And it's not just football. Look at basketball, handball, volleyball, cycling, skiing, skijumping, athletics and I could go on and on...
Day 12 | England v Slovenia + Denmark v Serbia | France v Poland + Netherlands v Austria
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Maybe. Maybe there has a been a different but valid reason for it happening over and over again, generation after generation.
Who knows. But it's mad that it keeps happening with such good players. Even when it was loads of United players from a dominant club side, the England thing was tricky.
Yes, congratulations on being brilliant at everything Slovenia!
Yes, there has generally been better teams around and we play dour boring football for the majority of that time, especially in tournaments.
The only decent ones I can remember where the wc 2018 & euro 96 where iirc we played fast attacking football.
Flashscores gave Mainoo a 6.8 rating but palmer a 7.1? He literally got the lowest rating on the whole team.
Serbia out. Love to see it.
Yup.
Wait, the XI that started shouldn't have a single player over 6.0
Baggio was exceptional until that moment. He single handedly took Italy to the final in that tournament. So, it's no surprise they were more forgiving towards him.
Most likely fixture IMO:
Spain - Random team from group E
Germany - Denmark
Portugal - Hungary
France - RTFGE
RTFGE - Slovenia
Austria - Turkey
Switzerland - Italy
England - Netherlands
Spain - Random team from group E
Germany - Denmark
Portugal - Hungary
France - RTFGE
RTFGE - Slovenia
Austria - Turkey
Switzerland - Italy
England - Netherlands
I think 6.8 was probably a fair score for Mainoo, I’m just completely mindblown that everybody else got more.
Yeah other teams do get in the way I suppose.
Anyway it's a good problem to have. Ireland are utterly shite just now.
Why? Zero wins, two goals and copious amounts of diving, feigning injury and timewasting. Tiny country or not, they're wank.
Mainoo changed the game when he came on.
Stunningly bad Trippier got motm with a 7.8 and all the front 4 got over 7. Worst player ratings ever.
Haha it’s only a game right.
Because the 3 bigger countries all did the same vs them for the most part, bar the timewasting.
Mainoo is an excellent young player & played well but he didn't change the game. Slovenia decided to sit deeper and play for a draw the second half as that's what they needed to qualify.
Interesting. Basically it's England-Holland if Portugal don't lose to Georgia and Turkey don't lose to Czechs.
The Dutch were awful defensively today but I don't think England have enough zip and pace in the game to test them like Austria did so that would be a real 50/50 game imo as Memphis and Gakpo would get chances on the break.
Feels made for a Weghorst winner tbh.
Gareth Southgate. The Grey Man.
It's like when Moyes got the United gig and shat himself trying to play down expectations at every turn.
His players go out their instilled with his self-doubt and hesitancy.
It's like when Moyes got the United gig and shat himself trying to play down expectations at every turn.
His players go out their instilled with his self-doubt and hesitancy.
That’s incredible.
Southgate has zero conviction. Doesn't even believe himself.
England were looking very dangerous when Mainoo and Palmer came on. Thought they would score.
Ange talking too much sense regarding the kids . You don't hold them back .
Fek Southgate looks so out of his depth in this interview.
Yep!
You will win one soon though. The world hates me so you almost definitely will win one.
Exactly. It's all so dour and anxious.
Looked annd sounded incredibly nervous.
Football peaked in 98 and WC in France... After that all is meh.
Incredible
Felt that Kane probably should have slipped Mainoo in at the end rather than going wide.
Sure thing, it's still a favourable side of the fixture key while all the other likely suspects have at least one very risky game before the final.
I suppose people aren't going on what they see on the pitch but what could be. You simply can't keep being so shite with that squad, it's baffling.
If Belgium wins group E, France will play one of the following: Slovakia, Romania and Ukraine.
How stupid is that? If anything, it should reward the lower ranked team for matching their performance.
Mainoo and Palmer should start next game - seemed like they had a good understanding between them. Our problems are Bellingham & Kane but Southgate won’t drop either of them.
Insane how Germany, France, Spain and Portugal (and Denmark) (and potentially Belgium) is in the same ladder.
England get an conparably easy road to the final
England get an conparably easy road to the final
England have never actually been a footballing nation capable of continually pumping out quality players. They're always going to be prone to a duff generation.
2008 to 2016 they were actually just quite shit. The squad was full of mediocre players.
The previous golden generation was simply too preoccupied with club-rivalry while also being shoehorned into a system that didn't suit them.
I'm not really old enough to remember much before that, but as has been pointed out elsewhere, there's also just an overrating of some of the players from the past.