Yeah, whatever
David Moyes Unemployed | European Champion
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Yeah, whatever
Sunderland and Sociedad say Hi.
Think he'll keep them up and then they'll part ways. Also they have a shot at Europa Conference league still so it could still be successful season after all.
Sunderland was a sinking ship and it took balls to manage Real Sociedad.
He's a very good manager for mid table teams.
As evidenced by his fantastic performance this season. No idea what people like you see in him.
It's one bad season. Last year they were awesome
6th and 7th in successive seasons. Semi final of EL.
He could do with winning a trophy
I was thinking they'll win the Conference league, but Fiorentina are in excellent form
In the league they were only good at the start, then crashed horribly. I believe it's now 63 points in their last 56 league games. He's had well over a season to sort it out.
So he's done a good job everywhere else, well except for 3 of the other 4 top level clubs he's managed. (plus West Ham 1st time around) 
Yeah he sunk it.
I think you mean he managed to balls it up.
Yeah except when he isn't.
Yeah he sunk it.
I think you mean he managed to balls it up.
Yeah except when he isn't.
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He really could, he's been trying for about a quarter of a century at this stage.
Yeah, every decent guy I know also never ever takes responsibility for his failures/limitations and is always looking to pass the blame on to others.
He only said he needed more time. I disagree.
I don't think he should've been hired in the first place, but I also think the players didn't perform for him.
As bad a season his side is having, they've basically secured PL survival now and could win European trophy as his 1st trophy ever. Wonder if West Ham will keep Moyes if they win Conference League.
Agreed. Solid manager. Better than most.
I blame Fergie for appointing him more than I do for him failing. He didn’t apply for the job. We didn’t interview him. And had he done well and we won a league title and a cup in 3-4 years under him, Fergie would have taken credit.
7/10 manager that’s done a few 9/10 things with the squad at his disposal. Also done a few 3/10 jobs with the squad he had. The biggest criticism you could level at him is that his teams are streaky. Purple patches seem to last 12-18 months. Dire spells are rarely reversed. But that’s true of most managers.
People holding a grudge over his time at United are childish. He wasn’t good enough. He left.
I don’t think anyone has any passionate hate for him, and it wasn’t even the terrible and damaging job he did here that rattled people, it was his continued arrogance years after he had left the club which irked people.
He has his supporters in the media too (and clearly on here). Beating a Bournemouth team desperately short on quality isn’t the time to start to praise him again.
He has spent almost £200 million pounds this season to be on 34 points and only 9 wins is awful. Beating Genk and Bournemouth doesn’t excuse it.
He has his supporters in the media too (and clearly on here). Beating a Bournemouth team desperately short on quality isn’t the time to start to praise him again.
He has spent almost £200 million pounds this season to be on 34 points and only 9 wins is awful. Beating Genk and Bournemouth doesn’t excuse it.
They've been very unlucky this season too.
Over the course of the season they are -10 on xpts and we're they getting what they should would be tenth which is still a slight regression but they've mostly been unlucky/poor in front of goal
There is always some luck in there, but he has spent 200 million on players that don’t really fit what he is trying to do. It was the same scattergun approach we saw at United.
He seems to have real failings when he is given a budget and is required to bring in players that improve his side.
It’s a real issue to have spent that kind of money and somehow made your team worse and less proficient in front of goal.
They've been appalling this season for the squad he has. It's not a bad squad at all, I'd take it over many squads down at the bottom, the fact they looked a candidate for relegation for so long in the season shows how awful it has been.
Maybe the European stuff has taken it out of them, I don't know but it's probably not a great excuse. You have to prepare for that.
Maybe the European stuff has taken it out of them, I don't know but it's probably not a great excuse. You have to prepare for that.
Fergie had squeezed the last drop of that squad and they were all past their peak for Moyes.
Vidic, Rio, Evra, Giggs, Carrick, Rooney, RVP were all on the downslope.
The squad needed a complete replenishment.
The players didn't respect him and he wasn't able to attract players either which doesn't help.
I wonder how he'd do with a Championship club. Lots of big clubs looking for promotion.
It'd be a good challenge for him.
I don’t think for one second that Moyes is responsible for player recruitment at West Ham. What makes you think he is?
I would say that he has a larger say than at a lot of top level clubs. To say that managers don’t have a large say at clubs, even with recruitment setups, is fanciful.
Especially when you consider how much they value him and backed him to stay even if they went down.
This year the signings were horrendous. Kehrer in particular is terrible, Paqueta has been average and they didn't really want Scammaca, they wanted Broja who should've left given that he's now about 10th choice at Chelsea.
But he was made good signings at West Ham that made them good last season - Coufal, Soucek, Bowen etc.
He was very good at signings at Everton. Piss poor at Sunderland. At United didn't really get a chance. Overall I'd say he's better than most but fallable as the manager-centric approach often is in the modern game.
His biggest weakness seems to be when he signs played from the big clubs or players that have some hype about them - e.g. Kehrer, Scammaca and Djoboudi from Chelsea. It's the lesser known players that must have been scouted well like Coufal and Soucek that he tends to do better on.
Of the top of my head, Southampton, Forest and Chelsea have all spent crazy amounts this season yet produce performances ranging between dull competence and completely inept.
When you've got so many old players, at some stage you have to bring in younger players; clearly Moyes struggles with that transition.
Moyes has carved out a solid career as manager but it’s hard to see how it could possibly go up from here. You wouldn’t say he has any particular tactical acumen. There’s certainly no record of success. And he’s not known for elevating young players to their maximum potential.
Perhaps this is a cheap shot, but he looks at least 15 years older than his actual age of 59.
Perhaps this is a cheap shot, but he looks at least 15 years older than his actual age of 59.
Kehrer was a panic buy as Aguerd missed first half of the season, so I'll give it a benefit of the doubt. But even as a fan of Moyes I'd have to admit he tends to mess with big money transfers, with the likes of Vlasic, Haller etc. as prime examples. It's only normal for people to worry what he'd do with the money selling Rice this summer.
The Chosen One strikes again.
Well they're safe now and can focus on 2 games in ECL. Probably 2 of the biggest games for Moyes as a manager.
Ahem!
Barely survived the drop. Once they lose Rice he's fecked.
Paqueta is better than Rice.
Winning the Conference should help them attract players.
David William Moyes - European Champion
Crap tactics but won a trophy. How do you have a season where your in a relegation battle and win and European tournament
He wins matches. It's what he does
Watching his teams play, how the feck did anybody ever think he was the right man for this club.
Chuffed for West Ham, amazing achievement.
Bloody hell, he won a trophy.
Football genius