I think even if Kane had scored penalty we would still have lost.
Day 19: Morocco vs Portugal | England vs France (QF 3&4)
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Looks like Kane didn't realise England are out... He thinks there's a second leg
I was talking in relation to his point, Modric can dribble pass and shoot well, he has it all technically.
Upe was Silvestre at his comedy worst tonight, the occasion was too big for him, and Hernandez being erratic as well may in part be explained by the guys closest to him being a bomb scare.
Apart from Mbappe tearing apart their RB, Giroud's going to do a Weghorst tribute act vs Argentina in the final 
For me , deschamps took a risk and went with a far more attacking lineup despite multiple injuiries to his star players (benzema, pogba, kante etc.). He put Griezman in midfield along with the usual trident of dembele, mbappe and giroud.
In the end he was rewarded with a griezman to giroud combo that fecking done us.
For us, we went with henderson, rice and bellingham. Henderson and rice were bang average/below average and contributed feck all going forwards. Neither did they prevent the french from scoring.
There were also spells of the game where Griezman playing in midfield ran rings around us, and as aforementioned, assisted the matchwinner.
That was the difference for me.
Yeah, it's fair to say England played better for a lot of the game, though I think France were the better team up until they scored the first and then just went into pure 'give it to Mbappe and counter' mode, which never really created much in the end.
Leaving Rashford on the bench but using Sterling was insane. It was like he had the team working to find a goal for Kane, as nobody else was scoring. Giving Rashford 5 minutes was a disgrace!
The arrogaance
It’s also he’s a better manager. Deschamps was winning so his changes were not as pressing as Southgate’s. Talent wise it was about even.
Harry Kane one on one, Jude Belingham volley, Saka having the ball taken off his toe at the last second to prevent a tap in, Harry Kane deflected shot saved by Lloris, Saka going past 3 defenders ending with a weak finish rolled straight to Lloris. You think Lloris was man of the match for no reason? GTFOH
Kane really isn't that good to be so heavily involved in the build up play. He reminds me of Shearer post-Venables England when he'd walk around everywhere and end up on the left touchline more often than in the box
Fair play all round really. When you get given two penalties and don’t get extra time that’s on England. We didn’t create enough. Still think Southgate is not reactive enough and his record is boosted by the expansion of the major tournament, so you play dross until the QF stage.
Exactly. What the commentator's weren't understanding was that he essentially had to hold up their entire left side on his own. In most games, Rabiot can drift left to cover, but Henderson bombing as much as he was doing forced Rabiot to stay infield more. Mbappe doesn't press. Add that to the horrific performance from Upemacano and you have a solitary french defender having to deal with Saka, Walker and Kane; three top tier players.
They aren't miracles. It's a viable gameplan being well executed over and over again... for bloody ages. Just look at their record. They've lost 3-4 games in three years. They looked good in 2018 but narrowly lost 1-0 twice and drew 2-2 with Spain. They've gone on and built on that.
If Saiss is out that's a big loss. The other fellow who got red carded was pretty brainless though.
England has a lot of talented young players, they can win it next time.
It was because Mbappe never helps defensively. His side (left) is badly exposed and England exploited that very well. Saka, in particular.
Thank god that’s all over now!
Half the Moroccan lads will be playing in casts unless they've got some seriously good medics on staff.
Yes. He had to deal with some shots for once.
But yeah, I'm just messing. England weren't enough of a threat, though France didn't have the game in their pocket. They were reasonably shit too and seriously need to up their game.
The semi final matches are trash this year! This competitions been a joke.
At 60th minute we should've gone:
Kane
Rashford - Grealish - Saka
Rice - Bellingham
That team kills the game off. Instead we were pretty much relying on Kane and Saka to solely do everything. As always Southgate's conservatism kills him. We had control of the game, bring on the creators to finish it off. Going toe to toe doesn't matter at all when you lose. We have enough talent for once to actually kill teams off. Does anyone think Pep or SAF don't make the attacking chances?
Instead Sterling and Mount on the 80th minute. Just sad.
Simple fact is that every time England come up against decent opponents in a tournament stage when it really matters, they shit the bed…every single time, whether that’s on the players or the manager I’m hoping that waistcoat gets a 12yr contract with the option of a further 8 years.
One chance, numerous hopeful shots from range and one offside. If you want to call them chances, knock yourself out. England were shite.
Are you always such an aggressive little man when England lose?
In here and on ITV you would think England played well and only lost because of ref.
Keano only one calling them out.
You got 2 pens( both deserved) and still lost . Stats Im sure would prove that doesnt happen too often.
Southgate bottled it tactically for the 3rd tourney in a row when up against quality.
England were clearly tiring 10 minutes before the goal and he didnt make any subs. Deer in the headlights again.
France were decent but thats it.
Keano only one calling them out.
You got 2 pens( both deserved) and still lost . Stats Im sure would prove that doesnt happen too often.
Southgate bottled it tactically for the 3rd tourney in a row when up against quality.
England were clearly tiring 10 minutes before the goal and he didnt make any subs. Deer in the headlights again.
France were decent but thats it.
England's draw for the last three tournaments has basically ended up being "beat one decent team and you're in the final". They've started talking like it's their god-given right at this point.
Apart from Mbappe tearing apart their RB, Giroud's going to do a Weghorst tribute act vs Argentina in the final
It'll be Croatia in the final. I can feel it in my water.
I did say "miracles". I was joking
Is this Peter crouch's sister?
No he wasn't. It was 1-1 for a long time in the second half. That's not winning. And when it was that, England were clearly on top playing wise. Dechampes didn't make any subs, and it worked out for him. Southgate didn't either, and it didn't work out for him. It could just as well have been the other way around. He got saved by having the better talent on the pitch, simple as.
This woman pundit is absolutely fecking clueless
Refs don't score goals and he gave you two pens. Face it, you weren't up to the task. Period.
Hypothetical but if we had a more progressive and positive manager, would we have done better (and possibly win this match) with a selection of Rashford, Kane and Saka up top with Foden, Bellingham and Rice behind?
I think we would have been far more of a threat.
I think we would have been far more of a threat.
France vs Croatia 2: Electric Boogaloo would actually be fairly interesting as well, as much as I can't be arsed with Croatia's approach to a lot of these games.
Perhaps that was not worded properly. What I mean is that another manager would have got more out of all the talent we have. Was not praising Deschamps.
starting xi was fine. what he missed was bringing on rashford soon after the 1-1.