I haven't watched much of the reserves, so could anyone tell me how good has Petrucci been actually? Also, what to expect?
Davide Petrucci
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He's been excellent, for me it's between him, Lingard and the Keane twins for Reserve POTY. Hard to say what to expect, he's had a really long layoff prior to this season with a hip problem. He's got excellent feet and an eye for a pass, he also has a more than capable engine and isn't afraid to put his foot in. The most important thing for him right now is just to keep playing week in, week out.
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I remember the hip problem. But now that you've seen him after the lay-off, does he seem worse off, same or better off than before? Expectations in the sense, what would you, you being someone who has watched him regularly dictate as his course of action?
I is sorry for bombarding you with so many questions but I'm curious.
Seems fine, it's hard to say how the injury has affected him because he grew a fair bit in that time, however it doesn't seem to have had a negative effect on him as a player at all. My action for him depends on Pogba's actions somewhat, best idea is to get him on loan somewhere and playing competitive Football week in, week out. Got an excellent passing range, needs Football to make up for the time he's missed through injury though. I won't elaborate on my expectations for him just yet after what happened with RavelCheers.
I remember the hip problem. But now that you've seen him after the lay-off, does he seem worse off, same or better off than before? Expectations in the sense, what would you, you being someone who has watched him regularly dictate as his course of action?
I is sorry for bombarding you with so many questions but I'm curious.
.The thing that has impressed me most is the way he has adapted to a deeper lying role in midfield, rather than the more advanced role he had previously. He definitely has talent, and it is a shame he was basically injured for 2 years, as I reckon he would have been on the fringes of the first team at least. A Championship loan would be great for him, and we would see how he can do in a highly competitive league.Seems fine, it's hard to say how the injury has affected him because he grew a fair bit in that time, however it doesn't seem to have had a negative effect on him as a player at all. My action for him depends on Pogba's actions somewhat, best idea is to get him on loan somewhere and playing competitive Football week in, week out. Got an excellent passing range, needs Football to make up for the time he's missed through injury though. I won't elaborate on my expectations for him just yet after what happened with Ravel
Rumors on twitter that he has agreed new terms, I think they originated from Mirror Football so I have no idea how reliable this actually is...
very good to hear he loves playing for us.
and from what some on here think of him after seeing him...I am very hopeful.
I hope we get to see a number of our youth/reserve lads make the jump to the first team squad.
and from what some on here think of him after seeing him...I am very hopeful.
I hope we get to see a number of our youth/reserve lads make the jump to the first team squad.
Fantastic news.
if true then screw you "he who shall not be named", we've got another young hope.
michael carricks long term replacement. very similar players. in some respect the role carrick plays for us and how we are moulding petrucci restricts both players ability to score/create goals
I don't think he's similar to Carrick at all, nor do I think the role he's playing for our reserves restricts his ability to score goals. He spends a lot of time in and around the box in every game he plays.
Wouldnt mind putting him on the bench and give him 10 mins when we are 3-0 up instead of Pogba
Just saw this article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/duncan_castles/04/19/petrucci/index.html
Just read his latest interview.
Honestly that doesn't feel like anyone who wants to leave us.
I just find it funny that there are two different stories out about this
He's 20 already? Flop.
That article is probably speculative, but it wouldn't be surprising if it were true.
He's been careful to say all the right things, but it must be frustrating for Petrucci to see a younger player, his inferior in the reserves, given opportunities, while he's been ignored. If United want to hold on to it's talented foreign youth, it can't assume they'll wait patiently for their chance as English and Irish kids have traditionally done.
So far our 'gather the best young talent from around the world' policy has produced one first teamer - Rafael.
If we can't keep them there's not much profit in recruiting them (we may make a few shillings, I suppose).
That news report is a bit shite to say the least. 'Considers Old Trafford exit' but then just goes on to speculate that a few other clubs are interested in him, with no quotes from anyone except one from some Roma gimp from 4 years ago.
I'd rather go by what i've seen and heard from the player himself anytime i've seen him interviewed on MUTV. He comes across fantastically well. Really down to earth, modest and grateful. Absolutely in love with the club as far as i can see. He's staying, i'd bet my bollocks on it.
I'd rather go by what i've seen and heard from the player himself anytime i've seen him interviewed on MUTV. He comes across fantastically well. Really down to earth, modest and grateful. Absolutely in love with the club as far as i can see. He's staying, i'd bet my bollocks on it.
He's only finding his feet after being out injured for the last 2 years. He's just grateful to be playing football of any kind. I'm sure he's delighted at how many games he's played this season injury free for the reserves and next season he'll be looking to build on that, maybe on loan. He's certainly not been ignored by the club. He's been reserve team captain, and has made the bench and travelled with the squad for a few premier league games. Theres no reason for him to be frustrated/impatient at this moment in time.
If he's hoping for a first team opportunity, he's hardly going to say the place is a shithole, is he?
Players change clubs all the time when a better opportunity arises. Why do fans think we should be exempt?
He's twenty years old and was already on the path to first team football when he was at Roma 4 years ago. I doubt very much that he's thinking 'I must wait till I'm 22 because of the couple of years I missed with injury.'
He looks 'hungry' for the reserves, and is clearly impatient to make up for lost time and progress his career.
Interesting bit of mind-reading there. Plucked out your arse but there you go.
He always seems like a level-headed lad. Doubt he'll be knocking on Fergie's door demanding first-team football until he's got another year or two of football under his belt. The kid doesn't need to a born and bred Mancunian to appreciate what an amazing opportunity it is to potentially play for Manchester United.
He always seems like a level-headed lad. Doubt he'll be knocking on Fergie's door demanding first-team football until he's got another year or two of football under his belt. The kid doesn't need to a born and bred Mancunian to appreciate what an amazing opportunity it is to potentially play for Manchester United.
its quite strange to have the rumours about guys like Morrison (i know his case was more related to off field behaviour), Petrucci, Fryers and Pogba circulating this season like they did....
this never seemed to happen in the past with the twins, rossi, pique etc.... they all came young and signed contracts
are we witnessing a change in player power? is it all press speculation?? has there been a change in the club in terms of signing young players to contracts??
this never seemed to happen in the past with the twins, rossi, pique etc.... they all came young and signed contracts
are we witnessing a change in player power? is it all press speculation?? has there been a change in the club in terms of signing young players to contracts??
There's a reason why he's reserve team captain.
Yeah but theres not one thing to suggest he wants to leave except an article that says a few clubs might be after him. No quotes, feck all. So why should i think he's lieing in his interviews and take this report as gospel?
He was probably on the path to first team football here also before injury struck a couple of years ago, but the circumstances have changed. He's currently playing catchup but the signs so far are positive. From what we've heard he's just delighted to be playing regularly and on the fringes of the first team so soon after returning from so long out. Next season he'll be looking to push on and in 12 months time if he's no further on maybe then he'll be looking to move.
It's based on knowledge of human nature, common sense, and observation. This is a player who came to United with large expectations, and I don't think he'll be happy to wait till he's 22 for - perhaps - an opportunity to play first team football.
It's very obvious on the pitch that he's a young man in a hurry. For instance, he was never noted for his tackling but since he came back from injury he's been ferocious. He's wants to impress, and wants to do it now.
It seems no amount of bitter experience will convince you that every young players dream isn't to wait patiently in the shadows of OT, until Fergie deigns to bring him into the light.
Of course he's in a hurry, he's been out injured for 2 years missing tonnes of football and watching his mates on the fringes of the first team. Also with his contract running out he had to show the club he's recovered from his injury troubles and that he merited a new one.
Why do you have to be so sceptical. All the signs from the player is he wants to stay, the club no doubt wants him to stay, and theres absolutely no reason to think otherwise unless you want to believe the speculative bullshit article above, and even then all its about is other clubs interested!
What "bitter experience" is this then?
Every young player who's left so far has been someone Fergie was happy to let go.
I'm in a false position here
I'd expect him to give it another year as well.All I'm saying is that if those rumours are true I wouldn't be too surprised. He hasn't been given much encouragement to expect a quick promotion to the first team at United - and first team football is clearly his goal - so if a club in his homeland did offer him more money with the promise of a first team chance, I'd expect him to leave. Why would he stay under those circumstances?
Because by staying he can play for Manchester United. An opportunity he left friends and family to take.
I discussed this historical revisionism in a previous post.
Being a contrary cnut thenI'm in a false position here
All I'm saying is that if those rumours are true I wouldn't be too surprised. He hasn't been given much encouragement to expect a quick promotion to the first team at United - and first team football is clearly his goal - so if a club in his homeland did offer him more money with the promise of a first team chance, I'd expect him to leave. Why would he stay under those circumstances?
Do you seriously think he expects to be any closer to the first team at this moment in time given his situation. I'd say he's surprised how near he is to be honest, being reserve team captain and training/travelling with the squad. I'm sure if you offered him that position 12 months ago he'd have snapped your hand off.
Assuming he didn't leave friends and family for the dosh.
I don't believe at the age of 16 he thought 'I'd prefer to play for an English team than a big club in my own country'
From everything I've heard about him and from him he seems like a very level headed lad who is confident enough in his own ability to believe he can make it at United and is willing to do everything he can to make that happen. For all we know he could have even more of a love for the club due to the way his injury was dealt with, a lot of clubs would have perhaps pushed him to come back before he was ready but from what I've heard United allowed him extra time and support to give him the best chance of a full recovery.
I think it is because they are Man Utd young players. When it is Man Utd, the press will circle them liek a vulture. We don't seem to see paper writing about young players from other clubs with their contracts running down and how big clubs in the PL are looking at them.
Wait why would Petrucci be frustrated about 1st team opportunities. He basically spent 2 years out of football...this is his 1st season back, and thankfully he managed to stay fit and perform well.
But there is no question of him feeling flustered because his inferiors have had an opportunity with the 1st team, and he hasn't. His injury record is to blame for that.
But there is no question of him feeling flustered because his inferiors have had an opportunity with the 1st team, and he hasn't. His injury record is to blame for that.
Petrucci is just glad to be back playing. I'm certain he won't think about lacking a first team chance for at least a year. Don't forget he'd been out for ages
Maybe we have to pay these guys what they are worth.
Lots of clubs are sniffing around because there is lots of talent in the reserves.
Lots of clubs are sniffing around because there is lots of talent in the reserves.
yeah for the reserves he can still get forward alot but he is definatley being groomes into a deep lying playmaker type like carrick is. as you say, he's not restricted in the reserves but if/when he breaks into the first team he will be. Obviousley at first he will get a bit of a free licence, possible in a 3. But long term i think we are definatley grooming him into that role