Van Der Gouw was a magnificent understudy. I'd say he would comfortably be our third best goalkeeper behind Smikes and VDS during SAF's reign.
David De Gea (SAF confirmed signing!)
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That was Nick Culkin geebs
If you remember getting beaten by York 3-0 then you'll remember Pilks.
Back to De Gea,
I have never seen him play, might of but never took notice of him, dont watch spanish football apart from barca.
Could someone with the knowledge give me a detailed list of his strengths, and also his weaknesses where he could improve. Also I specifically want to know how his footballing skills are, we are blessed with van der sar who is great with his feet and often starts attacks with his quick thinking a precise passing abilities, how does de gea compare? Finally his ability to claim crosses? He seems athletic but slightly frail how does he shape up?
Please help me guys, Im excited about the possibility of having one of the worlds best young goal keepers, we have never really had a major young signing in this position and i think it could be a great move if he could grow old with the club and help us achieve great things.
Is he worth the punt?
I have never seen him play, might of but never took notice of him, dont watch spanish football apart from barca.
Could someone with the knowledge give me a detailed list of his strengths, and also his weaknesses where he could improve. Also I specifically want to know how his footballing skills are, we are blessed with van der sar who is great with his feet and often starts attacks with his quick thinking a precise passing abilities, how does de gea compare? Finally his ability to claim crosses? He seems athletic but slightly frail how does he shape up?
Please help me guys, Im excited about the possibility of having one of the worlds best young goal keepers, we have never really had a major young signing in this position and i think it could be a great move if he could grow old with the club and help us achieve great things.
Is he worth the punt?
It's probably worth noting that those quoted posts are from 4-5 months ago and since then I do think there have been noticeable improvements in his aerial ability, both in terms of how often he comes to claim crosses (though he still doesn't do it that often) and how confident he is in his handling, which I think bodes well for the future, because when he does come for a cross he is usually solid, and I'm confident that with the inevitable bulking up and help from our coaches that he can develop into a strong aerial presence. He will never reach the Neuer levels of aerial domination but it's not like VDS is flying through the air grabbing every cross either, so as long as he is confident and mistake-free in the ones he does grab I think that's enough.
I guess I covered most of the rest in the quoted posts. His shot stopping, both close range/reflex and long range, is excellent, in my opinion already on par with or just slightly below the best in the world. He is very good at 1-on-1s where he uses a different style than the Germans. Instead of a big x-jump he spreads his leg wide to coax the striker into shooting between them, then he quickly turns his body sideways collapsing one knee down to the ground and closing up the space. I guess it's a question of do you want to cover as much area as possible or do you want cover a certain area very safely? I'm not a goalkeeper so I don't know which is better but personally I like De Gea's style more, the big x-jump always leaves the goalkeeper so vulnerable to a simple passed shot between his legs/underneath him.
His kicking is solid if a little bland. He's no VDS or Stekelenburg for sure but his kicking definitely isn't a weakness. His overall philosophy is reactive rather than proactive which makes sense given how good a shot stopper he is, but I would like to see him be a little more aggressive in coming for loose balls and dealing with situations before they arise. In everything he does he exudes a calm and composure which is impressive for a 20 year old, and most media reports (like that guy from Revista, not Ballague but the other one) say he is a very professional and calm person off the pitch as well. If Neuer were available we should absolutely try to sign him, but unfortunately he isn't, which means in my opinion De Gea is the best option for us.
So that's some of my thoughts just off the top of my head. Like I always say I'm no goalkeeping expert but I have watched him 37 times this season so I feel pretty good about making these comments.
I guess I covered most of the rest in the quoted posts. His shot stopping, both close range/reflex and long range, is excellent, in my opinion already on par with or just slightly below the best in the world. He is very good at 1-on-1s where he uses a different style than the Germans. Instead of a big x-jump he spreads his leg wide to coax the striker into shooting between them, then he quickly turns his body sideways collapsing one knee down to the ground and closing up the space. I guess it's a question of do you want to cover as much area as possible or do you want cover a certain area very safely? I'm not a goalkeeper so I don't know which is better but personally I like De Gea's style more, the big x-jump always leaves the goalkeeper so vulnerable to a simple passed shot between his legs/underneath him.
His kicking is solid if a little bland. He's no VDS or Stekelenburg for sure but his kicking definitely isn't a weakness. His overall philosophy is reactive rather than proactive which makes sense given how good a shot stopper he is, but I would like to see him be a little more aggressive in coming for loose balls and dealing with situations before they arise. In everything he does he exudes a calm and composure which is impressive for a 20 year old, and most media reports (like that guy from Revista, not Ballague but the other one) say he is a very professional and calm person off the pitch as well. If Neuer were available we should absolutely try to sign him, but unfortunately he isn't, which means in my opinion De Gea is the best option for us.
So that's some of my thoughts just off the top of my head. Like I always say I'm no goalkeeping expert but I have watched him 37 times this season so I feel pretty good about making these comments.
the only time ive been to Old Trafford he was in goal
I remember thinking (at about 13 years old) god he's big, I wonder how he makes any saves moving all that weight around.
Oh, Lord. Fire all our scouts.
^^ Arsenal should sign him.
Deal is done apparently.
excellent insite, thank you for your time.
That made me laugh, and then I realised I agree - no idea how true any of that is, but it's a damn sight better than most caftards "scout reports" on potential targets
According to?
Have we decided how you pronounce his name?
The Gay
The gayer
David
Day-vid or Dah-vid?
Daffyd The Gayer?
Here is moonlighting in goal for the Swiss.
I'm going to pronounce it 'De Gee'
For two reasons mainly.
1.) The Spanish have no clue how to pronounce what their names actually say.
2.) We beat the Spanish Armada, which gives me an idea.
For two reasons mainly.
1.) The Spanish have no clue how to pronounce what their names actually say.
2.) We beat the Spanish Armada, which gives me an idea.
Dah-vid De Gee
Ok - so its Gay Dave then ?
In IPA: (roughly) /da'β̞ið̞ de 'xea/
'Da' - more or less as in English dad. For the 'd' the tongue touches the teeth, not the little ridge behind it as in English. The /a/ is about halfway between the vowels in Mancunian dad and posh southern dart (but short).
'v' - put your lips together like a /b/ but then make a /v/ sound through them.
'i' - as in English beat.
Final 'd' as in English breathe.
'de' - kind of like day, but shorten it so the top of your tongue doesn't rise towards an /i/ at the end.
Gea - like the 'ch' in loch, the vowels as above in 'de' and 'Da-'. They are two separate vowels, not a glide between vowels, nor is there a glottal stop in the middle as we often do in English. I don't really know how to pronounce two vowels next to each other like that, but it seems the Spanish do.
You can hear it here.
Or alternatively, you can just carry on calling him 'David the Gay'.
'Da' - more or less as in English dad. For the 'd' the tongue touches the teeth, not the little ridge behind it as in English. The /a/ is about halfway between the vowels in Mancunian dad and posh southern dart (but short).
'v' - put your lips together like a /b/ but then make a /v/ sound through them.
'i' - as in English beat.
Final 'd' as in English breathe.
'de' - kind of like day, but shorten it so the top of your tongue doesn't rise towards an /i/ at the end.
Gea - like the 'ch' in loch, the vowels as above in 'de' and 'Da-'. They are two separate vowels, not a glide between vowels, nor is there a glottal stop in the middle as we often do in English. I don't really know how to pronounce two vowels next to each other like that, but it seems the Spanish do.
You can hear it here.
Or alternatively, you can just carry on calling him 'David the Gay'.
Or to be slightly more serious...here is how you pronounce his name:
David de Gea Quintana pronunciation: How to pronounce David de Gea Quintana in Spanish
David de Gea Quintana pronunciation: How to pronounce David de Gea Quintana in Spanish
It's not a zero sum game. The more posts like this, the less of our own fans call him David the Gay.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I don't know Spanish but in Italian it would be
da'y'-Gay-ag'r' (without the y and r)
da'y'-Gay-ag'r' (without the y and r)
Gea seems softer than 'ch' in loch. More like a stronger/longer h sound that can be found in Arabic. Unless, that is, my ears are packing in.
Daveeeed The Gay
Hebrew's got the same H sound.
Yes I think it is a bit. Arabic has three h-like sounds so it depends which one you mean. According to Wikipedia their /x/ varies quite a lot between dialects as to how far back it's pronounced.
Arabic also has similar.
I'm sticking with da-veed de hay-a.
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