team sheet, you've got players from Bayern, Real, Liverpool, Arsenal, City...but they operate like they're playing for the local pub team at times. What's Southgate teaching them?
Sideways passes, keep the ball but don't feed the front men. We've got Walker, one of the fastest right backs in the world, with Saka in front of him, who's quick himself, but barely played him in.
Then you've got Foden, who at City floats about in all sorts of dangerous positions, just kicking the ball sideways and backwards to the defenders. It's like they're frightened of going forward or making a mistake.
Trippier was often making runs, as was Saka, but no one was picking them out.
Also Bellingham. Great player, had a good game, huge potential still to come, but if you watch him carefully, the amount of times he looked up at the TV screen in the center of the pitch trying to catch a glimpse of himself...jeez.
I fear for him, that he's trying to live up to a Messi/Ronaldo standard and is more worried about becoming the next global superstar than actually getting on with the job of playing football properly in a team. He needs to just ignore all that fuss and the media, just focus on the football. The rest will come naturally.
I just wonder what Southgates philosophy is, I watched that game and it felt so negative, especially the 2nd half. A shudder went through me thinking he could be our next manager if ETH screws up.
Ps. Thought Rice was superb though, soaked up and disrupted so much play.
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England did some high end foul drawing in that second half, probably the most eye catching thing about their performance.
For as bad as they were on the ball it was a decent defensive performance against some good technical players.
For as bad as they were on the ball it was a decent defensive performance against some good technical players.
England are solid but created nothing. It’s weird to have Bellingham, Kane , Saka and Foden and to be so poor.
I don't fancy this England team much. The midfield doesn't function well and it's crying out for Mainoo. The problem is Mainoo and Bellingham play in the same positions and moving either of them has a cost. But playing TAA and Foden out of position seems even pricier. Not bringing a left winger is looking like a mistake.
If Shaw was fit id kind of feel like this tactic would work with Foden drifting in from Left Wing to support Kane, as Shaw offers so much width down that flank. But Trippier at left back is just not the answer.
The problem is the coaching: it is too conservative. You will probably lose in the knockout rounds against Portugal/Spain/Germany/France and rue you didn’t give it a go.
sackSouthgatenow
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Like us then?
Who is us, Ajax? MU?
Bellingham was class. He’s already the heartbeat of the team at 20. The desire to get to that ball and scored the header was great. Foden is just wasted out in the left wing. What was he even doing there?
Dutch NT. Koeman the Dutch Southgate.
Probably the Dutch national team
It's not our fault, we have to tick a box when we apply for a passport that says you must never say anything nice about any English national sporting achievement.
The Bellingham criticism on here bewilders me though, he's an incredible footballer. And that's not just the Paddies, which is even weirder.
What the hell do you base that on? We are playing entertaining attacking football.
It started ages ago on here, weirdos.
You disagree Koeman is a conservative, low risk manager that is not getting the most out of the players and the team's possible potential?
Yes, he is somewhere in the middle. We attack pretty fast and create plenty.
We had 21 shots while Southgate had 5.
Koeman is 10x the manager Southgate is.
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