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Obviously you must have stated these criticisms before with a full season worth of football to watch?
I'm genuinely curious
Didn't he do those things while at us, especially with ever changing defenses. He's all about making world class, crazy saves.
Dave not world class?
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
Saying David De Gea is not a world class goalkeeper should be a bannable offense on here.
Iker was a god for Spain.
You get in more 1v1 situations when you play a high line like Spain does. One of Iker’s biggest strengths was 1v1 saves, see the 2010 World Cup final
Whenever I registered is irrelevent, used to be a lurker here for years.
I've never doubted that DDG is a great GK who has been indeed brilliant consistently in Premier League for United for several seasons.
Just saying that DDG needs to replicate that for both Spain and in Champions League.
He is definitely capable, although it has yet to be seen so far.
Performing great in everywhere and not in just a single competition, is what define a genuine world class GK (in DDG's case) IMO.
I rate Schmeicel too but even if De Gea wasn't our best ever, that doesn't mean he's not world class? The two things aren't mutually exclusive or someone could say Xavi was Barca's best midfielder so Iniesta wasn't world class?
There’s been several occasions where De Gea has pulled off a worldie save when he’s not had much to do all game.
@El Pasillo world class to me is the top class of footballer in their respective position. De Gea is top 2.
He’s also 27, players like Kahn and Schmeichel were at their best past 32. So being one of the best keepers in the world already, I’d say he’s on course to be one of the best ever.
Using that he’s not been as good for Spain as he has for United as a reason for him not being world class doesn’t hold up. He’s only recently become their #1 and there’s examples of other amazing players who can’t reach the same height with their national teams - at least De Gea has time.
Just shows how a couple weeks across a few matches goes a long, long way to the general public's perception while the true, constant football watching supporters have the much, much better context and understanding of a player's talent/contribution.
By this world cup along, Messi and DDG should be two of the most overrated and overhyped players in the world...but that is obviously far from the truth.
I could careless what DDG does or doesn't do in a Spain shirt. He's the easiest person to place blame whenever Spain concedes goals because Pique and Ramos cannot be touched it seems.
Again, DDG just doesn't enjoy himself in a Spanish shirt as he's not truly embraced by his fellow countrymen/women and he doesn't deserve the lack of support just because he plays abroad in England and has never played for Real or Barcelona. He'll need to win Euros or a World Cup with Spain in goal for the remainder of doubters to be silenced.
By this world cup along, Messi and DDG should be two of the most overrated and overhyped players in the world...but that is obviously far from the truth.
I could careless what DDG does or doesn't do in a Spain shirt. He's the easiest person to place blame whenever Spain concedes goals because Pique and Ramos cannot be touched it seems.
Again, DDG just doesn't enjoy himself in a Spanish shirt as he's not truly embraced by his fellow countrymen/women and he doesn't deserve the lack of support just because he plays abroad in England and has never played for Real or Barcelona. He'll need to win Euros or a World Cup with Spain in goal for the remainder of doubters to be silenced.
DDG just needs to replicate it for Spain at major competitions now that he's the Spanish #1. He's done it in Champions League already and just because he hasn't reach the last 4 or a final with United at a Champions League shouldn't be held against him. You only do it if you haven't really watched him or payed attention, not saying you have or haven't.
You're talking out of your arse.
He made, I think two absolutely two world class saves against Sevila. I certainly don't remember any "mistake" he made in the second game.
You have to go back about 5 pages in his comment history before you find him not criticising a United player.
Wow. Well, who cares about Spain as long as David makes many saves for United till he retires with us. Hopefully he will never leave United. 
David is crap. Look somewhere else Perez
Yeah Perez DDG is crap for realz ..
His form for Spain World cup campaign has been in the dip way before last three matches. He let in easy goals in friendlies as well.
People on social network actually hating him now for his " ball watching" attitude in some of those goals and asking for Kepa to start. Not that I care.
People on social network actually hating him now for his " ball watching" attitude in some of those goals and asking for Kepa to start. Not that I care.
Just another troll here.
I think you slipped through the net when the newbie forums were restructured and some had their daily posts in the main forums restricted.
One thing he hasn't really improved on since he's been here is his ability on the ball and being a proactive keeper, probably because he's not really needed to further these aspects of his game at United. I do think he's got the natural talent to do it as I seem to remember his ball-playing ability being great when he first came.
Still the best keeper in the world but always aspects you can improve.
Still the best keeper in the world but always aspects you can improve.
Guess what you can't say "IDGAF if he sucks for Spain" and laugh at people suggesting he isn't world class.
You will have to deal with neutral fans having that opinion. He won't be considered the best goalkeeper in the world if he keeps sucking for the NT.
David is my favorite United player and I think he's the best in the World for how he carried this team in the league, but just don't act surprised if he doesn't place in the top 5 again in those FIFA goalkeeper of the year awards.
You will have to deal with neutral fans having that opinion. He won't be considered the best goalkeeper in the world if he keeps sucking for the NT.
David is my favorite United player and I think he's the best in the World for how he carried this team in the league, but just don't act surprised if he doesn't place in the top 5 again in those FIFA goalkeeper of the year awards.
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He's still got some weaknesses in his game. These have been evident at United and even more evident with him struggling for confidence in his national team. The most obvious flaw in his game is the need to be much more decisive coming off his line. Even in red hot form for his club, this was occasionally an issue. The modern keeper has to be competent at doing the whole "sweeper keeper" thing and the likes of Neuer and Lloris are streets ahead of him in his regard.
Christ
Some people can't accept that DDG isn't in his best for Spain . Spain play with very high defense line, United play with tight defense and that fits his style more. That's why we see him the best shot stopper out there, for Spain not so much.
And his problem is not just in this WC. Go watch their friendlies, DDG let in easy goals as well. If I was Spain fan and didn't watch him regularly, I would absolutely not want him in the starting lineup. But the soon they go out the better so whatever, hurry up and come back to United Dave. Which that being said, there're some aspects that he can improve and to be the best, he needs to prove himself in the highest level.
. Spain play with very high defense line, United play with tight defense and that fits his style more. That's why we see him the best shot stopper out there, for Spain not so much. And his problem is not just in this WC. Go watch their friendlies, DDG let in easy goals as well. If I was Spain fan and didn't watch him regularly, I would absolutely not want him in the starting lineup. But the soon they go out the better so whatever, hurry up and come back to United Dave. Which that being said, there're some aspects that he can improve and to be the best, he needs to prove himself in the highest level.
Christ. You really are only as good as your last game around here, eh?
The last 4 years have been deleted from memory, because of a couple of iffy performances for a different team.
The 2nd goal against Portugal deserves flack, for certain, but Ramos and Pique should be shouldering the majority of the blame for Spain leaking goals.
Not world class? Madness. If we're using performances from this WC to summarise players over their much more consistent club form, I guess Messi is shit too. They should sell him, and replace him with Quintero, and we should sack off De Gea and get that 45 year old Egyptian in.
The last 4 years have been deleted from memory, because of a couple of iffy performances for a different team.
The 2nd goal against Portugal deserves flack, for certain, but Ramos and Pique should be shouldering the majority of the blame for Spain leaking goals.
Not world class? Madness. If we're using performances from this WC to summarise players over their much more consistent club form, I guess Messi is shit too. They should sell him, and replace him with Quintero, and we should sack off De Gea and get that 45 year old Egyptian in.
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Looks obvious troll. Saying De Gea isn't world class or Lukaku was wasteful against Tunisia is just obvious troll.
Is he ManUtd fan or just a "Football fan" btw?
His unwillingness to come off his line is definitely something that is a fair criticism, and has been for the duration of his career. Far too many times you have seen one of our defenders shepherding the ball back, looking for Dave to claim the ball, and then having to make a hurried clearance because he is chained to the line. The Utd defenders know him and have mostly adapted to his style(not something they get credit for mind) but for a national team without that chemistry that issue could cause some nervousness in a back 4.
Bannable?
The person who claims he is not World class, should be sectioned for his own safety.
But he's not though. You're kind of laying Ramos and Pique feck ups at Davids door which is ridiculous quite frankly.
No I am not, I am talking about Dave as an overall package. His reluctance to leave the line is an issue. I still think he is an incredible keeper but it is one thing that he needs to improve on.
But sides rarely score 1 v 1 against us.
Its really not a problem. If it was there would be countless examples.
It is not just in 1 v 1s. There are times when there will be a ball hit over the top and many keeper would come out, sweep up and either clear the ball or gather it at the top of their box. Dave tends to leave that to the defenders, stay inside his 6 yard box. If a defender is used to a keeper coming, and most do more aggressively these days, Dave's reluctance could be a little strange.
Spain are struggling and small things that are not really big issues can become so when they are searching for fixes.
And the defenders clear it or it would lead to scenarios like a 1 on 1.
It just seems posters have this idea in their head and attach buzz words and phrases to it without that much proof.
I can't picture a striker latching on to an over the top ball against us, I really can't.
He's been here forever, you would think if clearing up over the top balls was a problem then he would have more examples of failing at this.
Does Courtois do this? Oblack? Ter Stegen?
Just because Neuer comes marauding out doesn't mean its a necessary skillset to have.
Its like the obsession this forum has with the press, categorising it with the basics when its an option and not a necessity.
Neuer is the extreme in coming out, almost insanely aggressive, De Gea is at the other end of the scale. How many times has it lead to goals against Utd? Not many that I can recall to be fair, at least directly. I am not just taking about long balls to create a 1 v 1 though, can be balls flicked on or bouncing through and you think Dave should be coming, and he isn't. It is not buzz words or paper talk or an agenda, or however you choose to categorize it, it comes from watching him, and other keepers, and noting a clear difference in approach to certain situations.
To put it another way, can anyone remember De Gea ever coming out of his box to clear a football? And it's not as though Neuer is the only keeper in the game to do this. Lloris and Ederson would be two other good PL examples (that's how Ederson got Mane sent off) De Gea is very clearly at the opposite extreme and would be a better keeper IMHO if he took a bit more responsibility when it comes to sweeping up behind his defenders.
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