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Thus says Kemo
Yes, if he is good enough. Just remember what Juventus got when they bagged Buffon.Potential. Can we risk having a young keeper at the back for us? .....
Yes, if he is good enough. Just remember what Juventus got when they bagged Buffon.Potential. Can we risk having a young keeper at the back for us? .....
Well if Kuszczak and VDS leave we'll only have Lindegaard left. Wouldn't that leave us needing to buy two goalkeepers, or is Fergie intending to use Amos as 3rd choice?Buy both and use De Gea as a backup maybe?![]()
Yes, if he is good enough. Just remember what Juventus got when they bagged Buffon.
Yes, if he is good enough. Just remember what Juventus got when they bagged Buffon.
Well if Kuszczak and VDS leave we'll only have Lindegaard left. Wouldn't that leave us needing to buy two goalkeepers, or is Fergie intending to use Amos as 3rd choice?
Potential. Can we risk having a young keeper at the back for us? Its a massive gamble in my opinion, you can't get the goalkeeping position wrong, just look at Arsenal.
I'd go with my head on this matter and look for someone older and more experienced. Its about the right player at the right time. De Gea is the right player but at the wrong time.
I don't think that means much. I think he had the player's development in mind when he did that. As fourth keeper, he'd never get any game time, nor occupy a spot in the 23 man squad, therefore, it would be wisest to pick the most talented keeper, with an eye to the future of the national team, and let him hang around with the team and train with the likes of Villa and Torres.Also what convinces me even more is the fact that Spain have some good keepers behind the likes of Casillas, Reina, Valdes.. Yet Del Bosque picked DDG as his 4th choice (during the Pre-World matches) over the likes of Diego Lopes (Villareal keeper over whom everybody seemed to be wanking), Asenjo (whom he has over taken as number 1 at Atletico and thus forcing them to letting him go out on Loan this season) etc..
The only big question mark for me is how good a footballer is he? Nobody seems to have an opinion on that.. We have been totally spoilt by VDS and his great ability with the ball at either of his feet.. I would assume it would be quite an essential requirement for a keeper who is joining us.. Some have mentioned that he has good kicks on him (with either foot) but that doesn't really tell us much as to how calm and composed he is while the ball is at his feet.. Other than that the only downside to his game is that he has a lack of experience due to his young age.. But what's that saying? If your good enough your old enough..
Potential. Can we risk having a young keeper at the back for us? Its a massive gamble in my opinion, you can't get the goalkeeping position wrong, just look at Arsenal.
I'd go with my head on this matter and look for someone older and more experienced. Its about the right player at the right time. De Gea is the right player but at the wrong time.
I don't think that means much. I think he had the player's development in mind when he did that. As fourth keeper, he'd never get any game time, nor occupy a spot in the 23 man squad, therefore, it would be wisest to pick the most talented keeper, with an eye to the future of the national team, and let him hang around with the team and train with the likes of Villa and Torres.
Picking another keeper who's in his thirtiest would've made no sense whatsoever despite him being better than De Gea.
Think of it like a Walcott-style-call-up, apart from the fact that Sven picked him in the final squad and took a place from a better player![]()
Indeed. My point was though that Buffon move Juventus aged 23 which was young for a keeper to sign for such a big club. Before that he had been first choice at Parma aged 18. De gea for me is similar in that, it is rare for a keeper as early as 19 to be first choice at a club like Atletico.Buffon had three more years of experience playing in the Serie A and was already first choice keeper for the Italian National Team (would have started Euro 2000 if not for his broken hand) when he made his move to a bigger club.
AgreedLet's hope De Gea turns out to be as good as your example above. That is if he joins..
Well if Kuszczak and VDS leave we'll only have Lindegaard left. Wouldn't that leave us needing to buy two goalkeepers, or is Fergie intending to use Amos as 3rd choice?
The only big question mark for me is how good a footballer is he? Nobody seems to have an opinion on that.. We have been totally spoilt by VDS and his great ability with the ball at either of his feet.. I would assume it would be quite an essential requirement for a keeper who is joining us.. Some have mentioned that he has good kicks on him (with either foot) but that doesn't really tell us much as to how calm and composed he is while the ball is at his feet.. Other than that the only downside to his game is that he has a lack of experience due to his young age.. But what's that saying? If your good enough your old enough..
Amos is home grown, keep him...
PIG will leave sadly, I actually liked him but I understand his desire to play week-in week-out, he won't get it here and SAF knows that it will be costly to try GK's again hence Howard and Carroll provided a horrid time to the fans imo.
Its De Gea/Skaatelburg/Neuer that most muppets want I and I really do hope we get one of them.
I watch a fair number of Atletico but that's usually a "watch" as in it's on the TV while I'm reading, talking, playing with RedCafe sense - so I tend to see the Youtube moments, the goals / saves / action replays.
With that proviso, I can tell you that his teammates have confidence in him, he's usually available for a backpass to relieve pressure and the ball usually goes to an Atletico player.
Comparing him to Casillas - because he's the best young keeper I've seen since Casillas - I'd say he's less of an amazing shotstopper, but he's also more likely to pluck the ball out of the air. If De Gea comes out of his area it's because he has to, or because he's going to win the ball - whereas you always suspect Casillas might be about to do something bizarre.
He's young of course, and experience always helps, but Casillas had won 2 CL medals by the time he was 21 so age is only part of the story.
Atletico Madrid president Enrique Cerezo has confirmed the club have offered Manchester United goalkeeping target David de Gea a new deal.
United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is believed to have lined up a move for De Gea as he seeks a replacement for veteran Edwin van der Sar, who is retiring at the end of the season.
Atletico have continually played down suggestions that a deal has been agreed with United and now they have offered the keeper a new improved contract to try and keep him at Vicente Calderon.
"De Gea is a magnificent player in the squad and has two years left on his contract. We [have] made a renewal offer," Cerezo told Europa Press.
"But it does not depend on us. We will speak to him at the end of term and see what happens."
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Desperation?
"But he has a question mark about the move. He’s a young goalie, only 20, and he’s wondering whether or not he wants to come to England now,"
Yeah, so basically he claims that the fee is agreed, but he still writes something like this in order not to look stupid when the deal doesn't go through. How convenient.
Nothing new, it seems we're still waiting for a decision from De Gea. I hope we get him, could be first choice for the next 15 years.
Not sure if this is true but I read he's changing agents at the end of the season so perhaps that could be causing any delay?
mendes is not his agent, but there us a chance he will be his agent in the summerHis current agent, Jorge Mendes (done a lot of deals with United) is pushing the move and is trying to get it done, De Gea's waiting before he changes agents in June
mendes is not his agent, but there us a chance he will be his agent in the summer
My concern is for the lads mentality. We have seen how the mental side of things can turn a good keeper into pants - Foster anyone?
I was an advocate of signing our replacement LAST summer so that he would have a year to bed in, get used to the club and so forth, before being thrust into the first team.
Assuming all that is being said is true (which is a big assumption, granted) if De Gea is having second thoughts and his head isnt entirely in it yet, it might be disastrous were we to get him and instantly demand him to be our #1 with pretty big shoes to fill.
Is it the other way around? He has another agent now and is switching to Mendes in June?
Edit: Okay, nevermind, found an article explaining it. He's denied he's switching to Mendes.