I'm torn between wanting to see the United lads do well and get through, but also wanting to see Gareth Softcock punished for his cowardice.
Day 17: England vs Germany | Sweden vs Ukraine (Ro16 7&8)
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England's line up reminds me of United's vs RB Leipzig (shudder)
5 DF and 2 DM at home, what the hell
Horrible. You cannot just play the same formation as the Germans. It is Rice and Philips against Goretzka and Kroos.
Stop weakening the attack so much. No attacking midfielder despite having Grealish, Mount, and Foden who can play the role.
Germany are playing a formation that suit them, whilst England are not.
Stop weakening the attack so much. No attacking midfielder despite having Grealish, Mount, and Foden who can play the role.
Germany are playing a formation that suit them, whilst England are not.
We played this system quite a lot when southgate first became England manager...
feck off already Southgate you moron.
Germany has looked dodgy as feck in defense and we have the best set of attackers in the tournament. So what does Southgate do? He plays 3 attackers. Of those 3 attackers, one has only scored 6 goals in his entire club career. That's 1 less than the amount of defenders Southgate has selected.
It's pathetic.
It's pathetic.
That lineup my god. Where 's Grealish Gareth?
3 in the back? Feck off and feck your coat.
No point to even mention Sancho.
3 in the back? Feck off and feck your coat.
No point to even mention Sancho.
Grealish not starting ….hope you know what you’re doing Southgate
I know you everyone thinks that the selection is awful and cowardly but I think that playing shit on a stick football might be the way to navigate the knockouts.
Why are we starting with a back 5 and 2 holding midfielders FFS?
Technically that was more a 3-5-2 (Lingard and Alli as CM/AM's) .. but yeh similar-ish
Tough to see where the creativity will come from, a lot on Saka's shoulders to create
That is a horrible line up. 8 defensive players ffs 
Werner didn't score a boat load but he was always involved, creating space and chances for others.
At least Southgate changes his formation - sth a manager should do. Look at Löw, despite playing bad most of the time he always plays the same system. That is far worse.
England not playing into GErman hands like Portugal is the right move.
England not playing into GErman hands like Portugal is the right move.
That would have been my choice as well, Saka as the right wing back and I would have gone with Foden.
Im ok with cautious but a back 5 with 2 defensive holding players is ...
Shaw.
Dressing room quote from Joachim Löw:
"Lads, it's England"
"Lads, it's England"
I think Saka being included is a defensive aspect as from what I understand he does track back and can double with the wingback. Saka deserves to start irrespective but this is perhaps one of the most negative, conservative lineups I've seen for a while. Only out and out attacking minded players in the England team is Kane / Sterling.
Southgate has shown to be a bang average manager, can't find balance in a line up so goes fully conservative. This is the most attacking England team I've witnessed and look at the line up. Absolutely laughable.
Starting Saka in an extremely high-stakes knockout game? Rice and Philips, again?
What the feck Southgate...
What the feck Southgate...
We lose this, it’s on Southgate
Why is gnabry not playing?
Who's feeding Kane some proper passes? Only Saka and Sterling?
I was talking about the england lineup, sorry for the confusion.
As for germany: This team has been less than the sum of its part for years, I don't expect that to change. At least we're not playing the dreadful Kroos-Gündogan pairing.
When you play at home you have certain responsibilty to produce exciting football. Especially when you have the talent.
No doubt we will be drowning our sorrows in a couple of hours time , love these games with the Germans though . We`ll probably see Klinsman singing Its coming home to linekar later . Come on England.
7 defenders and 3 ineffective attackers.
fecking clown just wants to bore his Way to a dross 1-0.
fecking clown just wants to bore his Way to a dross 1-0.
southgate is worried about Germany wing backs, this is why he gone 352, expect battle between Kimmich-shaw and Goesens-Trippier throughout the game. btw I'd chuck Kane out for Grealish.
I'm happy with Saka. A nice surprise in the lineup. The rest is as bad as it reasonably could be.
Managers aren't allowed to take penalties.
"You love to see it"
Because we can't do anything against lineups like this while any crap team can score on the counter us.
yes it was more of a 3412....at times that is how Belgium set up with KDB "dropping" into the hole so we shall see if that is what Kane is expected to do
England must be very happy with Germanys line up... Werner 
Shaw & Trippier?
Why have we given this guy a new contract? FFs
So if England win, you will be disappointed will you.
Very little creativity in that England side. Kane will have to drop deep.