Somebody was around, the guy that ended up with studs flying into his shin.
It is nothing to do with intent or player knowledge. It became a challenge when it became a challenge, it didn't need any awareness on behalf of the defender.
Day 17: England vs Germany | Sweden vs Ukraine (Ro16 7&8)
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It is nothing to do with intent or player knowledge. It became a challenge when it became a challenge, it didn't need any awareness on behalf of the defender.
One thing I’ve learnt is that Lindelof will take the blame for pretty much every goal we concede. He’s a good player and deserves far more respect.
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Sorry, I was taking the piss as it seems your favourite line and I find it funny
I used to play in goal, but I don't begrudge outfield players commenting on goalkeeping performances.
Are you a CB though
When did this become a thing? You are put at near post to clear balls that may go for the forward playing between you and your partner. You clear it out and take a corner rather than take that chance, quite regularly.
Even if you were correct, Lindelof looks over his shoulder and knows there's a man behind him and that's why he makes the run that eventually keeps the goalscorer offside. The only explanation I have is that he was switched off and tired mentally and couldn't make the jump. Every defender worth his salt would be at least trying to get something on that ball to deflect it over the bar or out of play, especially once they know there's a big CF on their shoulder.
Forgot him, probably because he's a bench player anyway.
Have you ever played at CB though?
Well, I’ve played every position plus coach plus manager and keeper and kitman, cons man, nets man. What level are we talking though.
You've got me there.The media are fecking shameless.
I'm here listening to them say "Raheem Sterling, from fans fall guy to Englands hero", as if the fans are coming up with all the Sterling criticism on their own. The media have been on his back more than any fans.
I'm here listening to them say "Raheem Sterling, from fans fall guy to Englands hero", as if the fans are coming up with all the Sterling criticism on their own. The media have been on his back more than any fans.
Well I couldn’t claim to know much about that. I do know for a fact that you can’t deal with everything as a CB and you have to rely on your partner. Lindelof didn’t do much wrong when the ball was so perfect. His partner needed to pick up the man and he didn’t. Frankly it’s a good gol and you sometimes have to accept that.
It became a challenge when it became a challenge?
Hmm
And the studs didn't fly into his shin
The Ukraine guy ran into the foot that had just cleared the ball
It wasn't a tackle or the Sweden guy challenging for the ball, he had already won it and cleared it.
The Ukraine players momentum took him into the Swedish guy making it a challenge
Is this "have you ever played X position" going to be a new Caf meme?
F..ck off Ukraine! Lucky bastards that shouldn’t even have qualified for the play offs. Hope that England beat the hell out of them in the QF.
There’s an abnormally high concentration of Lindelof fans that seemed to have joined us after he signed for us
It’s over his head what do you want him to do. Yes you play the ball. Then you play the man. It’s over his head though, which means it’s on his partner.
Yes because this forum is really pro Lindelof
Just a normal level. Semi professional and down. Less and less that relates to the professional game though.
Jump?
Try and head the ball and not watch?
I agree with that. That’s why it makes the have you ever played line even more stupid
Lindelof fans ? The guy is slaughtered here for every goal United concede even if it has nothing to do with him. If De Gea walked with the ball in his own net, some on the Caf will say Lindelof told him to do so.
Atleast in sweden and norway there are alot of united supporters.
Yes because this forum is really pro Lindelof
Did I say that? I said there’s an abnormally high amount of people who defend him. It’s strange, for a player who is little more than an average CB. It’s just more than you would expect.
Sir Alf Southgate, Sir Geoff Kane and Sir Bobby Sterling.
You get lost on the way to the park.
Seriously. All threads related to him are full of his critics, running to post their criticism, many times completely unrealistic. The people who defend him are just like 7 or 8 maybe. Out of which only 1 or 2 posters defend him passionately.
Be closer to the man who he knows is making a run behind him for a cross that comes in from his side. There was no feinting, no swerve in the run, nothing. He should have been closer, and he should have gotten something on the cross. Or at least tried to, instead of ball watching.
There is no way any CB next to Lindelof is cutting onto the other side of his fresh runner after 120 minutes of football in order to clear the ball.
I understand Lindelof has had a good tournament overall, but you gotta call a spade a spade. That moment cost them the game.
It's not abnormally high, they're just very vocal minority. Lindelovers I believe @Ekeke Christened them.
Is this "have you ever played X position" going to be a new Caf meme?
I mean, it is pretty common to see people on here criticize a player for all the wrong reasons and with all kind of weird expectations of that player, making it absolutely clear that they haven’t played the game.
So why was the red card from Balbuena overturned after his tackle against Chilwell?
Played the ball first and in the follow trough he made a pretty bad tackle against Chilwell.
So if it's against the shin it's not a red card, but if you will hit the knee it's a red?
Both tackles can end a season or even a career.
Played the ball first and in the follow trough he made a pretty bad tackle against Chilwell.
So if it's against the shin it's not a red card, but if you will hit the knee it's a red?
Both tackles can end a season or even a career.
It’s too high for a jump. It’s a class delivery. Well beyond the front post.
well he’s a decent cb who is given no credit. He’s better than stones for example who gets far more plaudits
Is that what you mean? I did wonder
Yep, the point is the ref cares that two players were engaged in a challenge (which they may define a little more widely than you appear to) and one of them conducted himself dangerously. People can try to analyse the minutiae and find justification but that is how the rule is, there are only really two parts for the ref to analyse.
It says nothing about who gets there first, who has momentum, who sees who - all irrelevancies, you can distract yourself with them but it is redundant in terms of the rules. Of course you can have an opinion on what they should be, but it doesn't mean the ref erred in applying them on the night.
The refs seem to define dangerous play as lunging, high, studs up, we have seen this time and time, I'm not sure if this is fully outlined but tonight would support the notion. As a player once your body action falls within what the refs seem to interpret as dangerous then all you need to throw in is a challenge and you are on your way.
Sure, doesn’t make the pint less accurate. The professional game has got worse not better.
Because it doesnt feature how late in the ukranian was.
That's why I play every other week.