Had a brilliant game tonight. Looked comfortable in every way possible, made 3 great saves, a penalty save and caught every single cross that came his way. The positives definetly outweigh the negatives with him, you couldnt ask for anything more from a goalkeeper of 20 years of age.
David De Gea (SAF confirmed signing!)
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Cristiano Ronaldo has urged Manchester United to sign Atletico Madrid goalkeeper David De Gea – even though he looks like a sausage.
Sir Alex Ferguson, seeking a long-term replacement for Edwin Van Der Sar, has watched De Gea and the Real Madrid striker said: "He is awesome, very good, a big guy who looks like a sausage but is a great goalkeeper.
"I think [Real’s] Iker Casillas is the best but De Gea is exceptional."
De Gea, 20, has won seven Under-21 caps for Spain but Ronaldo, whose goal against Atletico last night secured Real’s place in the Copa Del Rey semi-finals where they will meet Sevilla, said: "He is good enough to play for the national side. He was spectacular when we played them."
Sir Alex Ferguson, seeking a long-term replacement for Edwin Van Der Sar, has watched De Gea and the Real Madrid striker said: "He is awesome, very good, a big guy who looks like a sausage but is a great goalkeeper.
"I think [Real’s] Iker Casillas is the best but De Gea is exceptional."
De Gea, 20, has won seven Under-21 caps for Spain but Ronaldo, whose goal against Atletico last night secured Real’s place in the Copa Del Rey semi-finals where they will meet Sevilla, said: "He is good enough to play for the national side. He was spectacular when we played them."
Well we do need a replacement for Zoran Sausage
I wasn't that impressed with him against Liverpool last season, but any time I've seen him this season he's looked the part. At his age of course he'll make a few mistakes but at the prices being quoted, we could have a keeper for more than a decade.
No he hasn't.
The thing is, that goes for all the young goalkeepers people like to mention. They could all in theory be with us for a decade, but will they be good enough to come in the door and perform right away? And if not, can they bounce back and make sure they're solid in their second season? And so on. There have been many good young goalkeepers who havent become as good as they might have done.
They're all billed as the next buffon, but those keepers are very rare.
Yeah, that's fair, but to my mind it's infinitely preferable to doing what we did with VDS - picking a good, experienced keeper from elsewhere in the league - as there just aren't any keepers of that standard floating about. Arguably the best keepers that might be available to us are Gordon, Jaaskelainen, Sorensen, Begovic, Howard, Schwarzer, Foster, Hennessy or Green, and IMHO, none of those are good enough.
That means we either look outside the country where, I'm sure there are lots of good goalies, but will they settle? Are they suited to the English game? It's a bit of a lottery in some ways, but I'd prefer to see a 20 year old keeper struggle to settle than a 32/33 year old, as at least you have time on their side to turn things around.
That means we either look outside the country where, I'm sure there are lots of good goalies, but will they settle? Are they suited to the English game? It's a bit of a lottery in some ways, but I'd prefer to see a 20 year old keeper struggle to settle than a 32/33 year old, as at least you have time on their side to turn things around.
Honestly VDS looked inconsistant and arguably not good enough at Fulham. I'm not sure any of those are good enough, but some experienced goalkeepers perhaps not from the premier league, should be
Given that he he had scant protection playing for a mid to bottom of the league team it's hardly surprising he didn't look great but it's hardly the point.VDS was already a national and ECL winning goalie.
What??? That comment was so silly I had to respond, for the first time in weeks and on a shitty connection in a Nepalese guesthouse.
Van der Sar was neither inconsistent nor "not good enough" at Fulham, he simply wasn't fashionable. Unlike many other such keepers though he'd already played at the highest level, and so wasn't likely to be another Foster (mentally unsuitable for top level football).
Whether De Gea, Neuer et al. will be a good move for us is entirely another matter, but Van der Sar wasn't a piece of blind good luck, he was an experienced top quality keeper who just happened to be playing for a smaller club.
quality player but i doubt we will go for him
Ronnie has always had good knowledge on various kinds of sausages.
Nah he made plenty of mistakes at Fulham. He'd proven himself at the top level before of course, but that doesnt mean he was playing as well as he has been at United. He'd have good games and bad games at Fulham whereas at United, since his first season, he's rarely had a bad game at all.
Ashley Cole also...
How did he do against Real yesterday?
That can't be right as I think he has a break clause of 20 million.
those clauses are only active for spanish clubs it seems, as has been banged on about these last few days.
the things you learn every transfer window.
This transfer rumour seems to be gathering momentum this morning
Football transfer rumours: David de Gea to Manchester United? | Football | guardian.co.uk
Football transfer rumours: David de Gea to Manchester United? | Football | guardian.co.uk
It has to be Neuer for me.
Me too.
Neuer! We want Neuer. We're going to have some fantastic Ozil-esque threads this summer 
De Gea is a fine keeper IMO.
The Mail seems to have this down as practically a done deal today.
I was happy this story had subsided and it is back.
Would love to see De Gea, some sources say our GK Coach has already undergoed some Spanish classes just for the sake of De Gea.
He would definitely be my choice.
I've been more impressed with him on the occasions I've watched him then I have Neuer who I've seen less of. I seriously doubt anyone has watched enough of any of them to make a particularly valuable judgement though.
De Gea > Neuer.
The guy is the real deal.
Only having a 1:44 video on youtube is however a bad sign, even Bébé had longer than that...
He has many longer videos on youtube, just decided on this one since it's good quality and shows some spectacular saves. Obviously, there's plenty more to see on youtube.
Now now, compilations don't mean much. You can pretty much Friedel into god for the matches he's played against us.
Anyhow, I"ve watched a few Ath.Madrid games live and De Gea usually isn't at fault for the goals they lose, he mostly does pretty well and at first I was surprised he was 20, as he has far more composure and concentration, he was similar to Casillas when he stepped up on the big stage imo.
Would be great if we went for him, I think SAF knows how important a GK is now, Barthez, Carrol, Howard were comical if you compare their performances against VDS the Dutch legend.
Anyhow, I"ve watched a few Ath.Madrid games live and De Gea usually isn't at fault for the goals they lose, he mostly does pretty well and at first I was surprised he was 20, as he has far more composure and concentration, he was similar to Casillas when he stepped up on the big stage imo.
Would be great if we went for him, I think SAF knows how important a GK is now, Barthez, Carrol, Howard were comical if you compare their performances against VDS the Dutch legend.
I think you'd be surprised.
Neuer and Adler have both been mentioned a lot in this thread and a lot of fans would like to see one of the two become the new United #1 next year. I've written at length about both in previous posts so I won't go over it all again but I compiled these statistics from their Bundesliga matches this season and collected them all into a handy little table.
Source: Bundesliga - Die offizielle Webseite
I also made these composite images showing all their loose ball wins from this season:
Neuer
Adler
Neuer despite having played one match more and faced 17 more shots on target has conceded two goals fewer and made 19 more saves with a save percentage of 73.7% compared to Adler's 65.8%. Adler has conceded a goal every 2,93 shots on target whereas Neuer has conceded a goal every 3,81 shots on target.
Neuer has made 12 more catches and three more punches for a total catches+punches/match of 2,91 compared to Adler's 2,33. He also catches a higher proportion of the crosses he faces (catch/punch ratios 2,05 vs 1,72). He has no dropped catches whereas Adler has one.
Adler has 9 more loose ball wins which as we can see from the above images tend to be around his own penalty area while Neuer is more expansive in his play.
Neuer has significantly more completed and attempted short passes at 426/446 or on average 19,4/20,3 per match compared to Adler's 11,9/13,2 per match. Neuer's short pass completion rate, despite attempting 60% more short passes than Adler, is 95,5% compared to Adler's 90,3%. Adler has completed 20 more long passes but has also attempted 90 more than Neuer. Neuer's long pass completion rate is 37,5% to Adler's 34,3%. The short pass/long pass ratios show a clear attitude difference between the two, Neuer favouring short passes and Adler favouring long passes.
So far this season Neuer has outperformed Adler in every category but one (loose ball wins). You can make of these numbers what you will but for me they have only reinforced what I already knew: Neuer is better.
He keeps notes of all of the games he's watched.
Pretty impressive stuff, too bad he didn't summarize De Gea's stats Vs Neuers.
Geesus!
letranger0 - goalkeeping scout extraordinaire. Impressive stuff dude.
(And a little bit scary)
(And a little bit scary)
Martin Ferguson is that you?
From what I've seen of Neuer he doesn't look particularly competent on aerial balls.
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