Not one mistake.
I think they are all around the same level but I would rank ter stegen as the #1 GK from last season.
DDG Oblak Alisson perfromed at the same level last season.
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Not one mistake.
I think they are all around the same level but I would rank ter stegen as the #1 GK from last season.
DDG Oblak Alisson perfromed at the same level last season.
Oblak? The Atletico Madrid GK? Last time I saw him it was in a penalty shootout against Madrid in the CL final, he looked about as second rate as it gets.
He is trying to defend himself in the press, saying he has not killed anyone , that a player should not be changed by a single mistake, and that the Spanish press is very critical with him 
Obviously he is getting a lot of stick
Obviously he is getting a lot of stick
Buffon has a terrible penalty record and is probably the best GK in the modern era along with Neuer...
He is trying to defend himself in the press, saying he has not killed anyone , that a player should not be changed by a single mistake, and that the Spanish press is very critical with him
Obviously he is getting a lot of stick
Who would replace him though realistically? Reina is weak and kepa's form dipped since the Madrid stuff in jan
he is crap at pens just like Buffon, again Buffons Pen record is probably one of the worst out of all top Gks.
He is trying to defend himself in the press, saying he has not killed anyone , that a player should not be changed by a single mistake, and that the Spanish press is very critical with him
Obviously he is getting a lot of stick
Excellent
Wait, what? How can you just dismiss a GK being bad at penalties as just something that is accepted and still say he's one of the best in the world?
He's literally just picking a corner and diving, hoping the ball hits him on the way. I understand you can go most your career and not save one if you're unlucky but you got to at least dive.
I too think people are overreacting here. Yes he has made 2-3 big mistake in Spanish team and a few in United, that is normal. If you look at the best goalkeeper the last decade, who imo is Neuer, he has made plenty of mistakes as well as other star keepers.
At the same time, for me he has not yet proven himself on the big stage.
I would think twice about that "I hope he fails with Spain so real wont buy him" nonsense. As if blunders like that can't destroy a player's confidence long term.
Someone who has a standard performance. I do not ask for miracles but at least not so catastrophic mistakes, especially when they shoot you only a few times throughout the match
If we were in a league, the most logical thing would be to give him confidence, but when there are so few games, it can end up causing insecurity in the whole team.
Kepa should have at least one chance.
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Players who have shown their quality in their career and are able to hack the pressure of playing for big clubs rarely get their confidence destroyed after one bad game or two. De Gea knows he is good and is very confident about it, he has spoken about how he has improved from his early days many times.
Its' players like Karius who wilt after one bad performance. Likes of Ronaldo, Ramos, De Gea etc have nerves of steel.
Tired of seeing this command of the area stick being used to beat De Gea.
De Gea is playing behind far worse players, it's not even close.
Absolutely rubbish. Costa missed an absolute sitter, and you should have had four goals. Nacho made a rookie mistake for the pen. Pique was an idiot making a free kick on Ronaldo who was going nowhere before his third goal. But yes, blame the goalie who made a mistake. At least you won’t be original.
Costa scored two goals, one of them very good. And Nacho can go to the bench in the next game and no one would make a drama, despite his great goal.
It is as if we blame Mane, for a certain failed occasion and we put his performance at the same level as Karius.
It is not the first error. In the friendly against Switzerland also had a very serious mistake. Being so close in time-only a few weeks ago-it can be thought that he has a problem of trust, and as I said we do not have 38 games to regain confidence.
His performance in the last Euro, with another major failure against Croatia does not give him too much credibility or weight in the team to be irreplaceable.
I don´t know,we´ll find out soon. I wonder the same about Iniesta (who I think would contribute more by playing a bit at the end)
What about set pieces, isn't that all more reason he should be coming out and collecting more often?
What the feck is this shit?
It's a difficult one. How often should he be coming for set pieces without leaving himself exposed?
On the general point, I think VDS/Schmeichel would have struggled in some aspects if they had Jones and co in front of them. Until he gets a proper back four in front of him, I think the comparison is unfair.
It really was an awful mistake tonight. He barely puts a foot wrong for us, but it’s never quite clicked with Spain. It’s rather strange, I hope he goes on to have a great tournament.
Fair enough.
Just from an oppo perspective it use to frustrate the feck out of me facing VDS, i know you had Rio and Vidic but even when they were out his decision making was ridiculous. With DDG i feel we can get joy from set pieces and sometimes he positions himself weirdly, for example the late chance Morata had at Stamford Bridge last season he left half the goal empty at one point.
He's still a great keeper and second behind Neuer, but even factoring in playing in a lesser side than VDS i feel he has a couple of exploitable aspects whereas the Dutchman didn't really have any.
The clash with Pique was also a blunder. That could've been easily a goal out of nothing.
Dave made more mistakes for Spain in the past few weeks more than he made in his past 2-3 years with United. DDG hasn't proved he's among the greatest for his nation team. That's why I still rate Neuer higher, the guy doesn't make mistakes on regular basis and is always solid for Germany.
Not like I really care anyway, as long as DDG keeps doing god's work for us.
Dave made more mistakes for Spain in the past few weeks more than he made in his past 2-3 years with United. DDG hasn't proved he's among the greatest for his nation team. That's why I still rate Neuer higher, the guy doesn't make mistakes on regular basis and is always solid for Germany.
Not like I really care anyway, as long as DDG keeps doing god's work for us.
Hierro: “De Gea, you have to carry us like you carry ManUtd, CARRY US !!”
De Gea: “Carry us”
“Carry us”
“Carryus”
“Carius”
“Karius”
De Gea: “Carry us”
“Carry us”
“Carryus”
“Carius”
“Karius”
He played well for us and that's the only thing matter for me. 
Now he knows he will live in hell if he went back to Spain looking at how harsh Spain media is , meanwhile he is loved and considered a goat in Manchester. Stay forever Dave
Now he knows he will live in hell if he went back to Spain looking at how harsh Spain media is , meanwhile he is loved and considered a goat in Manchester. Stay forever DaveBased on international performances he’s nowhere near the best keeper in the world. This week’s errors aside he’s let in a bunch of soft goals for Spain.
Based on club performances he’s comfortably the best keeper in the world.
I’ll take that.
Based on club performances he’s comfortably the best keeper in the world.
I’ll take that.
I wouldn’t call it a meltdown, but this is his performance thread and he just had a horrible evening costing his team valuable points in the World Cup. It is natural to discuss that tonight, rather than saved points last season.
I feel bad for him, but I've seen that low down parry mistake from him before. He'll bounce back.
Comfortably? I would say there are many others who are at the same level. Oblak, Neuer, ter Stegen...
Music to my ears hearing he's doesn't like the way Spanish people support him. At United he's got nothing but immense praise and fully deserved and I hope he sees that we will always continue to do that
He could become a club legend here If he stayed but we need to start winning big trophies fast
He could become a club legend here If he stayed but we need to start winning big trophies fast
Similar with his Mata save, he probably needs a big moment with Spain. Think that would do him a world of good.
He is not as good as our hosts make him actually, nor his peers keep him in that regard, as per the latest accolades in the industry. Of course, it is an extremely unpopular opinion over here. Even more unpopular, because De Gea is actually untested at the highest level exactly because United are not contending at the very top since 2013, so he is not used to that kind of pressure anymore. That’s why the Spain shirt often seems too heavy to him maybe.
Both Neuer and De Gea have done this exact mistake before. One of the reasons why that we consider them the best two, is because they look -and are- confident when the make their saves. It's normal that they will make a mistake every now and then.
Let the spanish believe that he is shit and replace him with someone else. Better for us.
Let the spanish believe that he is shit and replace him with someone else. Better for us.
but he will not save it either. You just wumming because he didn't even try.
De Gea is the best club goalkeeper in the world and one of the worst on the national stage. What is this sorcery?
shhhhh...
Let the Wums type their shite. It's bloody entertaining.
Let the Wums type their shite. It's bloody entertaining.
He's routinely making saves against the best sides in the world!
Posts like these make no sense to me, its as if Utd aren't under ridiculous pressure and scrutiny this year and he's still voted the best keeper in the league.
No pressure he says..
People were discussing De Gea's penalty performance during the match today.
I looked it up here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/david-de-gea/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/59377
Overall, he has conceded from 32/43 penalties in his career. Which is what you'd expect an average GK to do.
But if you look closer, you'll notice that 7 of his saves came in 2011 or earlier. During the match today, people struggled to remember more than 3-4 penalty saves he's made, and this is why.
Since 2011, he has let in 20/24 penalties. That's 83.33%. Worse than the average GK (which is around 75% IIRC).
This is a bit strange, seeing as he is possibly the best shot stopper in the world. Maybe he should stop guessing, and try to just follow the ball...
I looked it up here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/david-de-gea/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/59377
Overall, he has conceded from 32/43 penalties in his career. Which is what you'd expect an average GK to do.
But if you look closer, you'll notice that 7 of his saves came in 2011 or earlier. During the match today, people struggled to remember more than 3-4 penalty saves he's made, and this is why.
Since 2011, he has let in 20/24 penalties. That's 83.33%. Worse than the average GK (which is around 75% IIRC).
This is a bit strange, seeing as he is possibly the best shot stopper in the world. Maybe he should stop guessing, and try to just follow the ball...
I hope DDG has an indifferent WC and tonight was a good start. A sensational WC for him and the Madrid interest just rears it’s head again. He’s brilliant for us and I couldn’t really care less what he does for Spain.
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