This is becoming debatable recently, though.
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He literally has the best save percentage of any keeper in the world. He is also outperforming his GA by a bigger margin than any keeper in the world meaning he's actually saving a lot of tough shots.
These Chelsea fans are funny coming on here with their Courtois angst. Probably change their tune when the Belgian leaves them.
The only mistake he made all game was the 2nd goal. I’m sure he puts his hand up and takes it on the chin like a man.
Penalties are a free pass as no Gk in the world are actually expected to save them, let alone against the best under pressure penalty taker in world football.
The free kick was exceptional and no keeper in the world would of got across and saved that, let alone Ronaldo to choose that side from his angle on the right side.
Some of the posters on here are serious WUMs or just completely away with the footballing fairies!
People seriously think Reina should replace DDG for the remaining group games!
Penalties are a free pass as no Gk in the world are actually expected to save them, let alone against the best under pressure penalty taker in world football.
The free kick was exceptional and no keeper in the world would of got across and saved that, let alone Ronaldo to choose that side from his angle on the right side.
Some of the posters on here are serious WUMs or just completely away with the footballing fairies!
People seriously think Reina should replace DDG for the remaining group games!
The only person that has brung Tibo's name up is you.
On Iniesta, think he should play off the left and I think Spain needs another player to give them penetration.
Spot on
That's why in all the votings by either journos and his peers he is never in any list except in those of the EPL. But somehow he is the undisputed best on here...
Spot on
That's why in all the votings by either journos and his peers he is never in any list except in those of the EPL. But somehow he is the undisputed best on here...
You're forgetting he let a bad goal in v Italy two years ago.The only mistake he made all game was the 2nd goal. I’m sure he puts his hand up and takes it on the chin like a man.
Penalties are a free pass as no Gk in the world are actually expected to save them, let alone against the best under pressure penalty taker in world football.
The free kick was exceptional and no keeper in the world would of got across and saved that, let alone Ronaldo to choose that side from his angle on the right side.
Some of the posters on here are serious WUMs or just completely away with the footballing fairies!
People seriously think Reina should replace DDG for the remaining group games!
That inconsistent son of a bitch.
Hodor? Hodor.
Actually, GKs are expected to save at least 1/5 pens.The only mistake he made all game was the 2nd goal. I’m sure he puts his hand up and takes it on the chin like a man.
Penalties are a free pass as no Gk in the world are actually expected to save them, let alone against the best under pressure penalty taker in world football.
The free kick was exceptional and no keeper in the world would of got across and saved that, let alone Ronaldo to choose that side from his angle on the right side.
Some of the posters on here are serious WUMs or just completely away with the footballing fairies!
People seriously think Reina should replace DDG for the remaining group games!
Did you come up with this?He had a really bad game and just seems really nervous.
The 2nd goal was bad as was him getting stranded at the edge of the penalty and colliding with Pique. That could've easily led to another goal.
Hopefully that'll convince Madrid to look elsewhere. Dave will be fine once he's wearing our shirt again
The 2nd goal was bad as was him getting stranded at the edge of the penalty and colliding with Pique. That could've easily led to another goal.
Hopefully that'll convince Madrid to look elsewhere. Dave will be fine once he's wearing our shirt again
His positioning was correct for the FK an the wall height was set up correctly, the shot was just quality.
He was only one step to the right of center when the shot was struck, that’s about as central as a GK can be. The shot was taken with a curve that moved the ball back into the frame of the goal. It started outside the goal frame. It was a great free kick.
I take it you are not a GK and have not played at anything approaching a serious level.
Against Lukaku in the FA Cup semi, also to his right. Against Everton in a PL match, another save to his right.
Still the best GK on earth, one mistake in about 3 years doesn't change that.
It's so funny how suddenly he has become average when just one month ago same critics were saying without de gea United will be shit. Everyone should make up their mind. Yes he made a huge mistake, but it happens, even the best make mistakes. To judge his quality after that one mistake is very immature call.
I still love him.
Bad one poor mistake, 2nd goal.
Btw, De Gea coming off his line to cut down Ronaldo's angle when CR made that late bursting run, that was something new of our gk.
Btw, De Gea coming off his line to cut down Ronaldo's angle when CR made that late bursting run, that was something new of our gk.
Yeah, he's an average penalty stopper. Hoping he'll improve this poor aspect of his game but...People were discussing De Gea's penalty performance during the match today.
I looked it up here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/david-de-gea/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/59377
Overall, he has conceded from 32/43 penalties in his career. Which is what you'd expect an average GK to do.
But if you look closer, you'll notice that 7 of his saves came in 2011 or earlier. During the match today, people struggled to remember more than 3-4 penalty saves he's made, and this is why.
Since 2011, he has let in 20/24 penalties. That's 83.33%. Worse than the average GK (which is around 75% IIRC).
This is a bit strange, seeing as he is possibly the best shot stopper in the world. Maybe he should stop guessing, and try to just follow the ball...
Man, it was just one game. Are we going to make this invalidate everything that he has done for us in the past 4 years. That sevilla game, the ball was directed towards him at an awkward angle. And he was never the reason we lost that game. That was JM fecking up a side that put a good performance against 'pool. And After that, at least to me, every game felt meaningless and i just checked live scores and updates because the season felt flat.
And I don't hold pens against him because it was apparent that he was not that good of a penalty saver. Everyone will save lukaku's pen because he always hits that left post corner. But I don't hold that against him because he is good in so many areas. I mean Coutinho would have had a goal everytime against us if not for big dave. I don't know neuer's stats but I would be surprised if he had saved a lot of pens over the last few years.
And I don't think that the spain's euro squad was that much in 2016. I mean they went out to an italy side that iirc,was not expected to make an impact in the competition. So idk how this narrative came about that dave performed badly when the whole team stank the place anyway. Unless dave was expected to both save and score, i don't get the criticism of him. Maybe they could have given him a chance in the 2014 world cup, because he had come into his own in the 2013-2014 season, instead of sticking with an over the hill iker casillas conceding 5 in the first game against the dutch. I remember reading somewhere that he was even booed in the bernabeu during the 2013-2014 season. And this was casillas. So it was not his fault that del bosque was sentimental. He should have seen the warning signs.
And while I know that he is the not the usual dave in a spain shirt, I think this was just one of those days where it is just not your night. I mean ronaldo flopped in the champions league finals. He came back strongly today. And I am pretty sure dave will come back too. And while i am not blind to his faults like his distribution and unwillingness to come out and collect the ball, he has been so steady these past few years with the constant change everywhere around him that I just can't bring myself to criticise him. This game has still not changed my perception and I don't what juventus and chelsea fans coming here and saying he is overrated and he is not top three and on the same level as oblak and allyson. I mean seriously, oblak plays under a more defensive coach than mourinho( i mean did anyone even watch their semis against arsenal?) and allyson has had a good year,that it. I can accept making a case for neuer being better than him and dave needing to have a good world cup this year, but come on? oblak and allyson? You are just clutching at straws now.
If he fell of a cliff like rooney, then maybe this overreaction is justified. But 2-3 mistakes in a season? I think that's acceptable when he is worth atleast 10 points every year.
And I don't hold pens against him because it was apparent that he was not that good of a penalty saver. Everyone will save lukaku's pen because he always hits that left post corner. But I don't hold that against him because he is good in so many areas. I mean Coutinho would have had a goal everytime against us if not for big dave. I don't know neuer's stats but I would be surprised if he had saved a lot of pens over the last few years.
And I don't think that the spain's euro squad was that much in 2016. I mean they went out to an italy side that iirc,was not expected to make an impact in the competition. So idk how this narrative came about that dave performed badly when the whole team stank the place anyway. Unless dave was expected to both save and score, i don't get the criticism of him. Maybe they could have given him a chance in the 2014 world cup, because he had come into his own in the 2013-2014 season, instead of sticking with an over the hill iker casillas conceding 5 in the first game against the dutch. I remember reading somewhere that he was even booed in the bernabeu during the 2013-2014 season. And this was casillas. So it was not his fault that del bosque was sentimental. He should have seen the warning signs.
And while I know that he is the not the usual dave in a spain shirt, I think this was just one of those days where it is just not your night. I mean ronaldo flopped in the champions league finals. He came back strongly today. And I am pretty sure dave will come back too. And while i am not blind to his faults like his distribution and unwillingness to come out and collect the ball, he has been so steady these past few years with the constant change everywhere around him that I just can't bring myself to criticise him. This game has still not changed my perception and I don't what juventus and chelsea fans coming here and saying he is overrated and he is not top three and on the same level as oblak and allyson. I mean seriously, oblak plays under a more defensive coach than mourinho( i mean did anyone even watch their semis against arsenal?) and allyson has had a good year,that it. I can accept making a case for neuer being better than him and dave needing to have a good world cup this year, but come on? oblak and allyson? You are just clutching at straws now.
If he fell of a cliff like rooney, then maybe this overreaction is justified. But 2-3 mistakes in a season? I think that's acceptable when he is worth atleast 10 points every year.
It sure is nice to see De Gea fed up with the Spanish press. That 5-year contract is hopefully signed soon!
Some of the posts are just facepalm worthy. Shitting on class player because of 1 mistake and citing his mistake some 3 years ago. Few opposition fans are getting desperate, few ManUtd fans are displaying their knee jerk best which is sort of usual.
An incredible keeper made a mistake. Meh, it happens.
Some people are such knee jerkers, you wonder how can they ever sit without an involuntary kick out.Worse than Oblak and Alisson, overrated. Redcafe at its best.
Are people actually saying De gea is an average keeper? Really? For the past 4 years he has been a superman for us.
He has literally been our best player for the past 4 years.
Although it's good to see that Spanish media and pundits are turning on him like snakes after last night, he will finally notice what a blunder it would be to move to Madrid, where the supporters didn't even appreciate their club legend cassilas.
Spain can go down the drain in the world cup for all I care.
I just hope He signs a long contract with us and finally say feck off to Madrid.
He has literally been our best player for the past 4 years.
Although it's good to see that Spanish media and pundits are turning on him like snakes after last night, he will finally notice what a blunder it would be to move to Madrid, where the supporters didn't even appreciate their club legend cassilas.
Spain can go down the drain in the world cup for all I care.
I just hope He signs a long contract with us and finally say feck off to Madrid.
The reason the Spanish press is up at him is because he has never displayed the type of performances for Spain that he has for United. He was poor at Euro 16, his first major competition with Spain, and was poor yesterday as well. Its not the same as it is for United where he has been a saviour for 4 seasons now.
lol. this thread. de gea is the best goalkeeper we've ever had. man has been the best in the world since about the start of 2016.
Not sure the defence he is playing behind is the issue. If you’re a proactive keeper who likes to dominate your box you will do it. You can see he’s not comfortable coming off his line even some times just to help a defender out to clear up a situation, never mind taking charge at set pieces and situations like that.
We know Dave is much much better than what he showed last night. The problem is, he seems so unsure of himself when he plays for Spain. Funnily, I have a feeling if he went to Madrid, he would have performed with the same anxiety.
I don't know if it's because he's surrounded by huge personalities like Ramos and Pique and feels intimidated, or because he waited a while to be Spain's No 1 and he's anxious to show his country how good he is etc.
All I know is there are things he needs to improve, and hopefully the GK coaches can convince him to do so. He got tetchy with Frans Hoek, and funnily, under Hoek is when he looked his absolute best in my humble opinion. It's a good thing to be great at what you do, but still have room to improve to become even better, which he does.
I hope he settles down for the rest of the tournament, and shows everyone what he's capable of.
I don't know if it's because he's surrounded by huge personalities like Ramos and Pique and feels intimidated, or because he waited a while to be Spain's No 1 and he's anxious to show his country how good he is etc.
All I know is there are things he needs to improve, and hopefully the GK coaches can convince him to do so. He got tetchy with Frans Hoek, and funnily, under Hoek is when he looked his absolute best in my humble opinion. It's a good thing to be great at what you do, but still have room to improve to become even better, which he does.
I hope he settles down for the rest of the tournament, and shows everyone what he's capable of.
Personally I'm delighted about the mistake. Certainly creates a nasty smell under the noses of Real Madrid. Hence they move on.....
Also saved one against Arsenal, think it was RVP? may have been in the 8-2 game.
Suits me fine. Long may it continue.
Hope Mourinho gave him a call after the game. Must be horrible to make a mistake like that at a stage like the world cup
Pretty sure Ramos elbows him just before that mistake. Id say it was concussion......
Well looks like he can't hack some pressure and has issues when his own nation is watching - how else would you explain his quite subpar performance so far for the Spanish national team?
The other explanation is that he's facing a lot of shots playing for his club, while he's relatively 'cold' playing for Spain.
I really don't want him getting benched or losing his starting spot permanently, can't imagine that won't affect any goalkeeper.
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