Villa is a better player than Torres.
David Villa | Monday 'defining day' for Spurs: Villa signs for Atletico Madrid
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Villa is a better player than Torres.
Same class imo.
I think his one of the most funny posters on here. Would be sad without him here and I would for sure dont get on his bad side
Villa would be great for us but he wants to stay in Spain, so it won't happen IMO.
If we can get his mate Silva aswell, it might help
I'd agree with that, Benzema is much younger and would provide us with years of service and if he did leave ala Ronaldo we could demand a good transfer fee for him recouping on some of the money.
Villa is in his prime, as is Eto. Do we want a short term or longterm purchase?
Villa is so much better than Benzema, He is better than Torres. Who cares about getting money when they get old. He is more likely to do a great good in the next 3-4 seasons than Benzema.
We already have 3 strikers in Rooney, Macheda and Weelbeck who will provide us with potential longterm service, what we need for next season is a proven goalscorer....Eto or Villa would be a worthy purchase.
Yes, now he is.
In a couple of years he probably won't be.
Your view on the whole thing is either very simplistic or very short-termist.
I rather take raw and talented before a so called superstar. But probably we will se some raw and talented and one player who is already proven.
As kiddaa said:
We have potential long term, we need someone who is a proven goal scorer, and imo Villa is the best out there.
Wait, so Benzema's not a proven goalscorer?
Let's compare them in the Champions League:
9 goals in 15 games for Benzema.
8 goals in 16 games for Villa.
Also worth noting Valencia are better going forward than Lyon.
The idea that Benzema's not a proven goalscorer is ridiculous. we can get someone with plenty of potential and a proven goalscorer in Benzema, it's not one or the other.
Torres is better than Villa for me, but we won't get him and Villa is a bit old to be spending 45million on. Benzema is the best option - he will be brilliant.
Zzzzz neither Benzema or Villa are coming to England let alone United so what's the point in all of this?
Yeah, let's just only talk about United and Liverpool.
Football outside of England is really dull.
Not that he is not proven, but Villa will score more
Villa goal ratio is 1 goal every 1.99 games
Benzema goal ratio is 1 goal every 2.25 games
For their Country
Villa goal ratio is 1 goal every 0.64 games
Benzema goal ratio is 1 goal every 4 games
Villa is 27 years old, Benzema 21. Both are different kind of players, but both have already proven they are able to score goals. Loads of goals. Benzema has been an established first-team players for two seasons now and has scored 47 goals in two seasons in all competitions for his club.
I'm aware of the fact that Villa is an even better goalscorer (53 for his club in two seasons, and an astonishing 23 for his country in just over two years), but age must be taken into account. Anyway, both would be fantastic additions to our squad and would almost certainly be instant successes.
The age difference is important. I think Villa is a really great player, but because of Benzemas age and that he at current age is a good player, I would pick him. Villa is currently a better player though.
Villa plays in a league that is weaker defensively.
He also plays in a team that is better offensively.
He's also 6/7 years younger, and has improved his finishing in the past two seasons. Chances are he'll continue to do so.
If they were both to stay here for 5 years, I'd bet Benzema would score more.
I actually dont think any of this actually matters. We will be getting someone like hunterlaar anyway.
No, I know it doesn't, chances are we won't get either.
I hope we don't get someone like Huntelaar instead though.
I think its right to prioritise Benzema and that he will go on to be a better player. I have a feeling Aguero will do the same.
But I dont actually believe Aguero or Benzema would be at the club for more than 3 or 4 seasons if we signed them this summer. Which is about how long Villa will be at the top of his game. Obviously in 3 or 4 seasons Villa would have little resale value, whereas in 3 or 4 years even though Benzema and Aguero would most likely move on, we'd be receiving silly money for them with which to replace them.
As Villa would have little resale value, we could perhaps hold onto him longer than Benzema or Aguero - even though he'd be in his 30s and most likely not as good an option as he is now, we could still be rotating him into the side.
So in terms of length of service, I dont believe Benzema or Aguero are a better option. But purely because of their resale value when that time comes, I do think they might be better purchases than a 27 year old. Maybe. But its one to to think about as that 27 year old is at his peak and Benzema and Aguero are not... Most likely in those 3 or 4 seasons Villa will be more effective.
But I dont actually believe Aguero or Benzema would be at the club for more than 3 or 4 seasons if we signed them this summer. Which is about how long Villa will be at the top of his game. Obviously in 3 or 4 seasons Villa would have little resale value, whereas in 3 or 4 years even though Benzema and Aguero would most likely move on, we'd be receiving silly money for them with which to replace them.
As Villa would have little resale value, we could perhaps hold onto him longer than Benzema or Aguero - even though he'd be in his 30s and most likely not as good an option as he is now, we could still be rotating him into the side.
So in terms of length of service, I dont believe Benzema or Aguero are a better option. But purely because of their resale value when that time comes, I do think they might be better purchases than a 27 year old. Maybe. But its one to to think about as that 27 year old is at his peak and Benzema and Aguero are not... Most likely in those 3 or 4 seasons Villa will be more effective.
Not really. Valencia rely on him to do almost everything up front. He obviously needs Mata to provide for him often as well as Villa isnt one of the most something-out-of-nothing players out there. All the other offensive players flatter to deceive and tend to frustrate more than they help him. This is why Villa scored 40% of Valencia's goals but didnt create too many last season. You cant create for team mates if team mates arent in good positions to receive the ball and put it in. A lot of the time he has to play similarly to Ronaldo in the champions league final, taking any oppertunity he has to shoot because he's alone up there and isolated.
I've only seen Lyon in the champions league but when I have seen them, it was no more of a struggle for Benzema to get support from team mates than it has been for Villa.
Ekeke, do you love Villa?
No, but I do have a friend who supports them. So I do find myself watching them from time to time. Ashley Young tends to make it worth it.
I think you might be wrong on this one Ekeke, Benzema has been isolated up front this season like never before.Villa receives a lot more support from his team mates
Well there have been many matches when the only decent passing into Villa has been just past the half way line - expecting him to do the rest. He's just not that kind of player so its no surprise in those matches Villa struggled. In the champions league I've not seen worse from Lyon than those matches even in defeat.
I'm not saying Lyon are better offensively or that Benzema gets better support. I dont know that, I havent really watched them often. But I'd be really, really surprised if Valencia made a better effort of it this season because aside from the first 3 months when Valencia were flying, they were absolutely dreadfully appauling in this aspect of the game.
So if they both struggle equally to get support, then the fact that Valencia just have more creatively adept players should edge it in Valencia's favour.
Benzema lacks support, and when he gets it the quality is very poor.
Villa lacks support, but when he gets it the quality is quite decent.
I'm a mini fan of David Villa, there i said it. The goal he scored against the Russians in the Euros was breathtaking and still vivid in my memory. Simply all through his own work.
Fair enough.
Mata has certainly been a god-send. And Villa just needs the ball in advanced areas around the box to do his stuff and there was definately a 3 month period at the beginning of the season where Valencia were doing that for him very well. Its just that Villa and Mata got tired midway through the season and literally everything went to shit for Valencia at that time until right near the end of the season. Villa continued to score goals, just not as often as he was at the beginning of the season. Mata had a slump where he was scoring and assisting much less than the start of the season. And just about every other offensive player except for Pablo Hernandes was pure shit for the next 3 months or so. Thats how they finished up outside the champions league places.
So it was sort of heaven and hell. In the first section there were no problems. But when it got bad, it was beyond awful and thats the time where I dont believe Benzema could possibly have had a worse contribution from his attacking team mates. Because he'd literally have had to have been dribbling the ball from his own half into the goal to get onto the scoresheet.
Weaker defensively? It is the French League we're talking about here, not the Premiership. I'm being generous in saying it is at best on par defensively with La Liga. Since 2007, in terms of co-efficients, France's league only comes in at 7th in Europe. You can also add that Benzema plays in a team that is far more dominant than Valencia have been over the course of the last few seasons.
It is more difficult to score than in Spain because in general (maybe not so much this season) most teams adopt defensive tactics (lots of 4-5-1 formations).
Meanwhile, it's not David Villa who will probably join Madrid, but Diego Forlan.
Madrid think Valencia want too much for him (oh, irony) and they can't understate Valencia talk also with Barcelona, because they probably agreed their offer earlier.
So, Villa, what are you going to do? Barcelona, Manchester or London?
Madrid think Valencia want too much for him (oh, irony) and they can't understate Valencia talk also with Barcelona, because they probably agreed their offer earlier.
So, Villa, what are you going to do? Barcelona, Manchester or London?
I think the teams in Spain are much more open and try to attack teams, in general.
I think the teams in France are a lot more cautious in their attack and don't go forward as often, in general.
La Liga's a much better league but that's irrelevant to how the teams set up and the styles they play.
Would be great for all parties if Barcelona sign him. Rid the club of Eto'o, get a year's first team experience under big expectation for Caceres and Bojan and get a player who ultimately brings more to the team than the striker you replaced. Valencia would have reinforced their very shaky backline, a striker who will score them a good amount of goals and a lot of cash to improve the squad in general terms and their financial situation.
Its literally win win, but these things dont always happen just because they make the most sense.
Its literally win win, but these things dont always happen just because they make the most sense.
To be fair, Villa is fecking excellent. I think he's a better footballer than Torres personally, even though Torres would be a better fit for our team. If we are going to splash ridiculous money though, I think it would be a better investment signing one of Aguero/Benzema.
I was actually kept awake last night through the idea that we may actually sign Villa
Shame it wont happen
Shame it wont happen
I was actually kept awake last night through the idea that we may actually sign Villa
Shame it wont happen
I'm lost for words
.That is a bit gay-David Villa has made a decision about where he will play club football next season, although the Spain striker isn't saying where yet.
The Valencia striker says he's "made a decision and my representative knows it and so I'm relaxed.''
Villa scored the only goal Wednesday in his team's 1-0 win over Iraq at the Confederations Cup. He had shunned the media since his arrival in South Africa, but he has been linked to Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Chelsea.
Villa's 30th international goal allowed Spain to earn a record tying 14th straight win and spot in the semifinals of the World Cup warm-up tournament.
The Valencia striker says he's "made a decision and my representative knows it and so I'm relaxed.''
Villa scored the only goal Wednesday in his team's 1-0 win over Iraq at the Confederations Cup. He had shunned the media since his arrival in South Africa, but he has been linked to Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Chelsea.
Villa's 30th international goal allowed Spain to earn a record tying 14th straight win and spot in the semifinals of the World Cup warm-up tournament.