Cheers, that's a great input.
David De Gea (SAF confirmed signing!)
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Cheers, that's a great input.
he's on fire today!
He's been brilliant, that save from Carvalho was class.
Saving Atletico at the moment.
That save from Ronaldo was very good, quick reactions and a solid hand on it away from danger. Commentators said he's had a bad time of it recently, though?
Look like the real deal. Good enough to play in a top team.
Lucky not to concede there after failing to keep hold of it
Like United
The thing is though, there's an abundance of goalkeepers that can make a succession of very good saves. Talent like that is easy to find. The jury's still out on his ability to deal with crosses and his mentality.
That's twice he's spilled the ball whilst on the floor when he should be keeping hold of it.
Mediocre goalie is mediocre. Should of saved the second goal.
Coming off?
I want him at United.
Been watching him closely this season, and gotta say hand on heart he seems incredibly average, borderline poor, spills balls and seems to have a lack of concentration way too often IMHO
He has just turned 20. It is only his second year as a starter. Mistakes will be natural.
He has far more to his game than many other young goalkeepers, who seem to be just shot-stoppers.
He has far more to his game than many other young goalkeepers, who seem to be just shot-stoppers.
How could he possibly have saved the 2nd goal?
A save usually starts by putting your hand or any other body part in the way of the ball
He's good but I've seen him make plenty of mistakes like other young keepers. Still I've seen far more of him than Lloris, Adler and the rest. So if we do buy one of the young shot stoppers out there, better the devil you know. He's good, he's not the second coming (yet) and hopefully that would be represented in the transfer fee
I've not seen any of his games, but from reading on here he sounds like yet another good shot stopper who is prone to flapping occasionally.
If thats the case then he's surely not what we need, we need an experienced head who can concentrate for 90 minutes and organise a defense.
If thats the case then he's surely not what we need, we need an experienced head who can concentrate for 90 minutes and organise a defense.
Everyone seems to want the GK who is a shot stopper, can handle the pressure, can handle crosses - how many are out there? Rena, Buffon, Cesar - anyone else? Perhaps Stecklenburg
The rest are either young, inexperienced and flap at crosses and to be honest its likely we are going to have to find one who we hope we can develop.
Lloris, Adler, Neuer, De Gea and anyone else all have some great qualities but they are all have weaknesses when taking crosses or commanding their area. This is something that can be developed.
The rest are either young, inexperienced and flap at crosses and to be honest its likely we are going to have to find one who we hope we can develop.
Lloris, Adler, Neuer, De Gea and anyone else all have some great qualities but they are all have weaknesses when taking crosses or commanding their area. This is something that can be developed.
Shot stopping shouldnt be a high priority imo. I mean you want a keeper able to save the shots he should save, but if they're arrowing into the top corner from a top strike then the opponent had to do something special to score, its okay. There are plenty of keepers who could make the save, but its better to conceed like that than a fumbled cross straight to the feet of a striker. Because any team in the league can thump the ball into the box and pressure the keeper
All keepers make mistakes now and again. Cech has done it, Reina has done it and even Van Der Sar has had his moments (see West Brom at home).
I suppose its about the back four being confident in the keepers ability and it takes time for any new keeper to earn that trust.
That said, given that this lad is fairly young it may be a big ask for him to come to United, with all of the pressure that entails and slot straight in.
100% spot on. This is why 1 of the 2 German keepers would be my choice. That's providing our new keeper isn't good enough to be our #1 of course.
De Gae is potentially a quality keeper. He made a few mistakes recently but thats after a genuinely long spell of consistant dominant goalkeeping. Typical CAF in the sense he now shite again.
Hes a young keeper, they all make mistakes and always have. Lloris is another who went from "world class" to "overated" in 6 months.
Personally I think we should ignore the "next big thing" and go with experience
Hes a young keeper, they all make mistakes and always have. Lloris is another who went from "world class" to "overated" in 6 months.
Personally I think we should ignore the "next big thing" and go with experience
Who is there though?
Personally I think with Neuer you get the potential to go along with some big experience. He's played in the Champions League for a few years and kept for one of the best sides during the World Cup.
Jesus fecking Christ- hes usless and makes Lloris look like a composed keeper.
and that's a big achivement.
what?
hes a talented fella but common even more error-prone, nowehre near to Reina, Buffon, Cesar .
Still think Diego Lopez is one of the most reasonable suggestions. Plenty of experience, 6'5, can command his area a bit and can be a good shot stopper when needed.
Not "The new Buffon" like football fans tend to suggest all of De Gea, Lloris, Adler and Nueur could be because they are young players who could play in goal for a really long time. But he'd get the job done for 5 or 6 seasons
Not "The new Buffon" like football fans tend to suggest all of De Gea, Lloris, Adler and Nueur could be because they are young players who could play in goal for a really long time. But he'd get the job done for 5 or 6 seasons
I may be wrong Ekeke, but I do remember from watching Lopez, that he is not great with the ball at his feet. This is the most important thing for me.
I cant make my mind up about him. 2 seasons ago he was probably the best in spain. Then He had a very poor spell last season.
He has all the tools although Im pretty certain hes a bit of a looper!!!
Lopez is quality
You might be right there, I cant at this moment think of a specific incident where he's messed up badly with his kicking that I've seen. However, neither can I remember a specific moment when I thought his distribution was excellent. Next time I watch Villarreal I'll keep an eye on it
This. As ive said before, we have gone through dozens of "shot stopper" goalies - that is simply not what we need. We have arguably the best back four in the world so our GK doesnt actually need to be pulling off wondersaves left right and centre.
The reason teh likes of Schmeichel and VDS have been so successful (and probably why VDS can still perform for us at 40) is because they command their area and organise the back four, they are great at claiming crosses and when required can still make great saves.
The reason the likes of Foster - not to mention the hordes of goalies we got through after Schmeichel - havent been able to make it with us is not down to their simple ability to save shots, but because they have lacked other fundamentals and their mentality has simply not been there.
Im not writing off De Gea, but all the muppets drooling over his reflex saves and the likes need their heads checked.
The most important aspects of a United keeper are 1) his mentality. Does he have excellent concentration and does he have the composure for pressure situations. The type of keeper who's head doesn't drop or whose game doesn't go to garbage after an error.
2) Confidence to come out for confidently and keep coming for crosses, even if he misses some
3) Good feet.
If a young keeper has those qualities, he can usually be taught how to be better in the air and at commanding his defence.
2) Confidence to come out for confidently and keep coming for crosses, even if he misses some
3) Good feet.
If a young keeper has those qualities, he can usually be taught how to be better in the air and at commanding his defence.
Add to this concentration, in the number one spot for me.
I think Foster would have easily been the next choice No1 after VDS if his concentration was not comparable to a dog turd!!!
He is looking quality this season fro Brum but I believe that this is because he does not have any concentration issues as he is busier playing for a smaller team who on average face more shots than United do.
At United, as we dominate more games than we get dominated in, there is ample time to 'switch off' and lose concentration, which I think FOster was ultimately guilty of a lot of the time and probably cost him his place.
Rather he was guilty of simply being mentally weak. He couldn't handle pressure. To succeed at united as a keeper, composure is vital.
Agreed but if you can't concentrate at times when you've been stood doing nothing but watch United pass the ball around for 10 minutes at a time then you're going to struggle. VDS, and PIG to a lesser extent, are very good at keeping themselves busy when the ball is being played around the opposition area - they both run up and down along the 18 yard box, stretching themselves. Foster used to just stand in the 18 yard box and not do a lot but watch the game, which could have caused him to switch off a little bit.
I find this replacement of VDS discussion fascinating, and hope to God that we do not have as much of an issue as when we lost Schmeichel.
Indeed
Made a great penalty save in Madrid's game tonight
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