There kind of is, but it’s probably nowhere near as prevalent as it used to be. There’s probably also the fact that kids stay a lot indoors on their smartphones or iPads now, because of how ubiquitous that technology is; that’s pretty much a worldwide thing. I’m generation Z, so in the generation before the kids all being born right now, but the best way to tackle it would probably be some sort of incentives. Like, schools need to put more football into PE lessons. The fact that schools in central Scotland don’t have anywhere near as much football as they should is rather silly.
Day 10 | Scotland v Hungary | Switzerland v Germany
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*Points at the scoreboard*
You beat us once and you needed penalties against parolo, giaccherini, pellé and eder
Just saying
If the game finished 0-0 would Scotland have qualified?
Unlikely but not impossible.
We might have had a slim chance of going through as one of the best third placed teams.
I’m not convinced it’s a stonewall penalty either. The defender hasn’t even done anything other than chase back and Armstrong has initiated contact by crossing in front of him despite the ball moving the other side. There is a strong knee in the back of the leg because of that so I can see an argument for both sides but it certainly isn’t clear cut for me.
He didn't initiate contact if you watch it back.
He's allowed to move his body to protect the ball. It's up to the other guy not to collide with him.
He jumps over to that side and after he lands the defender makes contact with his knee to the back of his leg.
If it was reviewed I think a pen would have been given but obviously we can't know that. What's strange is that it wasn't reviewed.
He can move any way he wants if he’s in control of the ball (which he is). Then he is taken out from behind.
That is a dreadful take and obviously you are not familiar with the actual rules.
Possible but doubtful. Two points are very little to be one of the best four third-placed teams. We will only know for sure when all group matches have been played.
Apologies in advance.
Agree entirely; and I was disappointed at the time that it wasn't given. He went out of his way to initiate the contact and at one point was dragging the Hungarian player down. I cannot see how that was stonewall.
Scotland goes home... No truther word had spoken.
Would have needed all 4 of the Croatia, Albania, Czechia and Georgia to lose.
Yes. That's What it took for you to get one win over us. ZazaChecking it like this?
Meannwhile, the last time we played each other in Doortmund we took your souls
I'm sorry, but you need to try to qualify for two tournaments in a row, before you can play the "... well 18 years ago... " card.
Big talk from someone who was last seen eliminated by Japan...we won the Euros 3 years ago, when's the last time you were relevant for anything but banter?
It's been 10 years of hurt, but they never stopped me dreaming.
Northern England the first sent home. At least they did not have the sweat it out waiting to see if best 3rd place finish.
It's just an ongoing spiral unfortunately. Football is still seen as the "poor" sport, and poor folk are pretty much fecked over in Scotland. On the flip side it's easy to just sit on your arse and do nothing with your life but sponge off society. Kids leave school and if they aren't going to uni then there's nothing - colleges are woefully underfunded and seen as an afterthought by our government, and since uni places are unofficially limited for Scottish students (because international students means more funding) large swathes of the population are having their hands tied behind their backs. If they could even be arsed trying, which again is another problem altogether.
Basically, if you're a kid then what's the point in even trying? There's hardly any incentive nowadays for them for anything let alone just a career in sports. We were a nation of innovation and industry up until the 70s and since then we've just been crumbling in a lot of different geographical areas. Hell, the place I'm currently living in was a major drydock on the east coast not too many years ago, and now it's the place where councils send their worst and most disruptive families. It's crowning achievements nowadays are that they recently opened a railway line with limited service and a McDonald's opened a couple of years ago.
I've got a mate who moved over here from Germany (because he found a Scottish girl with all of her teeth still intact) and he was amazed at how crazy the work ethic here was. And he wasn't the boring German stereotype of "Ve Must Vork at Maximum Efficiency Ja". He was awesome. Him and his German mate, who came over to Scotland well for ginger clunge reasons, would come to mine in my old town and we would have nights drinking tonnes of whisky and German beer (a lethal combo), have the absolute time of our lives, but still prepare for a week of work at the end of it. And I'm now typing this whilst my new Scottish neighbour continues his five days bender in preparation for a week of doing feck all. It's a crazy mindset. A lack of personal responsibility because "We're Scottish, nothing goes our way anyway so why bother?"
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Not necessarily. Albania and Croatia are both on 1 point and unlikely to win. Czech and Georgia both on 1 point, unlikely to win (Czech at least 50/50 with turkey there).
Denmark (2 pts) playing Serbia (1 point), Slovenia (2 pts) playing England. England wins that and 3rd place has 2 points guaranteed there. You're gonna have 3 groups where they'll have 1 or 2 points as a 3rd place finish and no more.
Pretty much for sure it will be. There will be 3 groups whose 3rd placed sides are likely to have 1 or 2 points.
Yeah someone might go through with 2p, but Scotland would have had the worst gd at -4
Yeah their hope would've been that Albania loses to Spain, Croatia loses to Italy, Czech loses to turkey and Georgia loses to Portugal. Not unlikely necessarily, but also rough with the GD
Wherever you mean by that, Poland was the first one to be sent home
If teams are going through with 2 points then you know it’s a broken format.
Scotland need a manager that has a pulse.
Crap game but Scotland denied the most blatant penalty seen at this tournament.
One burning question after tonight’s football. Is Callum Styles any relation to Nobbie?
Maybe it's the English/Lancs scum dregs in me but that Hungary goal was also dodgy. There was a head collision in the Hungary box before they broke on the counter, and it didn't even get a mention from the commentators. English pundits would be wanking each other over either injustice, but we just accept it as standard.
I'm still reeling from the penalty against Italy years ago that where some pizza eating dickhead body checked our guy and somehow we got penalised for it, and then we lost a place in the world cup FFS. And nobody batted an eye. Where's the fight? The Hampden Roar travelled to Germany and it was the only fight that I really saw from the team during this tournament.
Yes, some decent players there. Looks a bit undercooked
Varga thankfully is stable. Suffered a fractured cheek bone and will undergo an operation, according to Hungary manager Marco Rossi.
And I’m quite sure he’s not
You are from Sweden?Honest question if you're Scotting. Do the kids over there enjoy passing the ball at all or does everyone just look to put it in the mixer and get physical?
I am not, but I lived here for a very long time.
A tournament that needs 36 games to eliminate eight teams is bound to have some utter dross in it. Expansion of the World Cup is perhaps a necessity but a 16-team Euros format was truly pinnacle of international football, so much so that I generally preferred it to World Cups.
Yeah its a bit stupid really when it works out like that.
It's difficult to be in control of the ball when you are jumping in the opposite direction of it hoping to bump into the defender and buy a penalty. If he had anything about him he'd have took the shot on, but instead he tried the easy way out.
Absolute stonewall penalty. Scandalous decision.
And this bollocks that "Armstrong initiated contact". Forwards are told to get their bodies between the ball and the defender. If the defender is too clumsy to avoid clattering into the forward, he deserves to be penalised. Everyone knows this.
And this bollocks that "Armstrong initiated contact". Forwards are told to get their bodies between the ball and the defender. If the defender is too clumsy to avoid clattering into the forward, he deserves to be penalised. Everyone knows this.