David De Gea

roonster09 said:
No. Madrid might want him but still end up falling short of the asking price, like numerous clubs didn't match Pogba's asking price.

Not sure why you even believe De Gea staying or leaving only depends on Madrid. 3 parties should agree for that to happen.
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I don't know why you keep stating the obvious. It's boring. Where did I say anything contrary to what you are saying here. As I said before it is so basic and obvious it should go without saying.

What do you want to hear? Yes - for a transfer to happen Madrid must meet the asking price, we must accept that offer and De Gea must be happy to go and agree terms with Madrid. Very good. What is this Football Transfers lesson 1!?
 
Noc-Z said:
I don't know why you keep stating the obvious. It's boring. Where did I say anything contrary to what you are saying here. As I said before it is so basic and obvious it should go without saying.

What do you want to hear? Yes - for a transfer to happen Madrid must meet the asking price, we must accept that offer and De Gea must be happy to go and agree terms with Madrid. Very good. What is this Football Transfers lesson 1!?
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No your point that he is only staying because Madrid don't want him is wrong. Football world don't revolve around what Madrid want or don't.
 
Its good that this whole DDG thing got boring really fast,so not bothered that much,otherwise would be really annoying to read every summer about transfer of spineless dumbass.
 
roonster09 said:
No your point that he is only staying because Madrid don't want him is wrong. Football world don't revolve around what Madrid want or don't.
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How do you know it's wrong are you Dave's personal confidant?
It has been reported that Dave would prefer to be in Spain, to start a family in Madrid. My understanding is that he's not demanding a transfer per se but if Madrid wanted him he would be more than open to joining. He was ready to go before and it was supposedly only down to a delayed fax that it fell through wasn't it?
Are you saying that if Madrid wanted him (and paid the asking price - obviously) that Dave wouldn't go?
In my view Dave staying here is purely down to how much do Madrid want him, because he would be happy to go there.
 
Noc-Z said:
How do you know it's wrong are you Dave's personal confidant?
It has been reported that Dave would prefer to be in Spain, to start a family in Madrid. My understanding is that he's not demanding a transfer per se but if Madrid wanted him he would be more than open to joining. He was ready to go before and it supposedly only down to a delayed fax that it fell through wasn't it?
Are you saying that if Madrid wanted him (and paid the asking price - obviously) that Dave wouldn't go?
In my view Dave staying here is purely down to how much do Madrid want him, because he would be happy to go there.
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Then why did he sign contract instead of going to Madrid on free transfer?
 
roonster09 said:
Then why did he sign contract instead of going to Madrid on free transfer?
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OK mate maybe you are right, maybe David De Gea, the Spanish National with a model girlfriend in Madrid would rather be here than Madrid. I don't think so but if that's what you believe then that's OK, we differ, no problem.
 
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roonster09 said:
Which would have been easily covered and bettered by signing on fee at next club.
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That's why I said instantly. He wasn't going to be getting the move that summer was he the window shut. So if he was going to be staying here another season he may as well sign a new contract and be on higher wages.
 
roonster09 said:
Then why did he sign contract instead of going to Madrid on free transfer?
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Euros. He'd have spent the season in the stands otherwise, and would have missed the Euros as a result

But yeah, the idea that he'd only be staying because we don't want him is silly. If he was desperate for the move he'd be putting a lot of pressure on the club to sell
 
Noc-Z said:
That's why I said instantly. He wasn't going to be getting the move that summer was he the window shut. So if he was going to be staying here another season he may as well sign a new contract and be on higher wages.
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That makes no sense. He wasn't is big debt to worry about money instantly. If he waits 3 months then he can sign pre contract with any club with massive signing on fee. He could also move to his "dream club" on massive wages as he was free transfer.
 
giorno said:
Euros

But yeah, the idea that he'd only be staying because we don't want him is silly. If he was desperate for the move he'd be putting a lot of pressure on the club to sell
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1 Euros vs 5 years of his career? Easy choice isn't it.

Agree with your second point. There is no pressure from the player for second summer running.
 
roonster09 said:
1 Euros vs 5 years of his career? Easy choice isn't it.
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Yes, it is. Playing for your NTin a major tournament beats everything else. He reportedly had a €50M release clause for the next summer inserted in the contract, too.
 
giorno said:
Euros. He'd have spent the season in the stands otherwise, and would have missed the Euros as a result

But yeah, the idea that he'd only be staying because we don't want him is silly. If he was desperate for the move he'd be putting a lot of pressure on the club to sell
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No, he doesn't want to rock the boat here and push for a move, he woudl only do that if he knew Madrid REALLY wanted him anyway. But if Madrid want him and want to meet the asking price then he would be happy to go.

roonster09 said:
That makes no sense. He wasn't is big debt to worry about money instantly. If he waits 3 months then he can sign pre contract with any club with massive signing on fee. He could also move to his "dream club" on massive wages as he was free transfer.
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:lol: A footballer doesn't have to be in debt to want more money instantly. I'm not in any debt but I wouldn't mid some more money right now. Wayne Rooney wants more money doesn't he?
 
Noc-Z said:
I'd prefer to sell him. Sick of the speculation every summer. And I don't want a player here who is only staying because Real don't want him.
Of course if Real now don't want him, no-one else will move for him.
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That's ridiculous. You'd rather not have one of the best keepers in the world playing great for us 10 months of the year because of media speculation about a transfer in the summer? I'd advise you to get your priorities right. If the speculation bothers you so much, why not stay away from it?
 
Noc-Z said:
I'd prefer to sell him. Sick of the speculation every summer. And I don't want a player here who is only staying because Real don't want him.
Of course if Real now don't want him, no-one else will move for him.
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You'd prefer to lose a world class keeper, top 2 in the world, because you don't like reading a few articles over the summer? Strange

If he stays he keep one of our best players. It's not like he sulks and kicks up a fuss during the season
 
Ainu said:
That's ridiculous. You'd rather not have one of the best keepers in the world playing great for us 10 months of the year because of media speculation about a transfer in the summer? I'd advise you to get your priorities right. If the speculation bothers you so much, why not stay away from it?
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Weird, I said basically the same thing seconds after you posted
 
Noc-Z said:
No, he doesn't want to rock the boat here and push for a move, he woudl only do that if he knew Madrid REALLY wanted him anyway. But if Madrid want him and want to meet the asking price then he would be happy to go.
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That does not mean he doesn't want to be in manchester
 
Ainu said:
That's ridiculous. You'd rather not have one of the best keepers in the world playing great for us 10 months of the year because of media speculation about a transfer in the summer? I'd advise you to get your priorities right. If the speculation bothers you so much, why not stay away from it?
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Because I follow Manchester United and all the transfer speculation that comes with it. I also believe what I have heard so often that Dave would rather be in Madrid. Not that he is unhappy here and going to push strongly for a move but that if Madrid want him and want to pay the asking price that he would be very receptive to that move. So if Madrid want him and are prepared to pay the price, then I'd be happy to sell. Don't you remember when Van Gaal signed Romero and played him as number 1 because Daves head was not in the right place? I don't want that any more. It's unsettling so if, as reported he wants to go, and Madrid want to pay, then by all means, go. But it woudl seem Madrid do not want him anymore, or specifically Zidane does not. So he stays.
 
Noc-Z said:
:lol: A footballer doesn't have to be in debt to want more money instantly. I'm not in any debt but I wouldn't mid some more money right now. Wayne Rooney wants more money doesn't he?
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What? He would have got more had he gone on free transfer. Not difficult to understand.
 
giorno said:
Yes, it is. Playing for your NTin a major tournament beats everything else. He reportedly had a €50M release clause for the next summer inserted in the contract, too.
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Playing in 1 Tournament is not worth being in the club you don't want to be in or not being at the club you want to be in. He is young and can play multiple Euros and WCs.
 
Noc-Z said:
Because I follow Manchester United and all the transfer speculation that comes with it. I also believe what I have heard so often that Dave would rather be in Madrid. Not that he is unhappy here and going to push strongly for a move but that if Madrid want him and want to pay the asking price that he would be very receptive to that move. So if Madrid want him and are prepared to pay the price, then I'd be happy to sell. Don't you remember when Van Gaal signed Romero and played him as number 1 because Daves head was not in the right place? I don't want that any more. It's unsettling so if, as reported he wants to go, and Madrid want to pay, then by all means, go. But it woudl seem Madrid do not want him anymore, or specifically Zidane does not. So he stays.
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Why on earth would you sell him if he's equally happy just staying put and playing his heart out in a Man United shirt instead of Real Madrid shirt? If he wasn't happy here, we would've noticed it. I have absolutely no problem with a player admiring another club and being open to playing for them, as long as he's just as happy playing for us, which he clearly is. Van Gaal is a madman who'd displayed questionable behaviours with keepers before and other than that time there's never been any issue whatsoever with De Gea. He's ours and I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
You want to sell him simply because you are tired of speculation? :wenger:
 
Adisa said:
You want to sell him simply because you are tired of speculation? :wenger:
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You didn't bother reading the whole post? And it's not just the speculation, it's everything that comes along with it. If Madrid offered the asking price and Dave said he'd rather stay here, then great but I don't think he would. So quite simply I am saying if Madrid offer the asking price and Dave wants to go, then sell. Don't know why that boggles your mind. In fact as I have said that would be preferable to me because I believe his preference is to be in Madrid. If you don't believe that, fair enough we're allowed to have different views you know?
 
antohan said:
Would have been a long year benched by LvG and with Euros coming up.
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He was never going to be benched all season. Just until the issue was resolved one way or another.

EDIT: Oh, do you mean that if he didn't sign the contract LvG would have kept him on the bench? :lol:
 
roonster09 said:
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Spending a wholes season warming the bench just because Florentino cocked things up isn't any better.

Fooled once but not twice. They cocked it up and he was the one bound to pay for it. Only logical decision is "feck them, if they do want me they'll pay up".

Florentino is loyal to no one. Just watch how they spent a year buttering up Aubameyang and the moment a shinier toy (Mbappe) showed up he ceased to exist.
 
antohan said:
Spending a wholes season warming the bench just because Florentino cocked things up isn't any better.

Fooled once but not twice. They cocked it up and he was the one bound to pay for it. Only logical decision is "feck them, if they do want me they'll pay up".

Florentino is loyal to no one. Just watch how they spent a year buttering up Aubameyang and the moment a shinier toy (Mbappe) showed up he ceased to exist.
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It was other way around. Auba talked about Madrid all the time.
 
roonster09 said:
Playing in 1 Tournament is not worth being in the club you don't want to be in or not being at the club you want to be in. He is young and can play multiple Euros and WCs.
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Yeah, no. There isn't a single player in the world who wants to play for his NT that will put that in jeopardy, no matter what
 
antohan said:
Spending a wholes season warming the bench just because Florentino cocked things up isn't any better.

Fooled once but not twice. They cocked it up and he was the one bound to pay for it. Only logical decision is "feck them, if they do want me they'll pay up".

Florentino is loyal to no one. Just watch how they spent a year buttering up Aubameyang and the moment a shinier toy (Mbappe) showed up he ceased to exist.
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I think you're right - I think there would be an element of this - if they really want me they'll pay for me. But I'm sure the wage increase helped too. It would be a combination of things. But signing that contract did not mean he suddenly gave up on the idea of ever playing for Madrid.
 
Noc-Z said:
He was never going to be benched all season. Just until the issue was resolved one way or another.

EDIT: Oh, do you mean that if he didn't sign the contract LvG would have kept him on the bench? :lol:
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No, he would have kept him in the stands
 
I think signing the contract probably went a bit like this...

"The deal has fallen through, I know you're disappointed, but the window is shut you are going nowhere now. Sign a new contract, we will increase your wages and give you a nice bonus. We will reinstate you in the team so you are playing again. If Madrid really want you. they will come back in for you and pay the price". And De Gea probably felt messed around a little or let down by Madrid not sealing the deal, so he signed. But he still wants to go there.
 
roonster09 said:
It was other way around. Auba talked about Madrid all the time.
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Yes, led on by Marca which kept up their bigging up campaign en route to him being the marquee signing.

It was the usual pattern they follow until the other kid showed up and they just disposed of him as a dirty ragged piece of underwear.
 
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