David De Gea (SAF confirmed signing!)

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Yes, if he is good enough. Just remember what Juventus got when they bagged Buffon.

Buffon had three more years of experience playing in the Serie A and was already first choice keeper for the Italian National Team (would have started Euro 2000 if not for his broken hand) when he made his move to a bigger club.

Let's hope De Gea turns out to be as good as your example above. That is if he joins..
 
Well if Kuszczak and VDS leave we'll only have Lindegaard left. Wouldn't that leave us needing to buy two goalkeepers, or is Fergie intending to use Amos as 3rd choice?

Works for me. Not sure either would move unless they were first choice mind.
 
Potential. Can we risk having a young keeper at the back for us? Its a massive gamble in my opinion, you can't get the goalkeeping position wrong, just look at Arsenal.

I'd go with my head on this matter and look for someone older and more experienced. Its about the right player at the right time. De Gea is the right player but at the wrong time.

Yes we can IMHO. Fergie always bought potential and gambled, and many times, it worked out brilliantly. I would have faith in De Gea, no doubt
 
Also what convinces me even more is the fact that Spain have some good keepers behind the likes of Casillas, Reina, Valdes.. Yet Del Bosque picked DDG as his 4th choice (during the Pre-World matches) over the likes of Diego Lopes (Villareal keeper over whom everybody seemed to be wanking), Asenjo (whom he has over taken as number 1 at Atletico and thus forcing them to letting him go out on Loan this season) etc..

The only big question mark for me is how good a footballer is he? Nobody seems to have an opinion on that.. We have been totally spoilt by VDS and his great ability with the ball at either of his feet.. I would assume it would be quite an essential requirement for a keeper who is joining us.. Some have mentioned that he has good kicks on him (with either foot) but that doesn't really tell us much as to how calm and composed he is while the ball is at his feet.. Other than that the only downside to his game is that he has a lack of experience due to his young age.. But what's that saying? If your good enough your old enough..
I don't think that means much. I think he had the player's development in mind when he did that. As fourth keeper, he'd never get any game time, nor occupy a spot in the 23 man squad, therefore, it would be wisest to pick the most talented keeper, with an eye to the future of the national team, and let him hang around with the team and train with the likes of Villa and Torres.

Picking another keeper who's in his thirtiest would've made no sense whatsoever despite him being better than De Gea.

Think of it like a Walcott-style-call-up, apart from the fact that Sven picked him in the final squad and took a place from a better player :wenger:
 
Potential. Can we risk having a young keeper at the back for us? Its a massive gamble in my opinion, you can't get the goalkeeping position wrong, just look at Arsenal.

I'd go with my head on this matter and look for someone older and more experienced. Its about the right player at the right time. De Gea is the right player but at the wrong time.

But if we do sign him then that does mean that we have scouted him extensively and that our staff and SAF think he is good enough to be our number 1.. Which I honestly and genuinely believe he is..

I don't think that means much. I think he had the player's development in mind when he did that. As fourth keeper, he'd never get any game time, nor occupy a spot in the 23 man squad, therefore, it would be wisest to pick the most talented keeper, with an eye to the future of the national team, and let him hang around with the team and train with the likes of Villa and Torres.

Picking another keeper who's in his thirtiest would've made no sense whatsoever despite him being better than De Gea.

Think of it like a Walcott-style-call-up, apart from the fact that Sven picked him in the final squad and took a place from a better player :wenger:

Your probably right but that still is a huge confidence booster for the lad to be keeping out other big name Spanish keepers from the un-cut World Cup squad.. Also you never know Del Bousque may well have decided to take De Gea instead of Valdes who is nothing but an average GK..
 
Buffon had three more years of experience playing in the Serie A and was already first choice keeper for the Italian National Team (would have started Euro 2000 if not for his broken hand) when he made his move to a bigger club.
Indeed. My point was though that Buffon move Juventus aged 23 which was young for a keeper to sign for such a big club. Before that he had been first choice at Parma aged 18. De gea for me is similar in that, it is rare for a keeper as early as 19 to be first choice at a club like Atletico.


Let's hope De Gea turns out to be as good as your example above. That is if he joins..
Agreed
 
Well if Kuszczak and VDS leave we'll only have Lindegaard left. Wouldn't that leave us needing to buy two goalkeepers, or is Fergie intending to use Amos as 3rd choice?

Amos was third choice the first half of this season until we bought Lindegaard. Doesn't he get one more year without having to be registered (hence saving a spot in the 25-man squad)?
 
Amos is home grown, keep him...

PIG will leave sadly, I actually liked him but I understand his desire to play week-in week-out, he won't get it here and SAF knows that it will be costly to try GK's again hence Howard and Carroll provided a horrid time to the fans imo.

Its De Gea/Skaatelburg/Neuer that most muppets want I and I really do hope we get one of them.
 
The only big question mark for me is how good a footballer is he? Nobody seems to have an opinion on that.. We have been totally spoilt by VDS and his great ability with the ball at either of his feet.. I would assume it would be quite an essential requirement for a keeper who is joining us.. Some have mentioned that he has good kicks on him (with either foot) but that doesn't really tell us much as to how calm and composed he is while the ball is at his feet.. Other than that the only downside to his game is that he has a lack of experience due to his young age.. But what's that saying? If your good enough your old enough..

I watch a fair number of Atletico but that's usually a "watch" as in it's on the TV while I'm reading, talking, playing with RedCafe sense - so I tend to see the Youtube moments, the goals / saves / action replays.

With that proviso, I can tell you that his teammates have confidence in him, he's usually available for a backpass to relieve pressure and the ball usually goes to an Atletico player.

Comparing him to Casillas - because he's the best young keeper I've seen since Casillas - I'd say he's less of an amazing shotstopper, but he's also more likely to pluck the ball out of the air. If De Gea comes out of his area it's because he has to, or because he's going to win the ball - whereas you always suspect Casillas might be about to do something bizarre.

He's young of course, and experience always helps, but Casillas had won 2 CL medals by the time he was 21 so age is only part of the story.
 
Having analyzed recent comments from SAF, VDS and Neuer I think it all starts to make sense.

VDS said to the Dutch press, that we've already made a choice on who will be his successor, but won't tell who it is. This indicates, that we're pretty sure on getting our man, maybe even have a deal in place. Hence the "United was never an option" Neuer comments he made when questioned repeatedly by the German press about his possible transfer to Man United. It is possible he knows United have decided on another GK to succeed VDS and maybe even have a deal in place, so, in fact, they're not an option for him.

As for SAF's comments, it's only normal to praise a player after such a fantastic performance against your team. That does not mean you will do everything to sign him. In fact, Fergies comments suggest otherwise - that he thinks Neuer is bound on joining Bayern. Such comments are to be expected if in fact we already decided on someone else to succeed VDS - what else can he say?

So, based on VDS comments I genuinely believe we already have a deal in place for VDS's successor. Knowing Fergie, he may as well pull a rabbit out of the hat (in terms of signing a GK who has hardly been linked with us) but this time I think it's of very high probability that we're signing De Gea.

Whether it is a good choice, only time can tell.
 
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Amos is home grown, keep him...

PIG will leave sadly, I actually liked him but I understand his desire to play week-in week-out, he won't get it here and SAF knows that it will be costly to try GK's again hence Howard and Carroll provided a horrid time to the fans imo.

Its De Gea/Skaatelburg/Neuer that most muppets want I and I really do hope we get one of them.

So close.
 
I watch a fair number of Atletico but that's usually a "watch" as in it's on the TV while I'm reading, talking, playing with RedCafe sense - so I tend to see the Youtube moments, the goals / saves / action replays.

With that proviso, I can tell you that his teammates have confidence in him, he's usually available for a backpass to relieve pressure and the ball usually goes to an Atletico player.

Comparing him to Casillas - because he's the best young keeper I've seen since Casillas - I'd say he's less of an amazing shotstopper, but he's also more likely to pluck the ball out of the air. If De Gea comes out of his area it's because he has to, or because he's going to win the ball - whereas you always suspect Casillas might be about to do something bizarre.

He's young of course, and experience always helps, but Casillas had won 2 CL medals by the time he was 21 so age is only part of the story.

Thanks for that.. Luckily for us he is still young and if we sign him our coaches can ensure he spends quite a bit of time improving his footballing abilities.. I really hope we sign him and not any of the other touted such as Stekelenberg, Lloris, Rui Patrico etc.. Rene Adler wouldn't be a bad 2nd choice though..
 
Not news exactly but Atletico president was telling the press today that they've offered De Gea a new contract and it's up to him now: "We've done all we can. In the end they play where they want."
 
Atletico Madrid president Enrique Cerezo has confirmed the club have offered Manchester United goalkeeping target David de Gea a new deal.


United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is believed to have lined up a move for De Gea as he seeks a replacement for veteran Edwin van der Sar, who is retiring at the end of the season.

Atletico have continually played down suggestions that a deal has been agreed with United and now they have offered the keeper a new improved contract to try and keep him at Vicente Calderon.

"De Gea is a magnificent player in the squad and has two years left on his contract. We [have] made a renewal offer," Cerezo told Europa Press.

"But it does not depend on us. We will speak to him at the end of term and see what happens."

F365

Desperation?
 
Was always going to happen with him having two years left. Guess we may find out what happens sooner rather than later with them having offered him a new one. If he doesn't want to sign then we know there's a good chance of his arrival.
 
Decided to finally watch this fecker and within 10 minutes of me turning the game on, he's conceded 2 goals to Malaga. Even Julio Baptista scored. He's obviously shit.
 
Nothing new, it seems we're still waiting for a decision from De Gea. I hope we get him, could be first choice for the next 15 years.

Not sure if this is true but I read he's changing agents at the end of the season so perhaps that could be causing any delay?
 

"But he has a question mark about the move. He’s a young goalie, only 20, and he’s wondering whether or not he wants to come to England now,"


Yeah, so basically he claims that the fee is agreed, but he still writes something like this in order not to look stupid when the deal doesn't go through. How convenient.

And is basically exactly what was said 2-3 weeks ago by loads of papers and Balague.
 
Nothing new, it seems we're still waiting for a decision from De Gea. I hope we get him, could be first choice for the next 15 years.

Not sure if this is true but I read he's changing agents at the end of the season so perhaps that could be causing any delay?

His current agent, Jorge Mendes (done a lot of deals with United) is pushing the move and is trying to get it done, De Gea's waiting before he changes agents in June
 
My concern is for the lads mentality. We have seen how the mental side of things can turn a good keeper into pants - Foster anyone?

I was an advocate of signing our replacement LAST summer so that he would have a year to bed in, get used to the club and so forth, before being thrust into the first team.
Assuming all that is being said is true (which is a big assumption, granted) if De Gea is having second thoughts and his head isnt entirely in it yet, it might be disastrous were we to get him and instantly demand him to be our #1 with pretty big shoes to fill.
 
His current agent, Jorge Mendes (done a lot of deals with United) is pushing the move and is trying to get it done, De Gea's waiting before he changes agents in June
mendes is not his agent, but there us a chance he will be his agent in the summer
 
mendes is not his agent, but there us a chance he will be his agent in the summer

Is it the other way around? He has another agent now and is switching to Mendes in June?

Edit: Okay, nevermind, found an article explaining it. He's denied he's switching to Mendes.
 
My concern is for the lads mentality. We have seen how the mental side of things can turn a good keeper into pants - Foster anyone?

I was an advocate of signing our replacement LAST summer so that he would have a year to bed in, get used to the club and so forth, before being thrust into the first team.
Assuming all that is being said is true (which is a big assumption, granted) if De Gea is having second thoughts and his head isnt entirely in it yet, it might be disastrous were we to get him and instantly demand him to be our #1 with pretty big shoes to fill.

I wouldn't be too worried about that. Mentally I think he is very strong, doesn't seem to get fazed at all (just my opinion).
 
Is it the other way around? He has another agent now and is switching to Mendes in June?

Edit: Okay, nevermind, found an article explaining it. He's denied he's switching to Mendes.

Mendes is working on behalf of United and Athetico (amongst others) at the moment.

De Gea is just part of the story.
 
From the gossip columns in Spain.

United and Atletico have agreed a deal and De Gea has told the press - he won't talk about his future until 30th June.
- no new news there

However, from an unlikely and disreputable source, a Spanish celeb gossip show (I know - but it's good for my Spanish to try and understand 5 people screaming simultaneously and the trailer mentioned De Gea)
- De Gea is dating a Spanish pop singer called Edurne (this bit's definitely true they've been photographed together for months) and it's apparently serious enough that if he moves, he wants her to go with him.

As you'd expect there was talk of "overheard" (aka probably invented) remarks like "two men in suits" at a restaurant with De Gea and Edurne telling her - "You speak English, it'll be fine."

;)
 
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